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  • Goat Milk
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    • 03-24-10
    • 25850

    #1
    Biggest Bet of the Year. Heat ML, Mia -4 -170, + more. In Depth Analysis Inside.
    I have only bet 2 games this entire series. Miami game 3 and Miami game 5. I've rewatched the game 3 times and here is my brief analysis. I don't mess around when I'm tossing around this kind of money. Doesn't come as easy to me as it does to lakerman and some others.

    In game 5, I said the recipe for success would be to front Hibbert on every play possible. Haslem was pretty successful in this respect but still had some lapses. Game 6, they completely went away from that in the 2nd half. There was too much focus by Wade and Chalmers and Lebron on the pass into the post that they were backing off on guys like Paul George, Hill, etc, guys you can't give that couple of feet because they are going to rise up every time. You need to play Hibbert 1 on 1 in this game 7. The only time I suggest a hard collapse will be when Hibbert is near the baseline and you can essentially use the baseline as a defender.

    2nd point- You have to front David West if you're going to put Battier on him. West might be the strongest post player in the NBA. Battier is a SF. You need Lebron to switch onto West whenever possible. Lebron's lower body is stronger than West so when he fronts him, it'll be impossible to get the ball into West with Lebron's combination of lower body strength and vertical.

    3rd point- As much that's been made of Wade and Bosh this series, Lebron James has been awful on the defensive end of the ball. THe strategy for MIA has been allow Wade to guard Paul George and let Lebron save his energy for the offensive end. Unfortunately, Paul has done the majority of his damage when Lebron has switched onto him. Lebron is not 250 pounds. He's 275. Maybe more. The guy has lost a step in quickness since a few years ago. He's putting on too much muscle and George has blown by him several times. James needs to accept the challenge of guarding multiple guys on the floor tonight and stop worrying about chucking up 25 shots a game. He needs to relax on the shot attempts. I expect a magic-type performance from Lebron on the offensive end tonight. 10 assists probably.

    4th point- It's clear that Wade is not healthy. For those saying he's washed up, I do believe he's one of maybe 3 players? to average over 20 5 and 5 this year. All on taking only 15-16 shots a game, and a career year in fg%. Guys like Wade need shots to get in a rhythm. You can't let Wade take only 7, 8, 10 shots a game. That type of player needs touches. He needs to feel the ball. See the ball go through the rim. A lot of the shots he's missed have been bunnies. He's been scared to elevate and put a lot of pressure on that knee. Wade came out and said that he wants more touches in game 7. Expect this team to follow their true leader in Wade and for him to come out and drop 20+ points and take at least 15 shots.

    5th point- Bosh got manhandled in game 6. He's been destroyed by Hibbert in every game this season. Spoelstra has thoroughly been outcoached this series. When does Bosh need to be on the court? When Mahimi is out there to give Hibbert a breather. Spoelstra is an average coach. I noticed this after game 1. I should be on those sidelines. Bosh is spending way too much time on the perimeter and hasn't been aggressive. I expect double digit points tonight from him as well. Why? The recipe for MIA is quite simple. When both Lebron and Wade are attacking the paint with efficiency, you have no choice but to bring hibbert and west down to collapse. Seeing as though Wade has been struggling big time, it's no surprise that Bosh hasn't been getting open looks. A good game from Wade usually means a solid game from Bosh as well.

    6th point- Expect MIA to focus on getting Wade involved early off flare screens and off those curls him and James frequently run in the paint. As a leader, James needs to understand that he can't take 25 shots this game. He MUST get guys like Allen, Battier, CHalmers involved early and often. With PG defending Lebron quite well, I don't expect him to score over 30 tonight.

    Haslem should be a beneficiary of both James and Wade tonight.

    Pacers offensive system will collapse tonight, just how I said it would in game 5. Spending so much time trying to feed the big men tonight is gonna leave the perimeter players with minimal time to get their shots up.

    On a defensive note, they've done a great job of guarding 1 on 1 throughout this series. If Wade gets going, that whole formula changes, even if Vogal tells them not to. It's instinct. Hibbert gets worried and starts rotating down, leaving Bosh and Haslem open in the corners and on the elbows.

    MIAMI -350 Risk $6000
    Miami -4 -170 Risk $1000 (5 dimes line)
    MIA HT& FT -130 Risk $325 (5 dimes prop)
    MIA wins by 6-10 +310 (5 dimes line) Risk $75
    JAMES OVER 6.5 assists +110 (5 dimes line) Risk $100
    WADE OVER 16 points -110 Risking $330

    As you can see, with this amount of money on the line, I'm pretty scared to take the -7. I Think it's possible MIA squeaks out a 4 5 point win. IMO I think they win by 6. I'm not taking a -7 with that little margin for error. The Pacers are a very good team, and I suspect them to play well tonight, but just be outmatched here.

    FYI MIA ML is my biggest bet of the year.
    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
  • TwoWays
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-10
    • 13145

    #2
    I like everything except the picks.
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    • BIGDAY
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      • 02-17-10
      • 48245

      #3
      Hope you cash pal.

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      • Goat Milk
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        • 03-24-10
        • 25850

        #4
        Originally posted by TwoWays
        I like everything except the picks.
        i'm assuming with your immediate response you did not read the analysis. I could be wrong, but when I write that type of analysis and think this hard about a game and rewatch the film 3 times, I'm usually pretty confident.

        Good luck to you whatever you decide.

