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  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #1
    UCLA/Wash st.
    +13 seems like a lot for a team that slows it down alot...

    I like Wash St. first half alot here

    anyone on Ucla?
  • Iwinyourmoney
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-18-07
    • 18368

    #2
    Archie,
    UCLA avg. almost 20 ppg more offence but do allow 8 ppg more on the D side. But with that being said, UCLA can explode and easily have the 13 covered by half if not more. I wouldnt touch this game
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63172

      #3
      they CAN explode.... but not many do against a Defense this good.....

      so I think that would be more unlikely
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      • R3Sports
        SBR MVP
        • 03-21-07
        • 3167

        #4
        I'm liking that as well Chi.
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        • Iwinyourmoney
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          • 04-18-07
          • 18368

          #5
          Archie, its not like Wast St defence is that great. 8 ppg avg difference is not much bro, if it was 18 I could see your case. A team 13-13 walking into UCLA as blow out written all over
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          • R3Sports
            SBR MVP
            • 03-21-07
            • 3167

            #6
            Scratch that, not playing it.
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            • Chi_archie
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #7
              Wash St. might have lost by more then 10... a handful of times this year...they keep it close

              they might not have been beaten by 14 this year except 1 or 2 times
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              • Chi_archie
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-22-08
                • 63172

                #8
                Wash St. doesn't play good defense IWIN? have you watched them this year? be honest?

                how did Ucla do last time against them?
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                • tullamore
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-17-07
                  • 3586

                  #9
                  Can Wash st score is the question, they may limit UCLA possessions but they struggle on offense.
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                  • Iwinyourmoney
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                    • 04-18-07
                    • 18368

                    #10
                    Chi, I have watched Wash St play once this year and have seen UCLA play 2-3 times. Wash St lost by 2 at home to UCLA, ok. LIke Tully said, defence is all fun and stuff, but you have to score also. UCLA will win by double digits guarenteed, but to me this game is a no play
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                    • Chi_archie
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-22-08
                      • 63172

                      #11
                      I've watched Wash st. alot, and I like their game, I like their coaching, and I like them in this game....

                      I'm a big Ben Howland fan too... but its hard not to like wash st +13.... they rarely allow opponents to get that far from them.... its not that teams might not be that much better...

                      but the way they play, you only have the amount of possessions of a 25 or 30 min game... so +13 is more like +17 or +18 translated into possessions

                      last game, UCLA shot lights out from three point land to win.... they weren't able to drive to the hoop or score down low very well

                      I'll take my chances with Ucla NOT shooting 60% from 3 point land again
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                      • TPowell
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                        • 02-21-08
                        • 18842

                        #12
                        I'm on UCLA. Making a play on every game today, but I agree that 13 does seem like a little too many
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                        • gummo
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-04-06
                          • 6297

                          #13
                          First half was a solid play.
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                          • Chi_archie
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-22-08
                            • 63172

                            #14
                            Originally posted by gummo
                            First half was a solid play.

                            scoring hasn't been a prob for wsu today... but their defense isn't what I expected...

                            still got to hold off UCLA from having a run still, lot of time left..


                            Ucla 2nd half might be an option here
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                            • gummo
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                              • 09-04-06
                              • 6297

                              #15
                              WSU is definitely racking up some fouls too. I don't see them hanging for long in the second half.
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                              • Chi_archie
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-22-08
                                • 63172

                                #16
                                I just need them to hang on for 2 mins... and then decide if I like the halftime line to get a nice middle

                                ucla's free throws are keeping them in the game
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                                • Chi_archie
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-22-08
                                  • 63172

                                  #17
                                  ucla -8...

                                  might take under 69, now way they keep shooting this good
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                                  • MilfDriller
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                                    • 11-23-08
                                    • 10186

                                    #18
                                    I think UCLA will absolutely kill them in the 2half. Could get ugly
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                                    • Chi_archie
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-22-08
                                      • 63172

                                      #19
                                      still a good game thus far....
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                                      • tullamore
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-17-07
                                        • 3586

                                        #20
                                        Ucla struggle to score
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                                        • Chi_archie
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-22-08
                                          • 63172

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by tullamore
                                          Ucla struggle to score

                                          There's that defense that IWIN couldn't see
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                                          • unde0087
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-27-08
                                            • 28969

                                            #22
                                            UCLA is a joke if they can't beat Wash St at home
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                                            • MilfDriller
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                                              • 11-23-08
                                              • 10186

                                              #23
                                              Ooops. I was dead wrong on this one. My bad.
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                                              • MilfDriller
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                                                • 11-23-08
                                                • 10186

                                                #24
                                                down by 7 with 350 to go

                                                UCLA going to lose
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                                                • Iwinyourmoney
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-18-07
                                                  • 18368

                                                  #25
                                                  Good call Archie! LIke I said it was a no play for me, but you were correct sir
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                                                  • tullamore
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-17-07
                                                    • 3586

                                                    #26
                                                    how do you miss that
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                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                      • 63172

                                                      #27
                                                      dang, shoulda taken the ML too... I actually thought about it, after seeing WSU only lost by 2 last time

                                                      oh well, maybe my balls will be big enough another time
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                                                      • tullamore
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-17-07
                                                        • 3586

                                                        #28
                                                        These last 3 minutes have been great to watch
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                                                        • BeatTheJerk
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 08-19-07
                                                          • 31794

                                                          #29
                                                          what was the ML for WSU ? anybody got an idea ............
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                                                          • ZXCVBNM
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-17-08
                                                            • 1027

                                                            #30
                                                            I had UCLA -13 and I thought they would actually pull it off early in the 2nd half when they got up 5.. but then the WSU coach called a timeout and they started their winning run.

                                                            AMAZING game had me on the edge for the last 10 minutes, talk about some crazy scrambles and clutch FT shooting.
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                                                            • tullamore
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-17-07
                                                              • 3586

                                                              #31
                                                              UCLA, seems to play more up tempo, Howland said his players wanted to play this style, but I dont think they are better with the change in style. UCLA the last few years has always been about defense.
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                                                              • Chi_archie
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-22-08
                                                                • 63172

                                                                #32
                                                                this style, is very different from howland's traditional style
                                                                Howland built Pitt, to who they are today
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                                                                • RogueScholar
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 02-05-07
                                                                  • 5082

                                                                  #33
                                                                  WSU ML closed at +800 at 5Dimes
                                                                  Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                                                  90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                                                  • tullamore
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-17-07
                                                                    • 3586

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                                    this style, is very different from howland's traditional style
                                                                    Howland built Pitt, to who they are today
                                                                    Howland seems to have had success with that style, 3 straight final fours, I wonder if he changed for recruiting purposes?
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                                                                    • BeatTheJerk
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-19-07
                                                                      • 31794

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by RogueScholar
                                                                      WSU ML closed at +800 at 5Dimes
                                                                      wow massive doggie hit here ............ unreal
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