This video could change your view of the world

[fearless]

[fearless]

No comments? I found this video very enlightening.

[Gemoka]

Lasted 5 mins but not as good as 24 so back to that for me.

[pico]

that is why i support the 2nd amendment.

have you guys wonder why the gov is so pro marriage. when you're forced to feed a nagging wife and a hungry kid, you have to do whatever the man tell you to do.

that is why i like RogueScholar...he is somewhat sort of a rebel.

[Data]

No comments? I found this video very enlightening.

fearless, you do not come out as an idiot yet you like crap like that video or JJGold's posts. Are you 16 or something? If you are, there is a hope for you.

[gordon gekko]

[fearless]

fearless, you do not come out as an idiot yet you like crap like that video or JJGold's posts. Are you 16 or something? If you are, there is a hope for you.

If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger. That's a sign that the message resonates with you but you can't accept it.

If you're gonna call the video "crap" then please refute it, point by point. My guess is that you won't be able to refute any of it.

[VegasDave]

If you're gonna call the video "crap" then please refute it, point by point. My guess is that you won't be able to refute any of it.

You can't really refute over-generalizations.

[JBC77]

I barely got through the first 2 minutes......

[fearless]

fearless, you do not come out as an idiot yet you like crap like that video or JJGold's posts. Are you 16 or something? If you are, there is a hope for you.

Unless you actually want to discuss the points in the video and refute them then I'm putting you on ignore forever.

There was no reason for you to stoop to grade school-type name calling.

If the video is crap then you should be able to refute it easily. I'm all ears.

[fearless]

You can't really refute over-generalizations.

Please quote an over-generalization from the video.

[Data]

Unless you actually want to discuss the points in the video and refute them then I'm putting you on ignore forever.

I will do my best to avoid refuting conspiracy theories or talking to conspiracy theorists. That video is a conspiracy theory and it is not even amusing at that. So, ignore list it is.

There was no reason for you to stoop to grade school-type name calling.

Sir, you are seeing things, which is actually very common among conspiracy theorists. Perhaps you took my genuine question about your age as a rhetoric one. Even if it was rhetoric question (and it was not) it is still not a "grade school-type name calling".

The reason I asked about your age is to determine should I try helping you. You see, I do not mind helping younger people and sharing some of the stuff I either learned or developed myself during my academic years studying sociology (not in the US, my communication deficiencies are not due to a lack of education). However, if you are not a teen then you must be a conspiracy theorist and I just do not want to waste my time talking to you.

[fearless]

I will do my best to avoid refuting conspiracy theories or talking to conspiracy theorists. That video is a conspiracy theory and it is not even amusing at that. So, ignore list it is.



Sir, you are seeing things, which is actually very common among conspiracy theorists. Perhaps you took my genuine question about your age as a rhetoric one. Even if it was rhetoric question (and it was not) it is still not a "grade school-type name calling".

The reason I asked about your age is to determine should I try helping you. You see, I do not mind helping younger people and sharing some of the stuff I either learned or developed myself during my academic years studying sociology (not in the US, my communication deficiencies are not due to a lack of education). However, if you are not a teen then you must be a conspiracy theorist and I just do not want to waste my time talking to you.

You're on ignore for good. You don't want to talk about facts, you just want to attack the messenger.

[pico]

fearless, when you own a factory in asia...you're pretty much a slave owner. they eat, sleep in the compound and they have strict curfews so the female works won't be wandering outside the factor and get kidnapped to become whore in malaysia.

the rich countries just outsource the dirty work to developing countries and use Human Rights organizations as PR. pretty nice system for the rich.

[fearless]

There are so many facts stated in the video and it's not theory. I don't see how someone could call facts theory unless they don't understand the terms.

You better update the .dat file, Data.

[fearless]

fearless, when you own a factory in asia...you're pretty much a slave owner. they eat, sleep in the compound and they have strict curfews so the female works won't be wandering outside the factor and get kidnapped to become whore in malaysia.

the rich countries just outsource the dirty work to developing countries and use Human Rights organizations as PR. pretty nice system for the rich.

The video states about 100 facts and Data could choose any of them to discuss and refute. But, rather than discuss anything from the video, he wants to attack me. Then he accuses me of being a kid?

He's the one acting like a schoolyard bully.

He's talking about a video that discusses facts and he calls it "theory."

This is called invincible ignorance. You can't argue with people like Data because they'll just plead ignorance every time. They'll say that facts are theory or refuse to even discuss anything because they know nothing about the topics so they just call it crap without analyzing it at all or even discussing it. They won't try to do it because they can't.

As soon as he attacked me I knew I won the argument.

If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger. As soon as someone does that you've won the argument. It means that they can't handle the facts that you're communicating so they have to attack you instead.

It's totally childlike and he asks me how old I am?

