Getting stiffed on SBR is @ 90%... yet posters continue to bet each other?

[daggerkobe]

I never understood the logic behind this.

Why bet with other posters when the chances of being stiffed is 50/50 at best? Is it because they are broke and want free shots? Is it because they are banned offshore? Is it because they are under 18?

Makes 0 sense to me why posters risk getting stiffed on SBR (Capitol of Stiffsville) when there are A+ offshore books with chances of being stiffed at .000001%. Plus they offer bonuses, free payouts and even pick up the ** tab when you fund.

Someone please explain this one to me.......

[onthewhat]

You don't understand the logic? It's quite simple...

I can bet without leaving house. I do not want to go to **, get random looks because I am sending 2 times to Juan Pueblo Rodriguez in Lima, Peru, and not have to call books and talk to them and give passwords, etc.

Back in Neteller days I would never do this. Now, I will

[daggerkobe]

Hmmmmm.... I can fund without leaving my home too, using a Check Card, gift card, ************* (accepts transfers from checking accounts) and Virtualpin (accepts credit cards).

Too risky to bet with online degenerates when they won't put up the funds first to prove they can pay. Just my opinion tho.

[SamsNCharge99]

onthewhat, IM me, if you want to make picks, i'm going to class now but will be free after 2 for the day

[Mudcat]

I think you are losing sight of the big picture. You could just as well ask, why post on a public forum like this at all?

Only a small percentage of us have an actual business purpose here. Most people just want friends and attention and want to interact with other human beings.

Betting is something folks like us do with each other so it is pretty natural that people would want to do it in a little community like this. The reasons? I dunno. Fun. Competition. Just filling the hours of your life.

But I agree that people repeatedly show bad judgement in who they trust. I have been around forums for awhile and have seen some mind-boggling things. Not to point fingers at tsoprano but trusting a shill for a penny-ante credit shop was a pretty bad call.

But the main focus should be on the STIFF. STIFFing is against the very principles this site was founded on. It is unacceptable. It is a real shame this forum has been taken over to such a large extent by non-gamblers who have no clue what this site and betting are about.

[daggerkobe]

I guess it could be for fun.... but getting stiffed is never fun. So why engage in an activity that produces 90% stiffing?

I mean you got stiffs like Patty that refuses to pay up and ignores that person for close to a year, over $100. Then there are stiffs like Dac, who creates a ghost account (RIPmyson) to take free shots, then stiffs and no longer logs in with that name.

These P2P betting never end well..... just creates hostility between posters and their allies, etc.

Not worth the risk IMO. Unless they got some issues with offshore and this is their only outlet for betting.

[ryanXL977]

dagger, make small bets with people that they can pay. and bet with people you know have money

i have been stiffed on here, and i have been paid. like on the what said, no **, no banks, much harder to lose big money when im doing 22 bucks a game with people as opposed to 2500 a game, with money i cant see, on the internet

when i got to vegas, its hard for me to bet 1k bc i see the cash, when i do it online, its very very easy

but thats besides the pt
bet with posters who aitn going anywher

[daggerkobe]

But how do you know someone will pay when they lose? There's no stiff meter next to their names.

I mean Richkas was a respected poster to many and no one thought he would stiff.... well, the part where he's living in a mobile park with his mom might've been a clue.

I just think most here are just free shot takers and have no intention of paying when they lose, but will cry foul when they win and get stiffed.

[ryanXL977]

i guess you have to trust them the first time
it sounds like you arent comfortable doing it, so i would tell you not to do it. i personally wouldnt stiff you, and i know of many others who wouldnt stiff you. but if you dont like betting with people here, dont do it

one rule is this, unless youre very trusting, dont bet with anyone who hasnt been here a while, and who isnt an obvious scumbag/drug user/ alcoholic.

im not saying they are bad people, but if they have other big problems, you getting paid is low on the list.

