Unc over-rated?

[Chi_archie]

or did Maryland just pull one out of their ass....

lots of ACC upsets lately?

if OK, takes care of biznes are they number 1 come monday? or maybe Pitt?

[ryanXL977]

road game vs a very very very good home team

i dont understand why everyone rips unc

do they have to win every single game by 20 to be considered good? they dominate the best conference in the world every single year

they **** duke in the ass every time they play. what do they need to do to be properly rated?

[unde0087]

they shot lights out and hit 11 three pointers in the second half, you do the math

[TPowell]

UNC is overrated.....started this around 3 months ago. Glad to see somebody else start something like this

[unde0087]

at least UNC didn't lose to tough teams like W Kentucky and UNLV on their home floor, if we are talking overrated look no further than Ville

[tullamore]

UNC plays no D, they are like the Phoenix suns, wont make the final four.

[ryanXL977]

unc is a mile better than ul
its not close
how ius unc overrated? where should they be rated?

[TPowell]

unc is a mile better than ul
its not close
how ius unc overrated? where should they be rated?

why don't you look at thing since conference play has started. Do non-conference games mean anything? Louisville's losses came against UConn and Notre Dame. Wins AT Syracuse, AT Nova, and against Pitt are all great wins. I'd rather for UL play UNC than UConn by a long shot. That should tell you what you need to know. Louisville is no worse than UNC, PROVE ME WRONG and don't give me bullshit from 3 months ago

[TPowell]

at least UNC didn't lose to tough teams like W Kentucky and UNLV on their home floor, if we are talking overrated look no further than Ville

how about you turn your clock to February and catch up on the times pal. UNC is a ****ing joke, they're not better than Wake and that says a lot since Wake hardly ever shows up to play.

[ryanXL977]

i can only prove you wrong come tourney time
i am sure you know ncaa bball about 10x better than me, im an mlb guy and nba guy, but you are also a mega BE homer and they can do no wrong, though i still love you and always wil. i do respect your opinion,. BE may be the winner this yr, but ul aint CLOSE to unc to me.

any team that loses to ND by 30 aint top tier, thats my logic
maryland is better than cuse and nova

[TPowell]

Ryan, you must have bias as well. Maryland isn't even better than Notre Dame or Georgetown lol. Alright question pal.


DID I NOT SAY THAT UNC WOULD STAY THE SAME AND OTHER TEAMS WOULD IMPROVE, NAMELY LOUISVILLE?

[ryanXL977]

i have no bias, i am from dallas and grew up liking UT. i have no team in ncaa other than UT. thats it. but i see year after year the acc wins it and unc does the job and UL does not, pitt does not, nd does not

uconn is the only legit BE team year in and year out

[ryanXL977]

first of all, unc is better than wake. they are better than duke

clemson is better than anyone in the BE but uconn, and maybe pitt

you live in kentucky, you think ul uk is a bigger rivalry than unc duke so how can i debate this shit. i aint no ncaa expert but every year unc is bad ass.

[TPowell]

alright I'm done ryan, your shit is just so out in the left field that I can't continue arguing

[tullamore]

Clemson is not that good, they had tons of chances to beat VT last week and lost. Their bigs play no interior defense, VT kept getting layup after layup. If I could get some good odds, I would consider betting no acc team makes the final four. I think Uconn and Pitt are better than any acc team. Louisville is solid, but I worry about them making mental mistakes, they seem to be content on jacking of 3's all day at times, they can cause big mismatches with their size and athleticism

[Chi_archie]

I think UNC was over-rated preseason and early season, when everyone said it was a lay-up for them to win it all....

I think they are still slightly over-rated and one of the top 5 most public teams in college hoops..... I can't like a team that has as bad of a defense as UNC

[unde0087]

UNC plays no D, they are like the Phoenix suns, wont make the final four.

i heard that a couple years ago when UNC cut the nets down, the worst finish in the last several years is Elite 8, so next excuse please

[ryanXL977]

other than uconn, the big east is a conference of losers

unc aint overrated, period

[Chi_archie]

all i'm saying is that UNC is not head and shoulders above the rest like everyone said... they can be very vulernable..... if they had Defense maybe they would be worth the hype...

they are in the mix with the top 5-6 teams in the nation.... they could be #1, but its very close with the top teams right now....

if you took UNC preseason or early season, or even now as a future to win it all, I think it would have been a bad bet...at those odds

[ryanXL977]

gimme your one pick to win it all archi
ill take unc, you can have anyone. even money lets do it. 50 bones. one or other must win it all to win bet

[Fiasco]

no.

