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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    Super Bowl prop bets you can still make today
    Every year, I bet my entire bankroll on Super Bowl props. You bet the good stuff early, and the "No" stuff late with whatever you have left.

    1 hour before game time, look for these props:
    "Will XXX score a TD?" Take the no. You can price these individually, but the value is almost always on the no.

    "Will the game go to overtime?" Take the no. Don't be afraid to lay -1400.

    "Will the game be won by exactly 3 points?" Take the no. -700, no problem!

    "Will xxxx happen?" Anything where you are laying -600 or more on the no probably has value. Price it yourself... But there will be so much value on big-juice items today, it's easy to safely spread your bank on it. If you're going to bet these bridge jumpers, MAKE SURE you spread them around. Don't bet more than 4% of your bank on any one play.
  • BeatTheJerk
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-19-07
    • 31794

    #2
    I don't know your a bright guy Justin7, but this sounds like a terrible idea to bet an entire bankroll on props regardless what the prices are, just my take.
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    • Panic
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-06-08
      • 10367

      #3
      I couldnt do that, Justin. I could never lay those kind of odds on that many prop bets. If one hits, you are fvcked. It will take all the money you won plus some. I know the probablity is highly in your favor to win, but lets take a look at the 3 point prop. The Patriots won all 3 of their Super bowls by exactly 3 points. Dangerous shit to do.
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      • Justin7
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-31-06
        • 8577

        #4
        Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
        I don't know your a bright guy Justin7, but this sounds like a terrible idea to bet an entire bankroll on props regardless what the prices are, just my take.
        I have over 100 unique bets before today. Some have a minimal correlation to the side/total, but it is well within "proper money management" risks.

        I think nearly every pro with access to Vegas numbers bets all available cash on props until they blow past 1-2 million.
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        • Panic
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-06-08
          • 10367

          #5
          And the Giants just won by 3 points last year.
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          • Justin7
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            • 07-31-06
            • 8577

            #6
            Originally posted by Panic
            And the Giants just won by 3 points last year.
            In this matchup, what do you make the fair price for the "3-point" prop?

            Public money hate laying heavy odds. Public money hates rooting for a boring game with no TDs. If you're drinking beer and watching the game, do you want to root for a 6-0 score? Or for everyone scoring like crazy?

            If the fair odds are -700 and I can get it at -600, I have a huge edge. My only problem at that point is limits, not risk management.
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            • patsfan2727
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-28-07
              • 579

              #7
              I don't get it, for every 6 bets you make, you have to hit 5 out of them just to break even? I also don't understand how there is value betting against something (win by 3 points) that has happened so frequently?
              the ONLY solid big chalk play that I see on the board today is Pitt +7.5 -750
              and I still wouldnt take it
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              • Panic
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-06-08
                • 10367

                #8
                Originally posted by Justin7
                In this matchup, what do you make the fair price for the "3-point" prop?

                Public money hate laying heavy odds. Public money hates rooting for a boring game with no TDs. If you're drinking beer and watching the game, do you want to root for a 6-0 score? Or for everyone scoring like crazy?

                If the fair odds are -700 and I can get it at -600, I have a huge edge. My only problem at that point is limits, not risk management.
                I'm with ya, but 4 outta of the last 7 Super Bowls have been decided by exactly 3 points so laying-700, or even -600, is not a bet I would make. Recent history has shown it is very possible and even more recently, very probable. Most players would agree Steelers ML/Cards +7 are the plays. So that tells me most players think the # will land between 1 and 6 for a Steeler victory. No way I take a prop at -700 that has one of those #'s.
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                • Panic
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-06-08
                  • 10367

                  #9
                  I would actually take the Yes on that prop bet for a huge dog hit.
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                  • Panic
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-06-08
                    • 10367

                    #10
                    Justin, you got any good player props you like?
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                    • Justin7
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-31-06
                      • 8577

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Panic
                      Justin, you got any good player props you like?
                      Will Fitzgerald score at least 2 TDs? No -300.
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                      • onthewhat
                        Restricted User
                        • 05-14-08
                        • 15411

                        #12
                        Justin what happens if you lost all of your tickets
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                        • Justin7
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-31-06
                          • 8577

                          #13
                          Originally posted by onthewhat
                          Justin what happens if you lost all of your tickets
                          I'd be broke! But I've never seen a game finish 106-103 in overtime where Arizona scored first, Roethlisberger had the first TD pass and there were no field goals.
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                          • Panic
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-06-08
                            • 10367

