obama, my new hero!

pavyracer · 01-29-09, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by wtf

he is in the face of the greedy dogs of wall street , demanding they return their shocking bonuses!

they are lucky to have jobs, and are so arrogant expect bonuses.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...9O0&refer=home

To contact the reporter on this story: Julianna Goldman in Washington at jgoldman6@bloomberg.net

Is she coach's sister?

therber2 · 01-29-09, 10:13 PM

Offering a bonus is shameful? An incentive to keep working? Do you think increased dividends to shareholders is "shameful"? This is nothing new. If a company wants to keep its quality employees and shareholders, they will do what is necessary!

slacker00 · 01-29-09, 10:37 PM

Obama is looking to be the populist president. The people are crying out about Wall Street and Obama is listening. This might be good or bad depending on whether you value democracy versus capitalism. Either way, he's a stark contrast to GWB.

ZBOIZ · 01-29-09, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by slacker00

Obama is looking to be the populist president. The people are crying out about Wall Street and Obama is listening. This might be good or bad depending on whether you value democracy versus capitalism. Either way, he's a stark contrast to GWB.

Don't doubt a man with a Harvard degree!

If anybody I can trust with this money sitution it is a man with a Harvard degree.

LAW DEGREE AT THAT

Igetp2s · 01-29-09, 11:45 PM

When will he be in the face of the greedy members of his own party? maybe he should demand they return all the campaign cash (bribes) they got from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, in order to keep them from being regulated?

Oh wait, he's one of the biggest recipients. Incredible hypocrisy.

RageWizard · 01-29-09, 11:49 PM

I hate to piss on your hero, but Wall Street is not in Obama's sights. The Fed guy is a former New York Fed and is from the same caliber of guys who systemattically screwed us and then said whoops we didn't know. All of these dudes are from Havard. Either Harvard turns out idiots, (don't bet on that) or they are hosing us down real good. Everything is going according to plan.

wtf · 01-30-09, 12:52 AM

funny you mention capatilism

in a true capatilist society you make your investment, you build a business, if it does not work out too fuking bad

these greedy fukin pigs made their bets and they LOST, too fuking bad

they dont deserve bonuses, if they goverment didnt bail them out they have to close shop, plain and simple

these guys are not running the post office, let them fail, they live like kings and lost their bets, now live like us

therber2 · 01-30-09, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by wtf

these greedy fukin pigs made their bets and they LOST, too fuking bad

they dont deserve bonuses, if they goverment didnt bail them out they have to close shop, plane and simple

these guys are not running the post office, let them fail, they live like kings and lost their bets, now live like us

What the fvck are you talking about? Who is "they"? If Obama wants to be up in Wall Street's face and save "people like us" he wouldn't do this lame bailout BS in the first place. Also to set an example he could go ahead and ditch that punk who doesn't know how to do his taxes, but is supposed to save us and judge us. Who do these people think they are?

There is opportunity for everyone in the market, especially now. Yes, some people got greedy in the past few years in the market, and they paid for it straight out of their pockets. You make stupid gambles, you lose. "Plane" and simple. As for people who capitalize on fool's blunder, and get a slap on the wrist from some kid...well, I can tell you right now none of them give a damn.

As for that Harvard thing, other guy...I really hope you're kidding.

durito · 01-30-09, 03:13 PM

wtf wishes he could get a wall street bonus

brooks85 · 01-31-09, 03:26 AM

I was about to write a little write up on obama, then it turned it two paragraphs, no need for all that. Bottom line, president's rarely ever made a difference, and nowadays rarely ever will. The election system is a fraud from day one it was set up. Called the Electoral College. The president is just a facade. A puppet.

wtf · 01-31-09, 03:35 AM

I did not know he said he would get rid of earmarks, which surprises me for a democrat as they have to pander to so many special interests groups.

I think obama is trying to learn from first depression where money supply was actually decreased, he just taking the opposite tact.

durito, yes i worked on wall street in my younger years and our bonuses were tied to the banks performance (jp morgan) if we didnt do well, very skinny bonus. dont think you are ever qualified to be employed on wall street, except selling hot dogs on the corner.

whatever you say he has the balls to get in their face, and do something about it. i dont know if mccain would have done similar, i would smell a back room deal to pander to those slime.

i truly dont understand the harvard connection, like they all have a secret handshake and cabal that meets monthly.

brooks85 · 01-31-09, 03:39 AM

YA right MCCAIN>?? a back deal door. NO one in his party even likes him for that main reason. He doesn't do it. But you have to have friends for bills to pass. So their will always be extra weight, always.

mathdotcom · 01-31-09, 03:50 AM

you can't blame companies for asking for govt assistance, even if they don't need it.

