Interesting call from BetPhoenix

[Justin7]

I registered an account at BetPhoenix to look at their sign-up procedures, bonuses and rules. I got a call from marketing that went something like this:

BP: "I see you haven't posted up yet. We would like to offer you a bonus. Would you like 35%, or 15% + -105 lines on a 1k deposit?"

Me: "Before I sign up, I have a few questions."

BP: "Ask away"

Me: "I'm going to beat the hell out of you. I do this for a living. So I want to know how Phoenix terminates relationships with pro players."

BP: "Er..."

Me: "Let's say I deposit 1k, and in the first day, turn my freeplay and balance into 20k. I still have a ton of rollover to meet. What do you do with me?"

BP: "We let you bet through your rollover. We might lower your limits, or close your account and pay you later, but we let you meet rollover - it's only fair.

Me: "That's a good way to handle it. You want me to send 1k?"

BP: "Er, no thank you. But thank you for your time"

the sales guy I spoke with was very professional, and I might have embellished a bit... but the gist is they will treat pros fairly on the way out. They're a rec book though, and don't want pros.

[Nicky Santoro]

i expected much more from this book.. i was so happy when they took over betmania. but now it's been over 1 month i am trying to withdraw 2k and the check is still NOT here. i keep getting the runaround. first they tell me it was sent, then it wasn't, then they must find it, now they found it and told me it was sent again and should be here by last week, which it is still not.. what a nightmare thus far for me with this book. i dont like the sound of this all. i've seen this game many times.. they took the 2k out of my acct balance 2 min after i made the request well over 1 month ago and still no money.

[smarmy]

That's awesome! Er, no thank you. Real nice.

[reno cool]

Funny thing is they believed you so easily. Are books running scared? I would expect them to say "sure you will buddy, give it a shot"......weird

[topgame85]

Betphoenix not as solid as they were made out to be the first 2months, falling apart

[007Fatty]

i bet at bet365.com
and its been good to me
i dont win thousands of dollars but ive cashed out 500 at times and ive got it in my account within 3 days.
very trustworthy site if you ask me.
and they got live betting which can screw you if you dontgot patience haha

[onthewhat]

Justin how many books welcome your action?

[pat venditto]

kill me now please.

[pat venditto]

bookmaker/thegreek/matchbook

[durito]

i ran up a reasonably sized roll there and they paid it all, no limit cuts, no bs -- the exact opposite of BetOnline. if they get this betot crap sorted out i will post back up.

[pavyracer]

"Let's say I deposit 1k, and in the first day, turn my freeplay and balance into 20k"

If you can do this then the 30k a year SBR is paying you is peanuts.

[BeatTheJerk]

Yeah I actually let that slide Pavy out of respect for Justin7, but since you mentioned it, lol yeah that was completely comical if it was directed in a realistic hypothetical way ...............

[Justin7]

"Let's say I deposit 1k, and in the first day, turn my freeplay and balance into 20k"

If you can do this then the 30k a year SBR is paying you is peanuts.

Classic bonus hustling. Deposit 1k, collect bonus. Blow account to 0. Repeat, collecting bonus without meeting earlier rollover. Repeat many times. Blow account up. Book finally recognizes the bets as sharp. How does book respond when they figure it out.

[blittydeuce]

"Let's say I deposit 1k, and in the first day, turn my freeplay and balance into 20k"

If you can do this then the 30k a year SBR is paying you is peanuts.

Justin said he embellished a bit. Also if he really was a sharp, its probably good to have some type of legitimate job. I doubt he works that hard or puts in a lot of hours at SBR anyways.

[pavyracer]

Sure...and you think the book doesn't have the means to find out what job Justin is doing if he can win 20k in a day. It's like saying P Diddy likes to sell records at a store for $8 an hour even though he owns the record label.

[fiveteamer]

boy, did Justin ever fukkin make it.

When guys ask me, "hey, fiveteamer, how do I make it?" My answer from henceforth will simply be "Justin7".

God bless.

[jjgold]

Phoenix is a small book for small players only

[Panic]

And you do this for a living?

[007Fatty]

i dont think i could do gambling for a living..
too many ups and downs
i like having a salary hah

[BeatTheJerk]

Classic bonus hustling. Deposit 1k, collect bonus. Blow account to 0. Repeat, collecting bonus without meeting earlier rollover. Repeat many times. Blow account up. Book finally recognizes the bets as sharp. How does book respond when they figure it out.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight all this in ONE day, Imagine what he could do in 7 days !

[pavyracer]

What are you going to do with the salary when you can win 20k every day? Use the Justin7 method. Martingale the $1,000 to $2,000 then $4,000 then $8,000 then $16,000 and you can make your bank get sick of you from the daily deposits. Then drive your 86 Toyota Tercel to SBR office to get your $2,000 monthly paycheck.