                            #14
                            What +money player props do you like?
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                            • Justin7
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-31-06
                              • 8577

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Panic
                              What +money player props do you like?
                              None.
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                              • Panic
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-06-08
                                • 10367

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Justin7
                                None.
                                So you're gonna bet - down the board. No dogs?
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                                • Justin7
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-31-06
                                  • 8577

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Justin7
                                  None.
                                  Wait, I did have one:

                                  Which QB will have the most TD passes?
                                  I took Roethlesberger at +115.
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                                  • Shortstop
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 01-02-09
                                    • 27281

                                    #18
                                    Justin, I like the prop that one team will score 3 consecutive times. You?
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                                    • smitch124
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-19-08
                                      • 12566

                                      #19
                                      109 Which Team will kick the Opening Kickoff
                                      Sun 2/1 6:10PM (EST)


                                      109 AFC Team -220
                                      110 NFC Team +170

                                      Justin, does Pittsburgh always defer and the Cardinals always accept the ball when winning the toss?
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                                      • Justin7
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-31-06
                                        • 8577

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by smitch124
                                        109 Which Team will kick the Opening Kickoff
                                        Sun 2/1 6:10PM (EST)


                                        109 AFC Team -220
                                        110 NFC Team +170

                                        Justin, does Pittsburgh always defer and the Cardinals always accept the ball when winning the toss?
                                        No idea. But the market seems to believe that.
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                                        • pokernut9999
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-25-07
                                          • 12757

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by smitch124
                                          109 Which Team will kick the Opening Kickoff
                                          Sun 2/1 6:10PM (EST)


                                          109 AFC Team -220
                                          110 NFC Team +170

                                          Justin, does Pittsburgh always defer and the Cardinals always accept the ball when winning the toss?

                                          Interesting point , but in the Superbowl the winner can not defer to the second half.

                                          The NFC has won the last 11 coin tosses and 28-14 overall , hence the funny odds.
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                                          • smitch124
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-19-08
                                            • 12566

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                            Interesting point , but in the Superbowl the winner can not defer to the second half.

                                            The NFC has won the last 11 coin tosses and 28-14 overall , hence the funny odds.
                                            Are you sure about that? Because if thats the case I would go very heavy on the +170...the coin (even the Super Bowl one) has no memory.
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                                            • pokernut9999
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-25-07
                                              • 12757

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by smitch124
                                              Are you sure about that? Because if thats the case I would go very heavy on the +170...the coin (even the Super Bowl one) has no memory.

                                              Just went back to read the article , I was wrong as this is the first year they are allowing teams to defer. Glad I went back and double checked. Sorry for the wrong info.
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                                              • smitch124
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 05-19-08
                                                • 12566

                                                #24
                                                No prob, I didn't bet it. Good luck today!
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                                                • flyingillini
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 12-06-06
                                                  • 41219

                                                  #25
                                                  What about this bet??
                                                  Will Larry Fitzgerald score at least 1 TD
                                                  Sun 2/1 3:20PM (PST)
                                                  187 Yes -125
                                                  188 No -105
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                                                  • VegasDave
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-03-07
                                                    • 8056

                                                    #26
                                                    Good Luck Justin.

                                                    I think its very funny that people only seem to see value in +odds. As you pointed out, if the true odds are at -700 and you get it at -600, its a great bet; win or lose.

                                                    If you listed 20 props all +500 or better, everyone would think that was cool, because "you only have to hit a few to win!", as opposed to laying chalk where "you only have to lose a few to lose!"

                                                    Value is value, and I love your logic too that the public will all be on +s. That makes perfect sense. Why would people that look at the game as a party/event be rooting AGAINST Fitzgerald scoring 2 TDs? More "fun" to bet the yes on these props and root him on. The pros that are looking at the game as a betting opportunity instead of a fun thing should indeed be getting good value.

                                                    Hope you come out a big winner Justin
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                                                    • patsfan2727
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-28-07
                                                      • 579

                                                      #27
                                                      he can't come out a big winner when he plays all 1:6 plays
                                                      !!!
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                                                      • BigDaddy
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 02-01-06
                                                        • 8378

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by patsfan2727
                                                        he can't come out a big winner when he plays all 1:6 plays
                                                        !!!
                                                        yes he can
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                                                        • Panic
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-06-08
                                                          • 10367

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by VegasDave
                                                          Good Luck Justin.