[sickler]

But how do you know someone will pay when they lose? There's no stiff meter next to their names.

I mean Richkas was a respected poster to many and no one thought he would stiff.... well, the part where he's living in a mobile park with his mom might've been a clue.

I just think most here are just free shot takers and have no intention of paying when they lose, but will cry foul when they win and get stiffed.

If you remember the early days of creditwagering, Richkas got in debt with them and gloated about how he was going to stiff them. Pretty much said "fuk 'em".

Do people here not remember?

[jjgold]

The majority of guys that do this are action junkies with low bankrolls. I would avoid it

[ryanXL977]

i cant speak for anyone else here, but i find it hard to believe that anyone cant pay off 25 dollar bets. i used to bet 2k a game, and i would guess some others still do. i think a certain celts fan still does, he is also a yanks fan which i think is ****ed up

anyhow, just use your head
if you dont want to do it, dont do it

dont bet with jrichshow or milfdriller, they will both steal your money and not pay when they lose

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Patty owed 100 for a year so not everyone can pay that 25 off lol

[daggerkobe]

You say you do it to keep from betting over your head making $22 bets but didn't you bet someone $2500 or something close?

I mean you could fund that offshore and instantly get 20% bonus, so you'd be ahead $500 just for doing nothing. Why risk getting stiffed when you win.... unless you had no intentions to pay when you lose.

[daggerkobe]

If you remember the early days of creditwagering, Richkas got in debt with them and gloated about how he was going to stiff them. Pretty much said "fuk 'em".

Do people here not remember?

I don't remember that at all. Is it really true?

I just see him promoting CW all the time. Did they forgive his debt if he would become their spokesperson?

[ryanXL977]

You say you do it to keep from betting over your head making $22 bets but didn't you bet someone $2500 or something close?

I mean you could fund that offshore and instantly get 20% bonus, so you'd be ahead $500 just for doing nothing. Why risk getting stiffed when you win.... unless you had no intentions to pay when you lose.

up until maybe november, i was betting between 500-2500 a game
and you can go read the threa pimike made up if you want to know what happened. i paid an sbr poster 2500 bucks, and then he stiffed someone else, told them it was bc i didnt pay. but he ran off, i didnt, and if its that important to you, i can copy and paste my bkmkr.com transfer of 2500. i think i am about the only person on here, with a few exceptions perhaps, that would pay an internet poster theyve never met, 2500 without even knowing if he would have paid me. so i guess i would be someone you would want to bet with, as opposed to guys who dont pay. i cant keep addressing this same question dude, trolls want to make shit up about me, fine, but i paid the guy 2500 bucks so i cant really take any shit on this subject. go ahead and make fun of my jacket or the fact i dont support the iraq war if you like, but i keep my word.

[sickler]

I don't remember that at all. Is it really true?

I just see him promoting CW all the time. Did they forgive his debt if he would become their spokesperson?

Yes, it's true. Then did an about face.

My guess is they forgave the debt (plus offered free credit to continue playing) for a glowing mention in his videos, which he was doing a lot of back then.

[daggerkobe]

up until maybe november, i was betting between 500-2500 a game
and you can go read the threa pimike made up if you want to know what happened. i paid an sbr poster 2500 bucks, and then he stiffed someone else, told them it was bc i didnt pay. but he ran off, i didnt, and if its that important to you, i can copy and paste my bkmkr.com transfer of 2500. i think i am about the only person on here, with a few exceptions perhaps, that would pay an internet poster theyve never met, 2500 without even knowing if he would have paid me. so i guess i would be someone you would want to bet with, as opposed to guys who dont pay. i cant keep addressing this same question dude, trolls want to make shit up about me, fine, but i paid the guy 2500 bucks so i cant really take any shit on this subject. go ahead and make fun of my jacket or the fact i dont support the iraq war if you like, but i keep my word.

Whether you stiffed or not is between you and the other poster.... I don't really care. I only brought it up cause you said P2P keeps you from betting over your head but it certainly didn't stop you from going over 110X your limit.

