do these people actually come to your house? even if u vouched for someone?? been harrassed since Monday by some gorilla who gt my cell number. told the guy hed have it this weekend from his client but he keeps harassing me.??
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dont know what that means. Im being serious, just thought id ask with u guys who have experience. Im smalltime offshore , dont usually deal with these people??Comment -
thanks or the input dipshitsComment -
Originally posted by colt29You asked the question and about 30 minutes later go and insult members of the board. Not a good move sir.Originally posted by colt29
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You're dead....you're soooo dead.
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They grease your ass up before they insert. You will be fine.Comment -
you vouched for him...now go hide..Comment -
if this is a local, then you're in trouble. offshore you're fineComment -
Probably just trying to scare you. Keep weapons around for self-defence, just in case.Comment -
bookies will NEVER lay a finger on you, trust me. they are only trying to scare you to pay. If a bookie ever laid his hand on you, they'd be in jail for a long time.. no way they take that chance over a debt. plus, i am very surprised they did this cause if they did this to someone and he told his wife/GF and she called the police, it'd be trouble for him. not worth it at all. once you use violence and police find out, it's over for the bookie and no way they take any chances..
when i was a bookie, we never got busted in 9 yrs, that was until one deadbeat didn't want to pay us 2400.. we then told him if he didn't pay, we'd break his legs, just to scare him.. that same night, he told his wife he's scared, wife called the cops right away, then our phones were tapped and 2 months later, busted.. had we not threatened the guy, we'd never have been busted.
bookies breaking legs is a myth.Comment -
Nicky has life experiences. Why do 18-22 year old turds here try to bust his balls?
I don't get it.
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Incorrect.bookies breaking legs is a myth.Comment -
bread is a crippleComment -
why even reply to this asswipe insulting everyone here like we are his bitchesComment -
wtf he's probably already face down in a vacant lot somewhere.
The lesson: Make sure you don't vouch for a squelching dirtbag.
But God Bless.Comment -
If he threatened you, I'd be slightly concerned. If he didn't, then you should probably make good as quickly as possible. People who are in the business of busting kneecaps don't talk about it. They do it.Comment -
bread, we can dream !Comment -
I have dealt with bookmakers that WILL hurt you if you do not pay. When I was working at a record shop in NYC, the owner got into a BIG hole betting with some NYC locals. One night the locals asked him to meet them in a shop in the Bronx that turned out to be a vacant warehouse. they proceeded to beat up HALF his body. I swear, if I hadn't seen it, I would not have believed it. It was bizzare. his left side of his body bruised, he walked into work a couple of days later with a cane! Not pretty! I have also had bookmakers tell me they won't beat you up, but they are not in the profession for "Hugs & Kisses" either. Take that as you want, but essentially, if you do not have the $$ to pay, set up a payment plan. At least you are showing good faith, and they won't hurt you.
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I would just call Tom Delay and say this guy was helping terrorists. Don't fukk with me bookies.
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Yea I don't know what Nicky's talking about.
Half the fun of gambling with a local is the rush of knowing that if you fk up, you could get your legs broken.
Maybe that's just me.Comment -
Comparable to drug dealing. Illegal business......sometimes debts are ignored or not paid on time. Tell me an addict without cash flow to pay for his habit has never been hurt. I personally know a guy (from my younger years, not friend but acquaintance from the hood) who was knifed to death because he didn't pay his drug debt.
Extreme situation, but money owed is money owed...Comment -
That's alright, Bread. Nicky doesn't know what he's talking about most of the time.Comment -
you guys are all living in the 50's in Vegas.. lol.
if someone owed you 2400$ and said to you, if anything happens to me, my wife knows who you are and i am going to cops letting them know who you are and if something happens to me, they are coming to you.. you think the bookie's guy will go break his legs for 50% of 2400?? yeah boys, you are living in a fantasy world. you guys watch too many movies..no way bookie risks 10 yrs in prison for 1200 bucks. forget about it.. they will try everything in their power to talk to him and either settle or come up with a fair payment plan..
boys, i know this stuff, and i know i'm right cause i've been in this situation many many many times.. i've been told to go fukk myself many times and that they are going to police right after we hang up, and we always tried to talk to him, and if it didn't work, we had no choice but to forget it.. that is how the real world deals, or you can be a nutcase and go try and break his legs for 1200 and go spend 8 yrs in the can, which would be dumb.. just not worth it.
once you hear police, you know it's time to back off.. that's how you get in trouble and get busted.Comment -
I just know that "some" people would never ever forget. And I mean never.
And they'll be seeing you one day. You might not see them, but they'll see you.
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I agree with you Nicky, for $2500, they won't do a damn thing. For more $$$ they might though.Comment -
Nicky isn't far off from my view, but the issue of not talking about it is also viable. If the guy is a beat down type, he'll have the work done w/out talking to you about it. Both sides are valid. Where I reside, it fits Nicky's opinion well, but I don't know a lot about books in big cities with millions of dollars. Relatively small timers around here in my parts.Comment -
another scenario is if the guy is a hot head and took a complete shot at the bookie and owed $8,000-32,000$ and said, you think i'm fukkin scared of you, i'm not.. go fukk yourself, i am not paying you a cent, what are you going to do about it??.. then they'd probably leave him alone for 5-8 months or so, let the whole saga fade away and then out of the blue, 2 guys might go give him a pounding of his life and leave him on the cement there in pain.. just to teach him a lesson and set an example, that's it..
but ONLY if that bum never mentioned the word, COPS.. if the bookie knew he was in contact with cops, they will let it go. they have no choice.. you can't fukk with the cops.. they are a bookie's worst enemy.Comment -
Nicky, valid points, but it would be naive to say it "never" happens. It only takes one angry nutbar to squash that theory.Comment -
And some bookies are smart enough to have hired muscle that do that work for them. Some bookies aren't pussies, Nicky. Just because you are, it doesn't mean everyone else doesn't make sure they collect. Hell, I know of bookies who would have the wife roughed up too and make sure she didn't say a word to the cops. If you had actually ever spent a minute in East LA, where you previously claimed to live, you might have a clue about these things.Originally posted by Nicky SantoroComment -
So easy to bury a bookie. Cash everywhere. All it would take is one call. Nicky is right.Comment -
Originally posted by fiveteamer
No, he's wrong to say it "never" happens.
Life isn't "always" hunky-dory like in this old tv show:
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Nicky is right. The bookie can threaten you and do nothing. Most of the time the runner will play nice guy and a higher up will play bad guy. It's all perception and intimidation. But now in 2009 if bookies want to be paid by a stiff it's best to set up a payment plan. Hurting the stiff is no way to get paid and every intelligent bookie will know that. It doesn't matter where you live only the small time that need the money to survive another week will actually cross the line and harm a client.Comment -
monkeyf0cker is calling nicky a pussy.
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