                                                          I think its very funny that people only seem to see value in +odds. As you pointed out, if the true odds are at -700 and you get it at -600, its a great bet; win or lose.

                                                          If you listed 20 props all +500 or better, everyone would think that was cool, because "you only have to hit a few to win!", as opposed to laying chalk where "you only have to lose a few to lose!"

                                                          Value is value, and I love your logic too that the public will all be on +s. That makes perfect sense. Why would people that look at the game as a party/event be rooting AGAINST Fitzgerald scoring 2 TDs? More "fun" to bet the yes on these props and root him on. The pros that are looking at the game as a betting opportunity instead of a fun thing should indeed be getting good value.

                                                          Hope you come out a big winner Justin
                                                          Dont think anyone was saying go only one way Dave, but Justin. Myself, I play both - and +. Really couldnt care less if I can get a -700# at -650. If I think its a loser, I dont play it. Case in point: I dont think the Cards can win today. If I could find them at +300, I still would not play them. Understand? I also dont make 200 plays a day. I may have had less than 50 plays for the month of Dec. To each his own. I know the # guys are making their money, but so am I. Who's system is wrong? If you both get where you want to be, who cares about the route.

                                                          And i know thier are #'s guys that live and die by the closing line and value. But I have never been that dependant on gambling to make or break my life, to the point where I bacame entralled with the numbers and studied every facet of the profession. To those that do it, I am in awe. Its amazing the way they can do that shit. I bet heavy few and far between. But my main source of living comes from other means.
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                                                          • flyingillini
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 41219

                                                            #30
                                                            Panic
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                                                            • durito
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-03-06
                                                              • 13173

                                                              #31
                                                              S. Holmes to have rush attp No -300
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                                                              • VegasDave
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-03-07
                                                                • 8056

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Panic
                                                                Dont think anyone was saying go only one way Dave, but Justin. Myself, I play both - and +. Really couldnt care less if I can get a -700# at -650. If I think its a loser, I dont play it. Case in point: I dont think the Cards can win today. If I could find them at +300, I still would not play them. Understand? I also dont make 200 plays a day. I may have had less than 50 plays for the month of Dec. To each his own. I know the # guys are making their money, but so am I. Who's system is wrong? If you both get where you want to be, who cares about the route.

                                                                And i know thier are #'s guys that live and die by the closing line and value. But I have never been that dependant on gambling to make or break my life, to the point where I bacame entralled with the numbers and studied every facet of the profession. To those that do it, I am in awe. Its amazing the way they can do that shit. I bet heavy few and far between. But my main source of living comes from other means.
                                                                I completely respect that; there isn't only one way to win at betting sports.

                                                                I'm not saying Justin is right and everyone else is wrong. I'm simply saying that even if you wouldn't lay the chalk, that doesn't mean there isn't value there. I was referring to posts like this one:

                                                                Originally posted by patsfan2727
                                                                I don't get it, for every 6 bets you make, you have to hit 5 out of them just to break even? I also don't understand how there is value betting against something (win by 3 points) that has happened so frequently?
                                                                the ONLY solid big chalk play that I see on the board today is Pitt +7.5 -750
                                                                and I still wouldnt take it
                                                                You see this all the time in tennis threads too and just about anywhere else that a bettor on this board decides to take -favorites. I was simply saying that there is too much emphasis on the number and not enough emphasis on the value of the number.
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                                                                • durito
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                                  • 13173

                                                                  #33
                                                                  There are props out there every week at -400 or so that should be -600 or more. That's an incredible edge. But, for whatever reason people won't bet them.

                                                                  Yesterday out there was D. West to make first FT -400. Guy shoots 90% from the FT line.
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                                                                  • Justin7
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                                    • 8577

                                                                    #34
                                                                    More free money (well, at least value)
                                                                    Blocked punts UND0.5 -1000
                                                                    Total missed FGs: UND1.0 -600 (tieing on the 1 is huge)
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                                                                    • G's pks
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 01-01-09
                                                                      • 22251

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I took Willie Parker to score a TD...YES -125 Just a fun bet... Steelers ml...

                                                                      Oh well lost the prop...but Pitt came through...
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