Manny Ramirez turns down an offer of 25 mil for one year. It would have made him the 2nd highest paid player in the league this year, only behind A-Rod. What a fvcking moron. The way the economy is, people losing their jobs left and right and this guy is turning down 25 mil. I hope he doesnt get another offer for the rest of the year. I hope he sits out for the year, his body gets old and when he tries to come back, he just doesnt have it anymore and no one gives him a shot.
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Is that true? Is that really, truly, honestly true?
That is fukked up. My brain can't even process news that fukked up.Comment -
His best frien Albert pooholes is lobbying to get the Cards to sign him. He said Manny would take a pay cut to play in Stlouis.Comment -
Irrelevant.Originally posted by PanicComment -
Not to me.Originally posted by rookieComment -
Idiot is looking for a 4-6 year deal at $25-$30 million per year. He's almost 37, no one is going to give him that many years. No one else but the Dodgers are looking to sign him so hope he gets low balled now or sits out the 2009 season.Comment -
Manny and his antichrist agent screwed up in my opinion by not finding a buyer very early in the FA season. He could've had a 2-year, $45 million deal already inked. I wouldn't shed a tear if he stepped off the curb and blew out his knee this week.Comment -
1 year / 25 mil...
damm..Comment -
He can play dominoes this season with another misunderstood guy on the sidelines--Bonds. Good money in that. After that, Walmart greeter is not far away.Comment -
Agreed.Originally posted by rookieComment -
Good move.
Would love to see him play with Pujols.
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Anyone who thinks the shape of the economy is totally irrelevant is ignoring some simple facts. Teams are seeing season ticket renewals drop off, and there's not a new TV contract cranking up to replace that money for them. Some teams, the Yankees for one, are fairly insulated from this. But many are not.
While I'm sure that teams are using the shape of the overall economy to pick up some leverage in negotiations, it's certainly not a complete fabrication. I think it was Kevin Towers, might be wrong about that, who noted that this would be a much better offseason to be seeking a new contract through arbitration than via free agency. Why? Because arbitration results are driven solely by previous contract amounts while general economy factors figure into free agent deals.Comment -
I can't blame anyone that wants more money. It's his prerogative. It could backfire on him as well but he's a grown ass man and makes his own bed to lay in. Sure $25mill sounds like a lot for one season but how about Cameron Diaz making $10 mill in one night doing the voice over in Shrek2. Everyone has their price. Many price themselves too low.
What are you worth??? Would you give someone your arm for a million dollars? What about your leg? How about your vision? How much for your cornea? What are you worth? The bigger question is what are you settling for? Just because you'll settle for less doesn't mean he should.Comment -
Willie, certain posters like to imagine that they are superior to others. You will always find the same ones ridiculing posts regardless what content it holds. It makes they feel smarter than the average bear.Originally posted by Willie BeeComment -
I agree, if he wants to hold out and go for more, that's his business. But in the case of Manny, the fact he has proven time and time again that he is NOT the consummate professional, he's got to be that "grown ass man" and understand and accept the criticism he and his agent are going to get.
As for voice actors, a good friend of mine has made a fortune being the voice behind animated figures. From small parts (like he had in Shrek), doing commercials and being the voice of Winnie the Pooh, he's logged a lot of hours. His paychecks seem like an ongodly amount of money to just talk in a microphone. But when you realize the hours he puts in BEFORE going into the studio, it comes into perspective. No, he's not pulling down the money they pay well-known stage and screen actors like Diaz, but suggesting she just walked into a studio for one night and did it, that's a misconception.Comment -
Seems to be a whole lot of sour grapes that Manny isn't an Astro in this thread.Comment -
LOL Lou, check under your desk for that mouse.Comment -
Manny is all green. No other color matters to him. The guy had 2 years left on his Boston contract at 20 mil/yr. They were single year deals-player option. And he was unhappy and made the Red Sox trade him because they wouldnt give him an extension. This guy has turned down money left and right. Dodgers are kinda stuck because they need him, but I hope they go out and sign a few other players like Abreu and leave Manny out in the cold.Comment -
Panic, Manny will get signed. I'm not sure he will end up with more than two years guaranteed at this point, but the baseball owners have proven time and again they can't help themselves.Comment -
I just saw where Bud Selig made $18.4 Million as commissioner. On second thought, Manny should be asking for $40 million.Comment -
I'd love to see Manny ask for $40 million
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The funny thing is the only team that can afford him right now is the Dodgers. If they decide to go grab 2 or 3 other players for the 25 mil they were gonna spend on Manny, he would be fvcked. I dont see any other team that would give him even a 2 year/45 mil contract right now.Originally posted by Willie BeeComment -
Manny not worth it
Go get young players for all that money
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Oh man, I hope this happens. Looks like the Dodgers may call Boras' bluff and sign others.
Now that Manny Ramirez has rejected the Los Angeles Dodgers' latest contract offer of one year and $25 million, the team is considering alternatives -- including further pursuit of ongoing negotiations with slugger Adam Dunn and second baseman Orlando Hudson.
Ramirez has now turned down three different proposals from the Dodgers: A two-year, $45 million proposal in November, to which agent Scott Boras never responded; an offer of arbitration; and the latest one-year, $25 million offer.
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The Dodgers budgeted money to re-sign Ramirez, as well as another veteran pitcher, and so they have about $30 million to spend. That kind of money will buy a whole lot of talent in the current free-agent market, with its depressed prices. According to a baseball source, the Dodgers "are considering a handful of directions."
One of those is a package proposal the Dodgers have discussed about Hudson and Dunn, who are represented by the same agency. Hudson, 31, batted .305 in 107 games for Arizona last season, and the 29-year-old Dunn has slammed at least 40 homers in five consecutive seasons. Those two players would probably cost the Dodgers less than Ramirez alone.
If the Dodgers sign others besides Ramirez, it's unclear where Ramirez could turn -- although the Giants have lingered in the bidding for Ramirez, perhaps to push up the price for their division rival in L.A., and perhaps to position themselves in case the negotiations for Ramirez break down for good.
As part of the Dodgers' discussions about Ramirez, there has been an internal debate about what might be an acceptable offer to the slugger, and what might anger him to the point that he might stop playing as hard as he did for L.A. in the final two months of last season. The Dodgers structured their most recent offer in an attempt to satisfy Ramirez's desire to be one of the highest-paid players in the game.
If the Dodgers sign Hudson and Dunn, there would be no such questions about effort.Comment -
The deal with the Giants is they're pretty well set in their outfield with Rowand, Winn and Lewis. Not that Manny's bat couldn't push Lewis aside in left, and his bat would be HUGE in their weak order. Just think that Dunn would be a better fit in San Fran since he could play first in place of Ishikawa. Dunn's not going to remind anyone of Keith Hernandez in terms of glove work at first, but he won't be a complete embarrassment either.
Someone will wind up giving Manny $50 million over two years, plus some big buyout on a third year option.Comment -
You're probably right, but i hope not.Originally posted by Willie BeeComment
