Pitt is over-rated....

[Chi_archie]

This team sucks...

let's see how much we can bump this as different teams get hot and cold...


over-rated teams...

UNC
Dukex3
pitt
syracuse
zaga
wake
ucla
N.D but people figured that out
Georgetown but people figured that out

un-related note... Prov is looking very good to make the dance now

[ryanXL977]

therefore the only good teams are

univ wash and clemson!

[Chi_archie]

lol...

also ok with blakers
uconn
msu
louisville


over rated teams are good.... they just aren't as good as teams "rate them"

top 10 teams are all very close, no one is head and shoulders above anyone

[ryanXL977]

i think these are just normal college kids
they arent gonna win every game, nobody does
i think the better thread would be

"no true number one this yr"

[Brock Landers]

how does providence not play like this more often, fukking pretenders

[SamsNCharge99]

every time #1 team falls, they are over rated????

[tullamore]

THe whole idea of the #1 team in the country is overrated. Who the hell cares which team is #1. You dont gain anything for being #1, I would think more coaches would prefer to not be #1.

[element1286]

every time #1 team falls, they are over rated????

Yes.

[Chi_archie]

THe whole idea of the #1 team in the country is overrated. Who the hell cares which team is #1. You dont gain anything for being #1, I would think more coaches would prefer to not be #1.

right, and I agree with Ryan...that has been my point...

going all the way back... UNC was given the crown this year from the beginning.... they are still a horrible horrible value at the books for ncaa championship odds...

when UNC's odds are a bit closer to the other top 10 teams... i'll say that aren't over-rated

this thread wasn't serious guys....

and none of the rankings matter....

I pointed out in a nother thread... the years that FL won it all

they got hot when the sec and big tourney's started..

one year they lost 4 out of 6 and 3 in a row in the last month of the season

another year they lost 2 out the last 3 or somthing...

all that matters is who is hot come tourney time.

[tullamore]

The #1 team only means something in college football.

[ryanXL977]

i dont see how they were given a crown. who gave it to them?

[frostno98]

Pitts not over rated, it's just one of those games. Thought Georgtown was going to do this to do Louisville yesterday, instead Providence took the bid for the upset. Senior nights upsets are very common.

[tullamore]

i dont see how they were given a crown. who gave it to them?

The national media.

[ryanXL977]

who pays attention to the national media? just watch the games. i dont watch talking heads, espn or otherwise, just games

[tullamore]

who pays attention to the national media? just watch the games. i dont watch talking heads, espn or otherwise, just games

So when you watch the games, do you have the tv on mute?

[Chi_archie]

the books

[ryanXL977]

So when you watch the games, do you have the tv on mute?

almost always

[Chi_archie]

pre-season odds at betonline

UNC 9/4
Duke 10/1
UCLA 12/1
MSU 20/1
uconn 20/1
louisville 20/1
pitt 25/1
georgetown 25/1
kansas 25/1
memphis 25/1



so pre-season you could put 100 on Uconn to win 225 ( I see even +200 still at justbet.com)

OR you could put just 10 on any of the bolded teams and be looking pretty good to collect a little above or below 225


wake was 50/1
marquette 40/1

by the way

[ryanXL977]

well then you can say the bookies set a nice line and that the public always goes with the big names (yanks, cowboys, unc, etc)

[Chi_archie]

then I guess the public over-rated unc...

thanks for making my point

[ryanXL977]

youre welcome
thats all i really wanted to do
it took us awhile but we got where you wanted to be

[Chi_archie]

you're pretty sharp Ry... so you can almost always assume that if I say a team is over-rated or under-rated... that I am not talking about where YOU rate them.... I will trust you have them pegged just about where they need to be.....

except...what's his face the old dodgers pitcher..... Lowe.... you over-rate him and under-rate dempster

lol

[ryanXL977]

i will cede to you in ncaa bball, hell, ill cede to your girl
i will never ever ever come off the belief, and its very easily proveable, that dempster is crap

besides, you know he is crap, youre a cubs fan

i may take the following teams to win their divisions:

rays
twins/ indians , not sure yet, leaning cleve, slightly, but it will be those two, not the others
cubs,. easy call
dbacks, praying they will be +250 or better
phillies win it bc mets suck ass.

[Chi_archie]

I am not a cubs fan.....I'm a long suffering pirates fan.... alway have been always will be

I would have taken Dempster's 08 over Lowe's 08

especially for road games...

full disclosure, I faded dempster quite a bit this year...I thought he was garbage.... I might start this year off fading him too...

but for the $ they get, and the ages, I'd take dempster for 09 if I had to.....

[ryanXL977]

ill take lowe anyday if salaries are equal


pirates may win 60 this yr, get ready to rock!

[Chi_archie]

I am predicting 56 wins...

no bay no nady....

pitchers will have figured out mclouth...

down grade at 3b.... everyone else is older...

pitching was their problem before the trade deadline though... I think at that point they were actually # 3 or 4 in hitting in the NL, but their pitching sucked sooo bad that it was irrelevant..

its possible that all the former prospects finally have a good year at the same time... but very unlikely

[ryanXL977]

they have no direction, nothing to build on, nada.
a bunch of pitchers that are not very good but we hear their names all the time

56 wins? jesus christ

[Chi_archie]

I have some hope for 2-3 years from now... McCutcheon, Tabata, Pedro Alvarez, McClouth, Doumit
maybe neil walker

but i've had hope like that for the last 15 years...so its tempered with alot of cyncism

[ryanXL977]

even if everyone of those guys pans out, which they probably wont, the cubs will just go buy some dudes and beat pitt. pitt probably has no money, how are their ticket sales? they are the worst team in the nl. i only bet them when they play the mets bc they are like +250 every time

[Chi_archie]

horrible attendance.... back when they planned to build PNC, park they thought they would be like the Indians when they built their new park.... increase revenue and have a good team....

Littlefield screwed that up, after 2 years the new park lost its allure and less and less fans come... the most knowledgeable fans have boy-cotted until the pirates stop putting a minor league team on one of the most picturesque baseball settings.

The owner's group (the nuttings) are the real prob, they won't authorize any spending

[ryanXL977]

littlefield, what a jackass. is the park worth visiting, is the city? ive never bee to pitt. been to philly though, as thats my fave mlb team. is pitt a nice town?

[Chi_archie]

PNC is absolutely georgeous... the city has very little IMO compared to other cities.... but it has various areas that are worth visiting if you are there... but nothing to make it worth traveling TO pittsburgh to visit

[ryanXL977]

what if my lady is a flight attendant hence i get free first class everywhere in the world, im trying to see all the ballparks, seen half so far. first class tix to japan , australia, london, italy, are normally like 10k. thats the best benefit ive ever had from a girl i dated.

[Slim]

Providence coach's name is Keno Davis. Hell of a first name.

[WhatAboutMeBitch]

ACC kills all other conferences. Nuff said