This is a fact, and can not be disputed.

[2daBank]

So JAX +15 is the play?

no they arnt at home..one of those stupid london gms..

[DoYouNotGetIT]

no they arnt at home..one of those stupid london gms..

A team is going to be in London within the next decade. They are slowly integrating it.

[2daBank]

A team is going to be in London within the next decade. They are slowly integrating it.

i know it horrible,, by then they be up to 18 gm schedule as well.. as much as i love fb they are gonna ruin it with this bs,, hearing they considering a 2nd thu night gm as well, like 1 of those isnt garbage enough, there is such a thing as overkill. i guess on bright side prob be good bet to take the london team at home and fade them on road, lol..

[DoYouNotGetIT]

i know it horrible,, by then they be up to 18 gm schedule as well.. as much as i love fb they are gonna ruin it with this bs,, hearing they considering a 2nd thu night gm as well, like 1 of those isnt garbage enough, there is such a thing as overkill. i guess on bright side prob be good bet to take the london team at home and fade them on road, lol..

Think London team at home will be a easy bet because the time zone change is 4-7 hours forward, but London to US is 4-7 hours backwards so not a big deal for the London team.

If you have traveled gaining time (backwards) is so much easier than losing time (forwards).

[stevenash]

Think London team at home will be a easy bet because the time zone change is 4-7 hours forward, but London to US is 4-7 hours backwards so not a big deal for the London team.

If you have traveled gaining time (backwards) is so much easier than losing time (forwards).

But you would think the schedule makers would account for teams that travel to London.
For instance, Teams A and B play in London after a bye week on a Thursday, NFL Network gets to televise that game, and then are scheduled 10 days later on regular NFL Sunday. Something like that.

NFL is a business, a filthy, dirty, borderline criminal business, and a lot of the original owners almost a century ago founded this league on dirty money, so don't think this league is clean, it's not. My point being, if the league stands to make beau-coup cash by expanding to London, it will be done, book that. Right now the powers that be are trying the London experiment out to see if the ends justify the means.

To those who think the NFL will be ruined by this, think again.
We will all still be here, on these boards, betting all the games regardless if it's in Arizona, New York, Foxboro, London, Moscow, Cairo, Mars, or Saturn.

Hell, half you guys would bet the Martian Green Men over the Saturn Spacers getting 4.5 points on Saturn's home filed (the fourth ring) because you like the way the Martian QB throws in Saturn's gravity.

[2daBank]

But you would think the schedule makers would account for teams that travel to London.
For instance, Teams A and B play in London after a bye week on a Thursday, NFL Network gets to televise that game, and then are scheduled 10 days later on regular NFL Sunday. Something like that.

NFL is a business, a filthy, dirty, borderline criminal business, and a lot of the original owners almost a century ago founded this league on dirty money, so don't think this league is clean, it's not. My point being, if the league stands to make beau-coup cash by expanding to London, it will be done, book that. Right now the powers that be are trying the London experiment out to see if the ends justify the means.

To those who think the NFL will be ruined by this, think again.
We will all still be here, on these boards, betting all the games regardless if it's in Arizona, New York, Foxboro, London, Moscow, Cairo, Mars, or Saturn.

Hell, half you guys would bet the Martian Green Men over the Saturn Spacers getting 4.5 points on Saturn's home filed (the fourth ring) because you like the way the Martian QB throws in Saturn's gravity.

..you right, i still dont have to like it! and in general i never touch the london gms now cause it just adds to many outside factors i cant cap and this shit hard enough already..the whole 2 thu gms and 18 gm schedule would turn me off more than london team probably as that only 1 gm a week..all the changes they have made to shade everything to offense has already made me less of a fan but i still love it and tolerate it, just had to learn to start betting more overs than unders which sucked for a while as i was always good picking out the low scoring shitfest, but that has gotten much harder over the years..

[dmncnlou]

Problem is how are the rams going to score? They can't run the ball or stop the run. Fisher will be fired before the end of the season.

[2daBank]

Problem is how are the rams going to score? They can't run the ball or stop the run. Fisher will be fired before the end of the season.

no he wont be, they have actually been rushing pretty well since inserting stacy in the starting lineup..

[banger]

you have one problem, Pete Carroll is the opposition coach, this is the bloke who went for it on 4th and long when up 51-0 last year, has won his past 5 divisional matches by an average of 26pts.

Double Digit Dogs are good, on Sundays but on Monday Night they cover at just 40% since 1989, you think a good team isn't going to bring it on a Monday Night?

[stevenash]

you have one problem, Pete Carroll is the opposition coach, this is the bloke who went for it on 4th and long when up 51-0 last year, has won his past 5 divisional matches by an average of 26pts.

Double Digit Dogs are good, on Sundays but on Monday Night they cover at just 40% since 1989, you think a good team isn't going to bring it on a Monday Night?

You can fade me. It's all good.
And if you do, I wish you well regardless.