[Justin7]

What are you going to do with the salary when you can win 20k every day? Use the Justin7 method. Martingale the $1,000 to $2,000 then $4,000 then $8,000 then $16,000 and you can make your bank get sick of you from the daily deposits. Then drive your 86 Toyota Tercel to SBR office to get your $2,000 monthly paycheck.

Pretend you are making bets with 0% EV playing parlays. You'll blow out 15 times for each time you turn your balance into 20k.

There are perhaps two days a week with enough games to realistically do this (at least during NCAAB season). during NCAAF, maybe just 1 days, sometimes two.

If you did this twice a week, you'd make about 5k in equity after 4 months. This isn't caviar and Jaguars, but it's one of many, many tools at your disposal once you have a decent bankroll.

[AgainstAllOdds]

Pavy you are hating on Justin because to you, the possibility of making 20k a day is just a dream.

I would bet hes at least done it once or twice which would be more than you have won in your entire gambling career.

[durito]

Pavy you are hating on Justin because to you, the possibility of making 20k a day is just a dream.

I would bet hes at least done it once or twice which would be more than you have won in your entire gambling career.

I'd bet he's done it WAY more time than that.

[007Fatty]

im not gonna lie i wish i could do that.
the most ive ever made up to is 2500.
if i could make 20000 in a month from this i would be the happiest man alive
cuz its just 20000 for doing nothing lol

[pavyracer]

If Justin makes $20,000 in one a day SBR will lose him. Imagine Justin walking at Dozer's office the day after. Dozer asks him what did you do last night Justin? Well...I deposited my 2 week paycheck at BetPhoenix and grew my balance to $20,000 in a day. Wow...Dozer says. Does this mean you don't need your $30,000 a year job anymore? Hey guys...listen to this...Justin won $20,000 last night and he didn't even fukkin shared a pick with us.

[durito]

Pavy-

You are are a moron.

Love, Durito

[Casi]

Classic stuff, made me laugh thx Justin ^^

[AgainstAllOdds]

If Justin makes $20,000 in one a day SBR will lose him. Imagine Justin walking at Dozer's office the day after. Dozer asks him what did you do last night Justin? Well...I deposited my 2 week paycheck at BetPhoenix and grew my balance to $20,000 in a day. Wow...Dozer says. Does this mean you don't need your $30,000 a year job anymore? Hey guys...listen to this...Justin won $20,000 last night and he didn't even fukkin shared a pick with us.

Pavy, if this is the base of your argument...You are more stupid than I thought.

You should probably refrain from speaking on this subject so people dont see your true IQ is < 50

[BeatTheJerk]

Alright I'm just gonna shut my mouth and take notes, because this shit is going way over my head fast and I feel really dumb to sit here and read this thread only understanding about less than half of this hustle.

[pavyracer]

What a better arguement? How many guys you know that make $20,000 a day in gambling work 50 hours a week for $30,000 a year? I'm pretty sure Phil Ivey doesn't work at the reception of Motel 6 on the days he doesn't gamble.

[Matt Rain]

If Justin makes $20,000 in one a day SBR will lose him. Imagine Justin walking at Dozer's office the day after. Dozer asks him what did you do last night Justin? Well...I deposited my 2 week paycheck at BetPhoenix and grew my balance to $20,000 in a day. Wow...Dozer says. Does this mean you don't need your $30,000 a year job anymore? Hey guys...listen to this...Justin won $20,000 last night and he didn't even fukkin shared a pick with us.

What part of "You'll blow out 15 times for each time you turn your balance into 20k." sounded like Chinese to you?

Too much fumes from these racing lawnmowers, pavy.

[Justin7]

If Justin makes $20,000 in one a day SBR will lose him. Imagine Justin walking at Dozer's office the day after. Dozer asks him what did you do last night Justin? Well...I deposited my 2 week paycheck at BetPhoenix and grew my balance to $20,000 in a day. Wow...Dozer says. Does this mean you don't need your $30,000 a year job anymore? Hey guys...listen to this...Justin won $20,000 last night and he didn't even fukkin shared a pick with us.

Lol! I'm sure Dozer could repeat a few conversations we've had about my sporting plays.

[pavyracer]

$20,000 a day X 365 = $7,300,000

Why work for $30,000 a year resolving disputes when you can be a multi-millionaire? Keep quiet...don't post your picks at the forum you work...you don't want the lines to move not in your favor...sharps don't post picks at forums...

[donjuan]

$20,000 a day X 365 = $7,300,000

Why work for $30,000 a year resolving disputes when you can be a multi-millionaire? Keep quiet...don't post your picks at the forum you work...you don't want the lines to move not in your favor...sharps don't post picks at forums...

English not your first language?