[pico]

data is a dick. i bet he have me on ignore already, so whatever i say here he won't be able to see it. he is one of those typical logical guys who thinks world is a math equation. he is getting ****ed by the man and didn't even realized it. my two cents

[fearless]

data is a dick. i bet he have me on ignore already, so whatever i say here he won't be able to see it. he is one of those typical logical guys who thinks world is a math equation. he is getting ****ed by the man and didn't even realized it. my two cents

Exactly.

[Masu485]

the masses do not want to look out of the box. they feel safe in the box, they feel connected with society in the box. ignorance is bliss.

i'm big on conspiracies and all that, and through my research, the question for me isn't if this is happening or if there are conspiracies, but my question at this point is what gives the better life? being free, but outcasted from ur society of mindless fools, or being ignorant like them with false happiness and living the life that's already been written?

[fearless]

the masses do not want to look out of the box. they feel safe in the box, they feel connected with society in the box. ignorance is bliss.

i'm big on conspiracies and all that, and through my research, the question for me isn't if this is happening or if there are conspiracies, but my question at this point is what gives the better life? being free, but outcasted from ur society of mindless fools, or being ignorant like them with false happiness and living the life that's already been written?

Conspiracies are everywhere. Who can deny that there's freemason lodges in every city? Freemasonry is a conspiracy that has a huge impact on society. The founding fathers were mostly masons. George Bush belongs to skull and bones and he said himself "It's so secret that I can't talk about it." That's conspiracy fact.

To answer your question, you can have the best of both worlds by choosing your profession, friends, and associates wisely, imho.

[VegasDave]

Please quote an over-generalization from the video.

Okay, how the hell am I supposed to argue against a statement like this;

"You are allowed to leave, but never to real freedom, only to another farm, because the whole world is a farm."

?

Also at the beginning of the video, he says "that which we create to help us... ends up enslaving us."

He of course doesn't point out all the nice things that government does for us like, you know, PREVENT COMPLETE ANARCHY.

The entire video's metaphor that we are livestock and the ruling class are the harvesters was just annoying. Yes, I get the metaphor, but doesn't he realize the irony that his "slave-owners" are protecting his right to make this video in the freedom of speech?

And what alternative is he suggesting exactly? Again, I agree that things aren't perfect right now. But is he really suggesting a world without government? Complete anarchy with no laws, no education, no reason, just madness? We'll all burn each other alive. Where is his precious video going to be seen when no one is keeping the internet running anymore?

[donjuan]

This video is loltacular. No wonder you people can't win at sports betting.

[wtf]

video is lame, who do you think the guy who created it will call when his wife gets raped?

yea the fukin farm police

[VegasDave]

yea the fukin farm police

In his monotone ass voice too.

"I'm calling because something happened to my.... wife.

I know I'm merely a slave and you own... the... farm.

But I'd like your help because I'm a hypo.... critical douche."

[reno cool]

The livestock comparison actually works surprisingly well and there is much to learn from this video. Many analogies are dead on. However it doesn't work perfectly primarily because it only takes into account the needs and actions of ruling classes. Humans societies are a bit more complex.

Countless people have sacrificed and given their lives fighting the power, and do so now. So in reality there is an uneasy give and take. The people are certainly a heavy underdog in the struggle, but things do progress and change over time.

good job

[VegasDave]

The livestock comparison actually works surprisingly well and there is much to learn from this video. Many analogies are dead on. However it doesn't work perfectly primarily because it only takes into account the needs and actions of ruling classes. Humans societies are a bit more complex.

I don't entirely disagree. People are a lot like sheep. Society is indeed fvcked up in a lot of ways.

But the problem I have with videos like this is that they don't offer any solutions. The world is fvcked up? No shit, tell me something I don't know. We are just livestock and true freedom can not be reached? Okay, how do we try and reach true freedom?

Does anyone really need to watch a 16 minute long video to know things are fvcked up?

[Bread]

This video is loltacular. No wonder you people can't win at sports betting.

You people?? Who you callin YOU PEOPLE!?!?

[reno cool]

I don't entirely disagree. People are a lot like sheep. Society is indeed fvcked up in a lot of ways.

But the problem I have with videos like this is that they don't offer any solutions. The world is fvcked up? No shit, tell me something I don't know. We are just livestock and true freedom can not be reached? Okay, how do we try and reach true freedom?

Does anyone really need to watch a 16 minute long video to know things are fvcked up?

For one, we can start by being aware of what we're taught and take for granted as a group.
We can refuse to participate and support war.
We can refuse to work.
We can stop voting and supporting politicians
We can unite in groups to challenge authority.

The reason we have the freedoms we do have today is because countless nameless people have done just that and continue to do so. Otherwise we would mostly be cows on the farm as the video shows.

[pico]

For one, we can start by being aware of what we're taught and take for granted as a group.
We can refuse to participate and support war.
We can refuse to work.
We can stop voting and supporting politicians
We can unite in groups to challenge authority.

The reason we have the freedoms we do have today is because countless nameless people have done just that and continue to do so. Otherwise we would mostly be cows on the farm as the video shows.

i think the only thing that works nowdays is getting a nuke. otherwise, the military will just laugh at you.