Look at how much better the Suns look out there without that fat sack of Shaq

[Tsoprano]

Running, scrappier on defense, etc.

The second Denver scores, Phoenix is on the other end of the court right away.

It will be too much for the Nuggets to handle as the night goes on.

[Immortality]

I took Phoenix like you. I think this game could be close. I am interested in the 2nd half line when it comes out. I might try to middle it.

[ryanXL977]

tsop
they are playing the denver nuggets, a team who never, ever ever shows up against any good teams
ever

except once
at boston

[Tsoprano]

True, but they still look better out there. Shaq slows them down big time and messes up their game plan.

[ryanXL977]

they are playing denver dude, not a good halfcourt team. so they can run with denver, not impressive to me

denver isnt as good as the suns. not that the suns are good, but denver is dallas is detroit

they are first round outs in the loffs every yr

denver is a gutless team
always has been

[Immortality]

2nd half line is -4.5

If it moves to Nuggets -4 I am going to try to middle.

[Tsoprano]

Suns are better without Shaq and that's just a fact.

Period.

[ryanXL977]

with shaq or without shaq they will never beat

new orl
san antonio
lakers
houston
possibly utah also

no matter if shaq plays or not suns dont win in the loffs with this team

[Immortality]

TSop I have been with you all day on the Suns.

I think the Jack Daniels has kicked in because I just took the Nuggets 2nd half -4 -110


So I have the that and Suns +3 -101 for the game.

I am now rooting for a Nugget win by 1 point so I win both and Phoenix still covers for you.

[Tsoprano]

I never said they would, but they are better regardless without Shaq.

And could probably get farther in the playoffs without him.

[Tsoprano]

Ballsy move, gl Immor.

[onlooker]

I felt the addition of Shaq was a mistake from day 1 for the Suns.

[Tsoprano]

I felt the addition of Shaq was a mistake from day 1 for the Suns.

It definitely was.

[ryanXL977]

but they never got anywhere with marion, so they took a shot at something big
mistake? probably. but they werent goin anywhere before so why not

dallas dealing for kidd was a much bigger mistake

[onlooker]

dallas dealing for kidd was a much bigger mistake

Agreed, that was a mistake as well.

[Tsoprano]

dallas dealing for kidd was a much bigger mistake

Definitely

[Immortality]

dallas dealing for kidd was a much bigger mistake

As much as I thought the Shaq trade was horrible, I have to agree with this statement.

[ryanXL977]

but i mean, even the day dallas did that deal i knew it was a horrid deal. i dont know one person who thought it was smart by dallas. everyone knew it was bad. now, ill be honest, im from dallas and i love the mavs and i never ever knew harris had this offensive game. but still, the deal was bad

now its the worst deal ive ever seen in the nba in my lifetime

[Immortality]

now its the worst deal ive ever seen in the nba in my lifetime

I agree it was bad but don't go overboard.

Vlade Divac for Kobe Bryant is much worse.

[THEGREAT30]

Shaq has been the best and most consistent player on the Suns this year.