When you see money on trees, you take it.

Blame the government for giving free handouts, not business for taking them.

wtf · 01-31-09, 03:55 AM

yes math, your right

imagine for a moment if the government did not bail these guys out

all of the new businesses that would have emerged

then there really would be CHANGE

brooks85 · 01-31-09, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by wtf

yes math, your right

imagine for a moment if the government did not bail these guys out

all of the new businesses that would have emerged

then there really would be CHANGE

I agree but now its too late. Too, many things rely on other things. It is like a big game of Jenga our government is. You remove one block, you have to watch out for the rest. I believe its 1/10 jobs in this country are directly related to the auto business. So, there is no way we could let those dick heads fail, though they deserve too.

pico · 01-31-09, 05:21 AM

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/115299-i-just-thought-about-something-fundamentally-wrong-business-capitalistic-sys.html

wtf · 01-31-09, 05:32 AM

those one in ten jobs related to auto industry is very very questionable at best

all that will happen is someone will start producing cars people want, the gaps will be filled

yes there will be pain, but will end quickly, i really think these bail outs are prolonging the agony IMHO

fearless · 01-31-09, 06:23 AM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

Don't doubt a man with a Harvard degree!

If anybody I can trust with this money sitution it is a man with a Harvard degree.

LAW DEGREE AT THAT

George Bush has a degree from Harvard Business School? It's true, look it up.

EBSB52 · 02-01-09, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by therber2

Offering a bonus is shameful? An incentive to keep working? Do you think increased dividends to shareholders is "shameful"? This is nothing new. If a company wants to keep its quality employees and shareholders, they will do what is necessary!

And if they wanted to scratch backs of their cronies they would too. I think you're virtually alone on this one and I'm not speaking of members here, but in general, probably 10% of the country agrees with you. What else is new, most of what you drip out here is extremist nonsense.

EBSB52 · 02-01-09, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by slacker00

Obama is looking to be the populist president. The people are crying out about Wall Street and Obama is listening. This might be good or bad depending on whether you value democracy versus capitalism. Either way, he's a stark contrast to GWB.

Why not just stay logged in as therber2, you have 24 minutes apart here.

How is this Democracy versus capitalism? One doesn't affect the other:

- Democracy is a system of electing representatives

- Capitalism is a system where the market controls the measn of production (the elite control the market).

When you bailout greedy, irresponsible ***********, you have the right to predicate their use of that money. Do you disagree?

wtf · 02-01-09, 12:22 AM

When you bailout greedy, irresponsible ***********, you have the right to predicate their use of that money. Do you disagree?

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we have a winner

EBSB52 · 02-01-09, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by therber2

What the fvck are you talking about? Who is "they"? If Obama wants to be up in Wall Street's face and save "people like us" he wouldn't do this lame bailout BS in the first place. Also to set an example he could go ahead and ditch that punk who doesn't know how to do his taxes, but is supposed to save us and judge us. Who do these people think they are?

There is opportunity for everyone in the market, especially now. Yes, some people got greedy in the past few years in the market, and they paid for it straight out of their pockets. You make stupid gambles, you lose. "Plane" and simple. As for people who capitalize on fool's blunder, and get a slap on the wrist from some kid...well, I can tell you right now none of them give a damn.

As for that Harvard thing, other guy...I really hope you're kidding.

Hey Slacker, idiot, your preseident started the bailout and issued the first 350B.

EBSB52 · 02-01-09, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

I was about to write a little write up on obama, then it turned it two paragraphs, no need for all that. Bottom line, president's rarely ever made a difference, and nowadays rarely ever will. The election system is a fraud from day one it was set up. Called the Electoral College. The president is just a facade. A puppet.

So Obama undoing Bush's labor fvckings was just a figment of my imagination? Hmmmmm......

EBSB52 · 02-01-09, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by mathdotcom

you can't blame companies for asking for govt assistance, even if they don't need it.

When you see money on trees, you take it.

Blame the government for giving free handouts, not business for taking them.

Agreed.

Willie Bee · 02-01-09, 04:25 PM

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pimike · 02-01-09, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

Realizing it is often very difficult, indeed impossible at times, for political debates NOT to turn personal, nonetheless the petty name-calling and back-&-forth pissing matches are not the signs of lively and passionate debate between adults. Let's try and remember that in the future, and as far as what may or may not have happened on another board, it's of no concern to me. My job is on this board, period.

jjgold · 02-01-09, 06:07 PM

Obama is openly rooting for Pitt, he has ties with the Rooney's

He was pretty good on tv tonight