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  • AgainstAllOdds
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-24-08
    • 6053

    #1
    What line holds more value?
    FIRST HALF

    Philly -3 +110
    Philly -2.5 -120

    I know half points usually hold more value for halfs, but is it really 30 cents better?
    Originally posted by SBR_John
    AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
  • durito
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-03-06
    • 13173

    #2
    -3 +110
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    • Iwinyourmoney
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-18-07
      • 18368

      #3
      I personally would take the -2.5. Ya there is more "value" in -3 +110 vs. -2.5 -120. What good is value when it has a good chance of pushing. How is the 1st half really going to land on a difference of 2 points unless its a tie at half? I would rather push then win any day of the week
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      • durito
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-03-06
        • 13173

        #4
        Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
        I would rather push then win any day of the week
        And I would rather make more money in the long run.

        The 3 pushes far less at the half than it does for the game.
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        • Iwinyourmoney
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-18-07
          • 18368

          #5
          Durito, the difference at -2.5 vs -3 is clear as day I think. At half it will tied, or a team will lead by 3 or more. Find me NFL stats this year that at halftime the margin was between 1 & 2 points at half time, my guess is there are maybe 3 games this year (max) at that margin
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          • Iwinyourmoney
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-18-07
            • 18368

            #6
            Take the extra juice and take the 2.5. Way better win expectancy than at 3
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            • dwaechte
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-27-07
              • 5481

              #7
              This isn't even close. Giving 30 cents would still be terrible value even if it was the full game. -3 +110 is the bet.
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              • durito
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-03-06
                • 13173

                #8
                Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
                Durito, the difference at -2.5 vs -3 is clear as day I think. At half it will tied, or a team will lead by 3 or more. Find me NFL stats this year that at halftime the margin was between 1 & 2 points at half time, my guess is there are maybe 3 games this year (max) at that margin
                This is not the way to approach this question. The question is how often will the 3 push. With that info you can determine how much that 1/2 pt is worth. The 3 pushes in the first half around 5.5% of the time (which is actually less than the 4) making the fair price for that 1/2 around 12 cents (which is way less than the 25 cents it's worth for the full game)

                Meaning if you can get -3 +110, you should be playing -2.5 at -102 or better only. -120 is WAY worse.
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                • BigOrangeTitans
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-23-07
                  • 4504

                  #9
                  It depends a lot upon how strongly you feel this will land on 3. I would guess without lookin at the numbers that the 5.5% could vary simply due to the fact of how hard these lines are hit
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                  • pokernut9999
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-25-07
                    • 12757

                    #10
                    Since Arizona will be ahead at the half , neither one holds any value.
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                    • durito
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-03-06
                      • 13173

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pokernut9999
                      Since Arizona will be ahead at the half , neither one holds any value.
                      value can be negative.

                      i wasn't answering the question with any assumption about either being +EV, simply which one was preferable.
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                      • durito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-03-06
                        • 13173

                        #12
                        fwiw pinnacle is charging 20 cents for that half. i'd lean then towards it being worth more than the 13 i suggested.
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                        • pokernut9999
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-25-07
                          • 12757

                          #13
                          Originally posted by durito
                          value can be negative.

                          i wasn't answering the question with any assumption about either being +EV, simply which one was preferable.

                          I was just having fun
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                          • Chi_archie
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-22-08
                            • 63172

                            #14
                            -3 ya meatball
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                            • pokernut9999
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-25-07
                              • 12757

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pokernut9999
                              Since Arizona will be ahead at the half , neither one holds any value.


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