[ramones951]

Fadeeee

[banger]

You can fade me. It's all good.
And if you do, I wish you well regardless.

where did I say I'd fade? just brought up some stats for further discussion

[JMon]

28-104-0 (-10.22, 21.2%)

ATS: 75-53-4 (1.59, 58.6%)

I have this tracked since 1989, H and line>=10. Since 1989, this situation has lost money in 11 of 24 years. A lot of this attraction has come in the last few years, going 9-1 ATS since 2011. From 2002-10 it went 23-21-0 52.2% ATS. From 1989-2001 it went 43-31-4 58.1% ATS

gl on your bet.

[stevenash]

The information I got from oddshark is different.
Which database is that from?

[JMon]

The information I got from oddshark is different.
Which database is that from?

sportsdatabase, from what I understand they use neither opening or closing lines which may explain some discrepancy.

[JMon]

28-104-0 (-10.22, 21.2%)

ATS: 75-53-4 (1.59, 58.6%)

I have this tracked since 1989, H and line>=10. Since 1989, this situation has lost money in 11 of 24 years. A lot of this attraction has come in the last few years, going 9-1 ATS since 2011. From 2002-10 it went 23-21-0 52.2% ATS. From 1989-2001 it went 43-31-4 58.1% ATS

gl on your bet.

When back and looked at the run this situation is on, it's

ATS: 16-2-0 (6.83, 88.9%)

Since Dec. 6th 2009

Two losses coming from Car +12 v Balt (Nov. 21 2010) and Oak +10.5 v Den (Dec. 6, 2012)

[Big Bear]

Probably going to take the Seahawks.

stadium will be empty. Making this a neutral field.

[odog11]

2-4 on the list all covered. Seattle facing rookie QB and in good spot coming off Thursday night game. They really are a much, much better team in a lot of ways, with their defense and beast mode in full effect you probably can get a below average game from Wilson and Hawks still cover this. Really not a good spot for the Rams, but then again that's why line is right around 14. Throw in the Carroll factor and IMO bad spot to play the double digit home dog angle.

[thechaoz]

I will quote my post after the game. I normally agree with you, and in years past it's money.

NFL is strange this year with much less parody. I had my best year ever without much thought when I stopped being gun shy and just simple taking the better team. Giants v tb, niners v last four opponents, Denver Colts over, panthers v tb etc.

You will lose your ass on this bet. I know the NFC West inside and out. Rams are going to get destroyed and have no chance of covering. I smashed - 10.5 before Bradford got hurt. Please don't

[thechaoz]

The game is in London, though I am on the Jags at +17

Lol you deserved to lose that bet. Granted I'm I'm Homer but lol the jags

[Big Bear]

Problem is how are the rams going to score? They can't run the ball or stop the run. Fisher will be fired before the end of the season.

nah bruh,

the whole community loves Fisher.

He is not the problem. The offense is the problem

They need a bunch of pieces on offense

[eagle8999]

Over the longterm i would tend to agree but the jags rams and vikes have punch yourself in the face for picking them worthiness to them. i am a niners fan but can still be objective i was on them the two weeks prior to playing the jags.that line was simply to big. Seattle has a reason to play hard niners are keeping pressure on and pete don't mind blowing out teams.

[GunShard]

Messing around with SBR points on these teasers:

Ticket#:2248068 Oct 27 01:00 PM Oct 27 04:25 PM Oct 28 08:40 PM	Oct 22 01:53 AM	NFL NFL NFL	3 team teaser [218] NEW ORLEANS -6-110 (B+6) [226] DENVER -7-110 (B+6) [231] SEATTLE -4½-110 (B+6)	100.00 / 155.00
Ticket#:2248069 Oct 24 08:25 PM Oct 27 01:00 PM Oct 27 01:00 PM Oct 27 01:00 PM Oct 27 01:00 PM Oct 27 04:25 PM Oct 27 08:30 PM Oct 28 08:40 PM	Oct 22 01:55 AM	NFL NFL NFL NFL NFL NFL NFL NFL	8 team teaser [103] CAROLINA PK-110 (B+6) [209] SAN FRANCISCO -10½-110 (B+6) [216] KANSAS CITY -1-115 (B+6) [218] NEW ORLEANS -6-110 (B+6) [220] NEW ENGLAND -1EV (B+6) [226] DENVER -7-110 (B+6) [229] GREEN BAY -3½-110 (B+6) [231] SEATTLE -4½-110 (B+6)	100.00 / 1250.00
Ticket#:2248098 Oct 27 01:00 PM Oct 27 01:00 PM Oct 28 08:40 PM	Oct 22 03:55 AM	NFL NFL NFL	3 team teaser [209] SAN FRANCISCO -10½-110 (B+6) [218] NEW ORLEANS -6-110 (B+6) [231] SEATTLE -4½-110 (B+6)	100.00 / 155.00

[davidcsmith]

Thanks for the pick and the breakdown. Good job.