Sonny Gray is Pitching for the A's Thursday

BennyBigNuts · 10-09-13, 06:07 PM

Wow
what was the reason though?

Wulfman14 · 10-09-13, 06:08 PM

oh my

LT Profits · 10-09-13, 06:11 PM

Similar to Pirates logic for starting Cole? Gray dominated Tigers in Game 2

Brooklyn Dick · 10-09-13, 06:14 PM

Pinny Det-108 6 1/2

tatddy · 10-09-13, 06:15 PM

Bad move

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by tatddy

Bad move

Agree. Regardless of Colon's struggles vs. DET, I think you start the veteran.

I would've gone with Burnett tonight, too. Bring Cole and/or Gray in if trouble surfaces.

BennyBigNuts · 10-09-13, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Similar to Pirates logic for starting Cole? Gray dominated Tigers in Game 2

Colon had a bad first inning then dominated as well.
The move doesn't make much sense to me here, other than pissing Colon off if Oak gets past this round.
He's the guy who got you there.
Gray has been great, I like the kid.
But don't see a drastic upgrade sticking it in Colon in this spot.

LT Profits · 10-09-13, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick

Pinny Det-108 6 1/2

Originally posted by tatddy

Bad move

Pinny likes Gray better than Colon too. Tigers were -118 before change.

tatddy · 10-09-13, 06:18 PM

The logic is that Colon is more adaptable to coming in for relief. All hands on deck in elimination game.

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by tatddy

The logic is that Colon is more adaptable to coming in for relief. All hands on deck in elimination game.

As far as I can tell, Colon has made a grand total of four relief appearances in the last 15 years.

Deuce · 10-09-13, 06:22 PM

Who do the Tigers use for relief? Sanchez? Scherzer toast, Fister toast, Verlander on mound. Rest of the arms besides Smyly are useless.

Interesting.

tatddy · 10-09-13, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

As far as I can tell, Colon has made a grand total of four relief appearances in the last 15 years.

Didn't say it was my logic.

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Deuce

Who do the Tigers use for relief? Sanchez? Scherzer toast, Fister toast, Verlander on mound. Rest of the arms besides Smyly are useless.

Interesting.

I think this is JV's game, sink or swim.

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by tatddy

Didn't say it was my logic.

And you'll never see me saying Melvin is smart.

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Agree. Regardless of Colon's struggles vs. DET, I think you start the veteran.

I would've gone with Burnett tonight, too. Bring Cole and/or Gray in if trouble surfaces.

LoL at you would gone with Burnett

Louisvillekid1 · 10-09-13, 06:26 PM

I think the kid will pitch well, but the decision did stun me for a second

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

LoL at you would gone with Burnett

On a short leash, yeah, I would have. AJB is a mental midget, but he's been through the wars.

tatddy · 10-09-13, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

And you'll never see me saying Melvin is smart.

Melvin had earned the right to guide the ship without our judgement. Like it or not. Even though I don't agree wtf do I know.

Big Bear · 10-09-13, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Deuce

Who do the Tigers use for relief? Sanchez? Scherzer toast, Fister toast, Verlander on mound. Rest of the arms besides Smyly are useless.

Interesting.

either Verlander goes 9 or Detroit loses . simple as that

That's Bay Area baseball

LT Profits · 10-09-13, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Deuce

Who do the Tigers use for relief? Sanchez? Scherzer toast, Fister toast, Verlander on mound. Rest of the arms besides Smyly are useless.

Interesting.

I wonder if Scherzer can do one inning if necessary? Tuesday would have been his normal "throw" day if he was starting on Thursday.

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

I wonder if Scherzer can do one inning if necessary? Tuesday would have been his normal "throw" day if he was starting on Thursday.

I wouldn't mess with it.

I wasn't a fan of pitching Max yesterday either. Completely different mentality, starters vs. relievers. Not to mention it's not like he was being asked to pitch in long relief. They were basically using him as a set-up man. That's a lot of pressure for a guy who's never had to do that before.

LT Profits · 10-09-13, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

I wonder if Scherzer can do one inning if necessary? Tuesday would have been his normal "throw" day if he was starting on Thursday.

Scratch this, I just saw he threw 47 pitches. Probably too many to come back.

hankcream · 10-09-13, 06:32 PM

Good news for Tiger's & Over backers. Detroit's line-up is stacked with good veteran hitters that just faced Grey 5 days ago, they won't be fooled this time around.

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Scratch this, I just saw he threw 47 pitches. Probably too many to come back.

To say he wasn't sharp yesterday would be an understatement.

But again, starters can kind of ease into their appearances and work out kinks in the early innings. Scherzer often does this. As a reliever, you can't afford that luxury.

HOT WINGS · 10-09-13, 06:35 PM

Damn was hoping for fatboy. Oh well the kid it is I suppose. Least Tigers have seen him once now.

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by HOT WINGS

Damn was hoping for fatboy. Oh well the kid it is I suppose. Least Tigers have seen him once now.

Need Jackson to show up and set the table. By in large, he's been awful in this series. Torii too.

stevenash · 10-09-13, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Deuce

Who do the Tigers use for relief?

Nobody, JV goes 12 innings and 140 pitches if he has too.
It's his game

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Nobody, JV goes 12 innings and 140 pitches if he has too.
It's his game

This. Unless he's getting absolutely hammered, he's not coming out. This is one of the few times that pitch counts are irrelevant.

tatddy · 10-09-13, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

This. Unless he's getting absolutely hammered, he's not coming out. This is one of the few times that pitch counts are irrelevant.

Or if det is up 6-1 in the 8th

No coincidences · 10-09-13, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by tatddy

Or if det is up 6-1 in the 8th

Doubt it, to be honest.

bambiankles · 10-09-13, 06:44 PM

I woulda went with Colon personally and now A's line went to -102 on my book. Can't wait to watch this one tomorrow

2daBank · 10-09-13, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by hankcream

Good news for Tiger's & Over backers. Detroit's line-up is stacked with good veteran hitters that just faced Grey 5 days ago, they won't be fooled this time around.

oddly enough teams that have seen a rookie for the 1st time in a series actually hit them worse the 2nd time round..who woulda thunk it? maybe just cause lot of times the rookie nervous 1st g, i dunno but numbers much better for pitcher 2nd time in series after club has saw him once...

HOT WINGS · 10-09-13, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Need Jackson to show up and set the table. By in large, he's been awful in this series. Torii too.

Awful might be understatement but he did have one of the biggest hits in series game 4

Deuce · 10-09-13, 06:54 PM

Tigers struggling to hit period. Gray has nasty stuff.