Is Steve Nash Washed Up??

smitch124 · 01-30-09, 07:19 PM

Defensively he is a horrible liability, may have little or no value these days.

tullamore · 01-30-09, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by smitch124

Defensively he is a horrible liability, may have little or no value these days.

He was never good defensively, but the style of play the last few years has to have taking a toll on him and with his age his better days are behind him. The Suns must be pissed they traded the Rondo pick to Boston. Rondo could of learned from Nash, and cut down on Nash's minutes.

flyingillini · 01-30-09, 07:24 PM

Speaking of washed up.....Do you wash up before or after you visit the Glory Hole?

BETTING_INSIDER · 01-30-09, 08:09 PM

Steve nash still has alot to offer the nba and iam sure if you ask the sun they would agree!!!

mmike032 · 01-30-09, 08:15 PM

JJ , never question our last great white hope son.
have a little pride

Sinister Cat · 01-30-09, 08:15 PM

I think he's still pretty good.. it's obvious some nights his back is bad. But overall, yeah, I'd say he's definitely on the decline.

mmike032 · 01-30-09, 08:19 PM

steve nash is the best thing that happened to the NBA since Pistol Pete Marovich

3PtShooter · 01-30-09, 08:37 PM

would have assist calore if with the cavs

purecarnagge · 01-30-09, 11:16 PM

Nah, Nash just doesn't thrive in that system. Get him in a system that is up and down and let him QB it all...he's good to go

mmike032 · 01-30-09, 11:18 PM

quit hating on our last hope fellas.
yea, hes past his prime but still.
who would you rather have on your team, Nash of Iverson

Tchocky · 01-31-09, 12:56 AM

He's one of my favorite players. I hate to see him wasting away in Phoenix. He should try to get traded.

mmike032 · 01-31-09, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by Tchocky

He's one of my favorite players. I hate to see him wasting away in Phoenix. He should try to get traded.

would be a perfect fit in Atlanta, they need to get rid of Bibby

mathdotcom · 01-31-09, 02:21 AM

Someone remind me how a 5'2 guy is supposed to play defense against Ming?

Dark Horse · 01-31-09, 01:53 PM

Nash is not washed up. Couple weeks ago I saw an article that his numbers are way down, but that they are almost exactly the same as for his Dallas time.

Nash needs an open floor to show his skills. The change to a slow and clogged up half court game, with everything going through Shaq, is really a show of disrespect -by Kerr and Porter -, for what two-time MVP Nash has accomplished in Phoenix.

And Terry Porter as a coach is a joke. Nash knows that. Shaq knows it. Both have implied it. Bell and Diaw were more vocal with their criticism and were traded. Nash understands the politics behind those trades and doesn't respect it.

This team is going nowhere now. When Nash and Shaq are gone, the Suns will be bottom dwellers, again. Destroyed by an over-ambitious managment (Sarver and Kerr), which didn't appreciate what it had. The demise really began with the change of ownership. All the players loved Colangelo. Sarver is widely perceived as a jerk.

jjgold · 01-31-09, 01:55 PM

Nash only won mvp's because he was white, he is no mvp. He does not do enough.

Panic · 01-31-09, 01:58 PM

I think Kerr knows he fvcked up but cant come out and admit it. He is lying in the bed he made. I think he also knows he should have never let Mike D go. Porter is horrible. If Mike D was still there, the Suns would have 30 wins right now. Mike D has nowhere near the talent in New York that the Suns have and yet they have 20 wins and only 5 back of Phoenix's 25 wins.

Dark Horse · 01-31-09, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Nash only won mvp's because he was white, he is no mvp. He does not do enough.

Pretty racist statement. So only black players should win?

If you had seen every Phoenix game in the seven-seconds-or-less years, you would have said he was the best to ever play the game.

It was showtime, like Magic and the Lakers. And sure, Nash is not great on defense; but his assists and high shooting percentage make up for it. The whole idea that the Suns weren't playing D in the D'Antoni years was bullsh*t. They just played way faster than everybody else. More possessions for both teams, higher scores.

Bottomline is that you don't need a refined and highly skilled point guard just to throw the ball to Shaq. That's a waste of Nash's talent. When D'Antoni left I wrote here than Nash might follow him to New York. That looks like a stronger possibility now. Nash has expressed interest in that scenario.

jerseykai · 01-31-09, 02:23 PM

since the begining of his career, steve nash always had the ability to play defense, it is just that he chooses not to do so. he sees taking charges as an easier way of pretending to play defense. i know about his back problems and i choose to say this. as a matter of fact, steve nash used to be my favorite point guard 3 years ago.i would definitely sell him because he does more good than bad. he has many turnovers, all of the games that the suns lose is mainly because of the fact that almost every decent guard, whether rookie or not has a 20+ game a night on steve.he has shown that he is not versatile enough to play in any other way than fast break. this is why chris paul is way better than him. he can play both up tempo and half court.at about 6'3, nash also Chooses not to set any rebounds. also, when his team are in close games against big teams, you can count on nash to choke and turnover the ball on a crucial possesion. also, when his team is down points, unlike deron williams and chris paul, he chooses not to score but to turnover the ball himself. NASH DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE A 2O PTS 10 AST GUY, HE JUST CHOOSES NOT TO DO IT. You can never count on him to get you back in a game from behind, he will just turn it over more. I AM A HUGE PHOENIX SUNS FAN, AND A HUGE NASH FAN. even i would LOVE TO SEE NASH GET THE HELL OFF THE TEAM. I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO SEE AMARE STOUDAMIRE GO WITH HIM.

jerseykai · 01-31-09, 02:24 PM

i meant to say more bad than good .

Panic · 01-31-09, 02:27 PM

Dont worry, Jersey. You will get your wish. Amare will be gone soon. Suns trying everything they can to unload him because they know he is going to walk anyway when his contract is up next year. If they can get ahigh caliber player in return I think they pull the trigger.

jerseykai · 01-31-09, 02:39 PM

i really hope they sell stoudamire also before the trade deadline.

Tsoprano · 01-31-09, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by mmike032

JJ , never question our last great white hope son.
have a little pride

king · 01-31-09, 05:29 PM

Suns will make it to the NBA finals this year. All thanks to Shaq, but Shaq won't be getting the mvp.

Tsoprano · 01-31-09, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by king

Suns will make it to the NBA finals this year. All thanks to Shaq, but Shaq won't be getting the mvp.

Are you fukking kidding me??

diogee · 02-08-09, 10:24 PM

21 assists so far on the night.

pimike · 02-08-09, 10:25 PM

No but Pistons are against 500 or better teams

Tsoprano · 02-08-09, 10:25 PM

No

j0hnnyv · 02-08-09, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by diogee

21 assists so far on the night.

ryanXL977 · 02-08-09, 10:31 PM

not even close to washed
they ahte their coach is all

R3Sports · 02-08-09, 10:37 PM

No.

Bill Dozer · 02-08-09, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by mmike032

would be a perfect fit in Atlanta, they need to get rid of Bibby

I would like to see that too. Nash thrives with a running team. It brings out his offensive talents and means he doesn't have to man up the other team in half court D.