You could have just funded offshore and gotten a free $500 bet out of it at least. But anyways, if you guys get a thrill out of betting each other and worrying if the other guy will stiff or not, then be my guest. It's just one of those things I will never understand, I guess.

[G's pks]

There should be stiff vs stiff paypal contest!

[daggerkobe]

patty vs. Dac capoff.... who will stiff:

pat -5000
Dac -5000

[G's pks]

Or bullshit$er vs bullshit$er Zboiz vs ?????

Z now claims after losing 50 units last week,,,betting 4 at a time! That he is now even and up $200 after a 3-1 day yesterday!

[G's pks]

Yesterday, 09:32 PM #3 (permalink) ZBOIZ
SBR Hall of Famer



Join Date: 06-22-08
Posts: 6,851




I had a bad week nut came out with plus money this weekend!!! So I got it all back plus 200

[daggerkobe]

[daggerkobe]

ZBOIZ = Brandon Lang

[G's pks]

ZBOIZ = Brandon Lang

records about the same in basketball...

z 2-14 last week 3 winning days this year Lang...very close...

[MBENZ]

90% of the ones stiffing can't post up off shore for lack of funds,so a site like this or any other is prime fishing for these freerollers,the other 10% don't give a rats ass and have no integrity.Kobe is right,there is no logical reason to bet with posters,it's a losing proposition.

[flyingillini]

I have been offered to bet with 4 different posters in the last 4 days. I have no interest in betting with posters, it makes no sense. I can bet the games at the book I use, hassle free... I don't care who it is I have no interest betting with a foreign name on a forum that I have no clue who it is.

[pat venditto]

ryan8lx877 you were not rolled to bet 2k a game.

[SBR Lou]

It is both illogical and wasteful to bet with other posters. Furthermore, any solicitations, aired out through the forum itself or via PM, encouraging other posters to engage in betting, will result in loss of PM's and possible account restriction.

Please refer to this FAQ guideline.

[jjgold]

These kids are so dumb

Most paypal bettors lucky to have $50 to their name

[unknown Gambler]

I think you are losing sight of the big picture. You could just as well ask, why post on a public forum like this at all?

Only a small percentage of us have an actual business purpose here. Most people just want friends and attention and want to interact with other human beings.

Betting is something folks like us do with each other so it is pretty natural that people would want to do it in a little community like this. The reasons? I dunno. Fun. Competition. Just filling the hours of your life.

But I agree that people repeatedly show bad judgement in who they trust. I have been around forums for awhile and have seen some mind-boggling things. Not to point fingers at tsoprano but trusting a shill for a penny-ante credit shop was a pretty bad call.

But the main focus should be on the STIFF. STIFFing is against the very principles this site was founded on. It is unacceptable. It is a real shame this forum has been taken over to such a large extent by non-gamblers who have no clue what this site and betting are about.

yet after reading a few threads on the richkas-tsporono situation very few includung yourself were on tsporanos ass for betting with this guy and admittingly betting with 5 other posters, everyone seemed to let his poor judgement be overshadowed by the fact that he was stiffed.

[JBC77]

It's a personal choice I guess, which is fine. Just don't like when people come out here and cry extensively about it.

[Shortstop]

It's a personal choice I guess, which is fine. Just don't like when people come out here and cry extensively about it.

Amen.

Or worse yet, start threads about it.

[purecarnagge]

I have been offered to bet with 4 different posters in the last 4 days. I have no interest in betting with posters, it makes no sense. I can bet the games at the book I use, hassle free... I don't care who it is I have no interest betting with a foreign name on a forum that I have no clue who it is.

I'm so kicking your ass in football this year. Hawks spread to win.

[Tsoprano]

Not to point fingers at tsoprano but trusting a shill for a penny-ante credit shop was a pretty bad call.

True, but $300 came out of it.