Any hidden gems out there? I love Bookmaker but their lines are off so much my account gets zero'ed out and moved to 5Dimes or BetJamaica.
Any other recommendations?
Mudcat
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07-21-05
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#2
My top three:
Matchbook
Pinnacle
ABC Islands
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InTheHole
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04-28-08
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#3
2.Questions regarding lines
1. How close are ABC's to 5 dimes?
2. How liquid are Matchbook's and has their platform become stable?
Matchbook and ABC are possibilities. I am recreational in my approach (and lazy when it comes to getting -121 over -120) but will put 150-300 (occasionally 600/800) on 6-8 games daily.
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Casperwaits
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08-25-06
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I wish Pinnacle was still available to Americans. I use BetJamaica and this year I will scope out BetPhoenix.
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Mudcat
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#5
Originally posted by InTheHole
2.Questions regarding lines
1. How close are ABC's to 5 dimes?
2. How liquid are Matchbook's and has their platform become stable?
Matchbook and ABC are possibilities. I am recreational in my approach (and lazy when it comes to getting -121 over -120) but will put 150-300 (occasionally 600/800) on 6-8 games daily.
Question 1: I find ABC to have more opinionated lines than 5 Dimes. I mean, everyone's lines are somewhat close to to each other these days, but for a line shopper, ABC is less vanilla. But if you are lazy about line shopping as you say and you wouldn't be affected by ABC's higher limits, then it really wouldn't make much difference.
Question 2: Matchbook has great liquidity on baseball. As you get close to gametime, straddles frequently close to 1 cent with healthy dollars available on both sides. They reduce commissions to 1%. For a sharp line shopper, you can have a few other strategic outs and have almost juice-free betting for baseball. The opportunities are so great, I almost feel like I'm cheating by playing there.
I have no reservations about the platform but technical problems are possible. I can't remember the last time they had them but it would be silly to say they can never happen.
Overnights are another story. 5 Dimes has traditionally been good for those. Of course we can never be sure that books are going to continue to do what they've done in the past so this discussion is very speculative anyway.
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InTheHole
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04-28-08
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Thank you very much Mudcat...great information!
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onlooker
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08-10-05
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Las Vegas Hilton, Sams Town, Sunset Station, Green Valley Ranch, Boulder Station, Arizona Charlies East, Eastside Canary, and numerous Leroy outlets.
Also some wagers with 5dimes since I have some money in there, when I can't make a local book.
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unit1884
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06-11-08
938
#8
I destroyed 5dimes overnight lines last year, easy as pie baby
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tullamore
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07-17-07
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#9
Combo of betjm, 5dimes, matchbook.
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jjgold
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07-20-05
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#10
Rebatewager
5 Dimes
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InTheHole
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04-28-08
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#11
Rebatewager?
Tell me JJGold, how were there lines last season?
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Mudcat
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#12
Originally posted by InTheHole
Any hidden gems out there? I love Bookmaker but their lines are off so much my account gets zero'ed out and moved to 5Dimes or BetJamaica.
Any other recommendations?
FWIW, while Bookmaker has gone with the 20 cent ML's on baseball in recent seasons, sister book DSI has had dime lines. They break on the low side but they have some opinionation.
If they follow that same pattern this year, DSI is not a bad place for bases in my estimation.
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LT Profits
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10-27-06
90963
#13
5 Dimes for overnights, DSI and WSEX for gameday
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Iwinyourmoney
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04-18-07
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#14
CW.com ONLY, when the line is right. Ready for my underdog betting strat this year again
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InTheHole
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04-28-08
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IWIN...with all do respect I remember that strategy clearly
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Iwinyourmoney
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04-18-07
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#16
Originally posted by InTheHole
IWIN...with all do respect I remember that strategy clearly
And I made a LOT of money on it.
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LT Profits
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#17
Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
CW.com ONLY, when the line is right. Ready for my underdog betting strat this year again
Their lines have gotten a lot sharper though, so I'm sure they will tighten up MLB too.
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flyingillini
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12-06-06
41219
#18
I only use Heritage for everything.
המוסד
המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים
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TodaysAction
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08-01-08
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#19
[quote=InTheHole;1441643]Any hidden gems out there? I love Bookmaker but their lines are off so much my account gets zero'ed out and moved to 5Dimes or BetJamaica.
One that has not been mentioned yet that I've used the last few seasons is SKY. Haven't had any issues with them. Get in , get out, business as usual and paid in a timely fashion. BOl this season.
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RogueScholar
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02-05-07
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#20
Very similar to LT, I play the overnights at 5Dimes (my primary out for most sports), and do line shopping amongst Matchbook and BetJamaica on gameday. I also always have funds in WSEX for their run line and total parlays within the same game, pick your spots and those are a goldmine.
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90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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Mudcat
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Originally posted by TodaysAction
One that has not been mentioned yet that I've used the last few seasons is SKY.
Good call. Skybook had startlingly good lines on MLB last season. I say startling because for years they were known as the ultimate vanilla book, always moving in lockstep with Pinnacle, almost never with the best line on either side of anything.
But no shit, they were really good last MLB season. 2K limits.
WSEX is another good call. They have lower juice (7 cents) than pinny for those games right around a pick 'em. Some opinionation too. 2.5K limits. A must have IMO.
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bigboydan
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08-10-05
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#22
I respectfully disagree about WSEX, Mudcat. Their lines break a bit too soon IMO.
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Chi_archie
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07-22-08
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#23
5 dimes
Wagerstreet
justbet
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Bostongambler
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02-01-08
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#24
Bet Jamica
SOS
5 Dimes
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Otters27
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07-14-07
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#25
If matchbook does 1% commission again they are best.
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Kaps
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....matchbook is the best place bar none, especially if they offer 1% again this year which im sure they will
but also go with pinny, 5dimes, and betjm
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unit1884
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06-11-08
938
#27
Pinny has garbage MLB Lines, having 5dimes and Matchy and you will get the best MLB line (on average)
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5 star bomb
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10-12-07
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#28
Matchbook
5Dimes
Betjam
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InTheHole
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04-28-08
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#29
Looks like I'll take a stab at Match and BetJam this Spring...If I experience extensive downtimes @ Match (like what happened last season)...I'm outta there...thanks for the feedback guys.
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TodaysAction
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08-01-08
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Originally posted by Mudcat
Good call. Skybook had startlingly good lines on MLB last season. I say startling because for years they were known as the ultimate vanilla book, always moving in lockstep with Pinnacle, almost never with the best line on either side of anything.
But no shit, they were really good last MLB season. 2K limits.
WSEX is another good call. They have lower juice (7 cents) than pinny for those games right around a pick 'em. Some opinionation too. 2.5K limits. A must have IMO.
Thank you.
Hopefully they will repeat their efforts this season.
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pimike
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03-23-08
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#31
Originally posted by flyingillini
I only use Heritage for everything.
Can u get me in?
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ryanspeer2001
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03-30-08
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#32
Matchbook and BetPhoenix
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Chi_archie
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07-22-08
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#33
Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
CW.com ONLY, when the line is right. Ready for my underdog betting strat this year again
what was the strat
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InTheHole
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04-28-08
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#34
^ haha....no offense IWIN but that was a whaCKED STRATEGY...ILL DO A SEARCH CHI---HOLD ON