[TPowell]

Ryan, I might make a bet with you that UNC won't even make the Final 4. I wanna see the bracket first

[tullamore]

It all depends how you define overrated. Before the season most people just assumed UNC would win the whole thing. They still might, but there 6 or 7 teams that I feel have just as good of a shot at the title. UNC so far has not lived up to their preseason hype. I bring up their defense because I not sure they can get big defensive stops when they have too, its hard to just all of sudden start being a defensive team come March.

The other thing I think Roy Williams is a piss poor in game coach. That team in 2005 was extremely talented, but look at his performance against Georgetown in 2007, Williams has his faults, he can recruit, but his teams have looked confused in big games in the past, both at Kansas and UNC.

[ryanXL977]

im not saying that tp
im saying i will take unc to win it all, you take whoever you want, pitt, uconn, ul , whoever
chances are that unc wont, but they make the elite 8 every yr, and nobody else does

how can they be overrated when they do what nobody else does? why do they have to play defense to be the best? teams win all the time without defense. im not a unc fan, i like underdogs, i like the phils, twins, rangers, tribe, rays. i like the warriors, okc, bobcats, raptors

i dont do frontrunners, but i dont see how this team is overrated when all they do is win

[TPowell]

did they win against Wake or Maryland?

[Chi_archie]

gimme your one pick to win it all archi
ill take unc, you can have anyone. even money lets do it. 50 bones. one or other must win it all to win bet

why would I take even money with you, when I could place about 5 bucks each on OK, Pitt, and Uconn for instance and if one of them wins... I'd win 50 or more

I'll think about some terms

[tullamore]

These future bets, hardly have much value, you would better off betting Pit on the ML each game if you thought they would win the whole thing.

[ryanXL977]

bc you think unc is overrated, they arent even number 1, and lets be honest, i doubt they win it all

im just giving you a chance to back up your words. doesnt matter to me. i think they are the best. but the best team doesnt always win the tourney

didnt unlv. notre dame (by 30), MINNESOTA!!!<western kentucky (14), uconn (at home by 17) beat ul? ul iosnt in the conversation. id take memhpis over ul

[Chi_archie]

It all depends how you define overrated. Before the season most people just assumed UNC would win the whole thing. They still might, but there 6 or 7 teams that I feel have just as good of a shot at the title. UNC so far has not lived up to their preseason hype. I bring up their defense because I not sure they can get big defensive stops when they have too, its hard to just all of sudden start being a defensive team come March.

The other thing I think Roy Williams is a piss poor in game coach. That team in 2005 was extremely talented, but look at his performance against Georgetown in 2007, Williams has his faults, he can recruit, but his teams have looked confused in big games in the past, both at Kansas and UNC.

this is basically all i'm saying.... no doubt they are good...but as soon as hansborough said he was coming back everyone handed them the 2008-9 ncaa title... I think you will still find them at 3:1 odds to win the title now... which i think is ridiculous when OKlahoma you can get 10:1 and other teams that could make a run like louisville, duke, marquette ect... you can get 22:1

Unc is not that much better then those teams...thus over-rated

[Chi_archie]

they CAN be number 1 and be #1 deservingly IMO opinion... right now Pittsburgh is #1 but none of that matters...

there are a handful of teams that will give UNC more then they can handle... UNC has too many holes, and not alot of ACC teams are strong in those areas...

[tullamore]

Will UNC even get a # 1 seed?

[ryanXL977]

ok, using that criteria, you are right, they are not deserving of 3:1. but then , duke should be 22:1. they arent very good. ul is better than duke however, but again, they shouldnt be much more than 22:!. nor should marquette bc none of those teams can handle unc or uconn, or pitt perhaps.
but i agree, they shouldnt be 3:1
they are however, a top 3 team

[unde0087]

how about you turn your clock to February and catch up on the times pal. UNC is a ****ing joke, they're not better than Wake and that says a lot since Wake hardly ever shows up to play.

they win 10 straight games, lose one game and somehow they are overrated

How many other teams in the last month have won 10 straight games?

Say what you want but every time they see Big East foes they have dominated them. This year, last year, whenever you want! There isnt a team in the Big East that has half the success UNC has the last 5 years in the tourney and there isn't a Big East team that has stayed within 10+ points of UNC in the last 2 years.

So what Powell? What can you say? Last time Ville thought they were good they got shipped home priority mail via Tarheel express. Overrated, give me a break, like I said go and ask Tom Izzo if he thinks UNC is overrated. He still probably pisses himself at night because of the nightmares.

[mmike032]

'08/09 UNC is to NCAAB as
08'/09 UGA is to NCAAF

[ryanXL977]

thats what i say also,unde

every time they lose, which is like once a month, they are suddenly overrated

why isnt duke overrated? they are horse shit. why isnt uconn for losing at home? why must unc iwn every game