Patriots under 10 wins?

[Louisvillekid1]

This squad is going to be in for a long season...

Seen this show before...

[greenhippo]

ESPN just yesterday talking about "Pats still best team in the AFC?"

[Grits n' Gravy]

They will be fine. 5 or 6 wins in division and .500 ball out of division at worst gets you a push.

[Louisvillekid1]

Is that the line? Haven't even looked...
I'm just predicting no more than 10... Vegas line is prob 10.5

[joco]

pats and ravens taking a step back...texans will never win with schaub...broncos are the best team in the afc imo. but pats are in such a cake division...and theyre still better than 26 of the 32 teams on paper even with gronk hurt to start the season and no hernandez

[Louisvillekid1]

They will be fine. 5 or 6 wins in division and .500 ball out of division at worst gets you a push.

Gritter,

No way they go better than 4-2 in division...

[You mad bro]

Heard Brady broke his leg and needs surgery .. Out 7 months

[Grits n' Gravy]

Gritter,

No way they go better than 4-2 in division...

Who is beating them? Jets and Sanchez? Bills? Tannehill?

[Louisvillekid1]

Dolphins win Atleast one for sure

[Big Bear]

ESPN just yesterday talking about "Pats still best team in the AFC?"

that actually may be true.

The loss of Welker and Woodhead will hurt more than Hernandez.


But anytime Tom Brady is your QB you got a chance to win

[MoneyLineDawg]

Who is beating them? Jets and Sanchez? Bills? Tannehill?

Jets and Rex could steal one....they've won a few over the Pats since Rex has been there and even took them to OT and should have won in Foxboro last season with a garbage, hurt team

Dolphins should win one as well

Probably 4-2 would be my guess

[greenhippo]

that actually may be true.

The loss of Welker and Woodhead will hurt more than Hernandez.


But anytime Tom Brady is your QB you got a chance to win

I don't see it, I think Broncos and Texans will be better, for this year at least.

[neutral]

Don't see value here, they are in a bad division, BB system allows inferior players to excel. Where there is value is wagering on tough opposition [ATS] that they will be facing in non-divisional games now if you live in Vegas through Cantor Sportsbook as those lines will drop further as those contest moves near. Also value in going against them in post season [especially if they are facing physical team] because as defence tightens, lack of those receivers will be felt.

[Big Bear]

I don't see it, I think Broncos and Texans will be better, for this year at least.

yeah i agree Broncos appear to be better.

Broncos vs 49ers is my super bowl pick

[greenhippo]

Broncos - Packers/Saints here

[neutral]

yeah i agree Broncos appear to be better.

Broncos vs 49ers is my super bowl pick

As long as Coach [No Balls] Fox is at the helm, it is a negative for Denver, SF figures to be in reckoning because their fundamental football.

[neutral]

Broncos - Packers/Saints here

If you are looking for quality season win total the Saints should be higher on the food chain along with Pittsburgh.

[Art Vandelay]

I got NE under 11.5 wins a few weeks ago when the Hernandez shit hit the fan...$$$!

[Louisvillekid1]

Yeah figured the line was Atleast a game higher

[BIGDAY]

I like the Vikes Over and Wahington Under their total wins this year.

[Goat Milk]

Has Brady ever won less than 10 games in his career? Over should be easy money. Patriots will probably sweep that division. That's 6 wins right there.

[Louisvillekid1]

People don't even read the posts...

[Goat Milk]

Lkid pats are not winning less than 9 games. So basically you're hoping they win 9, that's a very big risk to take and very small margin for victory. Pats are not gonna be a team that's 8-8 or less. The least they win is 9 games, that's being generous. So this prop has no value. They play in probably the worst division in football.

Jets are joke, dolphins are decent, and the bills, who knows about those guys. Pats will go at worst 4-2 in the division. 1 loss will come to the dolphins maybe.

Have you assessed the remainder of their schedule? The AFC is really not that good this year aside from a couple elite teams. The NFC is the conference now.

[Louisvillekid1]

I'm predicting that they don't win more than 10 games, that's all.

I believe the line is 11...

I think the Dolphins have a big year and Bills are better than people think as well.

Pats are depleted and got all this off the field trouble...

I say 10-6 share title w/. Mia

[DeezusWINSTREAKT]

Why is this baseball

[NYSportsGuy210]

Don't sleep on Miami Dolphins. They may win 8-9 games this year. Ryan Tannehill will be much improved in his second year.

[Madison]

They will be fine. 5 or 6 wins in division and .500 ball out of division at worst gets you a push.

Yeah, this is what I'm thinking. Division is weak.

[manny24]

Don't sleep on Miami Dolphins. They may win 8-9 games this year. Ryan Tannehill will be much improved in his second year.

rooster breath

[samdapatriotsfan]

As a life long Patriots fan I actually feel this is not as bad as everyone is making it out to be, not by far.

I think this will force McDaniels to be more creative and quit trying to find 20 yard plays every time they drop back to throw and then just dumping it to the slot when it is not open. This works in the regular season but in the post season someone will shut it down eventually. Ask Peyton Manning via his IND Colt time.

I personally am pretty anxious to see them play. Hoodie will have to put his mind onto the defensive side of the ball and quit trying to score 50pts a game to win.

IMO minimum of 11 wins this season, something along these lines.

@Buf - W
NYJ - L
TB - W
@ATL - L
@CIN - W
NO - W
@NYJ - W
MIA - W
PIT - L
@CAR - W
DEN - W
@HOU - W
CLE - W
@MIA - L
@BAL - L
BUF - W

[NYSportsGuy210]

rooster breath

Awww u mad little boy?

[Big Bear]

Has Brady ever won less than 10 games in his career? Over should be easy money. Patriots will probably sweep that division. That's 6 wins right there.

no fukkin way they sweep the division

[greenhippo]

Having them beat both Texans and Saints but losing to Pitt and Balt?

[allin1]

I'm predicting that they don't win more than 10 games, that's all.

I believe the line is 11...

I think the Dolphins have a big year and Bills are better than people think as well.

Pats are depleted and got all this off the field trouble...

I say 10-6 share title w/. Mia

I think you might be on to something here

[GunShard]

I like this bet.

[unluckysob]

AFC championship game---Bengals 31 Broncos 27.