        I'm out for the night.
        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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        • Goat Milk
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 03-24-10
          • 25850

          #5
          Originally posted by BIGDAY
          Hope you cash pal.

          thanks my man. i'm pretty nervous/excited. a lot on the line tonight.
          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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          • TwoWays
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            • 03-24-10
            • 13145

            #6
            Originally posted by Goat Milk
            i'm assuming with your immediate response you did not read the analysis. I could be wrong, but when I write that type of analysis and think this hard about a game and rewatch the film 3 times, I'm usually pretty confident.

            Good luck to you whatever you decide.

            I'm out for the night.
            I'm a quick reader. I do like everything you said, I wish you were on the sidelines too but you're not.
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            • Easy-Rider 66
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              • 02-14-12
              • 36775

              #7
              Goat- Good write up and GL. But Man Up and Pay back those tokens you owe Stash/Yisman. Might be good Karma for tonight.
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              • BIGDAY
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 02-17-10
                • 48245

                #8
                Thrill of a larger wager.

                Always exciting.
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                • Vinnie Paz
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                  • 03-27-12
                  • 12177

                  #9
                  Solid post
                  Goater is a quality poster , good shit man.
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                  • konck
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-17-06
                    • 12554

                    #10
                    What a fukin idiot ...Im pretty sure you dont gamble. All that write up shit and you lay -4 for -170 lol your the type who takes +1.5 in mlb ur a Dik
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                    • konck
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-17-06
                      • 12554

                      #11
                      MIAMI -350 Risk $7.00
                      Miami -4 -170 Risk $8.50 (5 dimes line)
                      MIA HT& FT -130 Risk $6.50 (5 dimes prop)
                      MIA wins by 6-10 +310 (5 dimes line) Risk .75
                      JAMES OVER 6.5 assists +110 (5 dimes line) Risk $1.00
                      WADE OVER 16 points -110 Risking $3.30 I got into your acct on 5Dimes and pasted your real wagers
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                      • Rellik
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-11-09
                        • 1945

                        #12
                        Awesome post. I have Miami -7 $5500 TO WIN $5000
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                        • Sport_Fish
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-06-10
                          • 4079

                          #13
                          Wade prop is the worst bet. There has been nothing thus far that suggests Wade is going to put up that number or more.
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                          • konck
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-17-06
                            • 12554

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sport_Fish
                            Wade prop is the worst bet. There has been nothing thus far that suggests Wade is going to put up that number or more.
                            Wade prop just became Mortal Ill even bet it now thanks fish I was liking that bet any how
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                            • JOHON8
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-28-10
                              • 7712

                              #15
                              Excellent analysis. But like you said "Spoelstra is an average coach. I noticed this after game 1. I should be on those sidelines." So everything you just said is what you "expect", not what you would tell the players yourself, which really means that all this analysis isn't going to help your bets, they are just hopes. At the end of the day everyone is just flipping a coin, good luck.
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                              • NiCkLe GiLcH
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 11-17-10
                                • 106

                                #16
                                im on Indy +8 -130 .. 650/500 ... but im far from sold on this play
                                my big play is 2200/2000 INDY 1H +4
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                                • NiCkLe GiLcH
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 11-17-10
                                  • 106

                                  #17
                                  cant wait to see them try to get wade involved early off curls and screens and watch him start the game 1 for 5 tossing up bricks
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                                  • letsgo
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-27-10
                                    • 2204

                                    #18
                                    You had me at LakerBoy is on Indiana
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                                    • BigDeem5
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-26-11
                                      • 17191

                                      #19
                                      I saved the fake analysis and made a similar post, Miami by 6-8 PTs
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                                      • face
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-31-11
                                        • 14740

                                        #20
                                        point #6 - heat get outrebounded by 20 by indiana regularly
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                                        • t-wizzle
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                                          • 12-18-09
                                          • 38099

                                          #21
                                          Tonight will be the final in a long line of burials for Goat.
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                                          • BigDeem5
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-26-11
                                            • 17191

                                            #22
                                            Goat wins. Not many sharper than goat and I.

                                            Twizz n lb on pacers ml, pound it bros
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                                            • tony_come
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-31-10
                                              • 21695

                                              #23
                                              This is crazy!
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                                              • boomer62
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-10-11
                                                • 1500

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                I have only bet 2 games this entire series. Miami game 3 and Miami game 5. I've rewatched the game 3 times and here is my brief analysis. I don't mess around when I'm tossing around this kind of money. Doesn't come as easy to me as it does to lakerman and some others.

                                                In game 5, I said the recipe for success would be to front Hibbert on every play possible. Haslem was pretty successful in this respect but still had some lapses. Game 6, they completely went away from that in the 2nd half. There was too much focus by Wade and Chalmers and Lebron on the pass into the post that they were backing off on guys like Paul George, Hill, etc, guys you can't give that couple of feet because they are going to rise up every time. You need to play Hibbert 1 on 1 in this game 7. The only time I suggest a hard collapse will be when Hibbert is near the baseline and you can essentially use the baseline as a defender.

                                                2nd point- You have to front David West if you're going to put Battier on him. West might be the strongest post player in the NBA. Battier is a SF. You need Lebron to switch onto West whenever possible. Lebron's lower body is stronger than West so when he fronts him, it'll be impossible to get the ball into West with Lebron's combination of lower body strength and vertical.

                                                3rd point- As much that's been made of Wade and Bosh this series, Lebron James has been awful on the defensive end of the ball. THe strategy for MIA has been allow Wade to guard Paul George and let Lebron save his energy for the offensive end. Unfortunately, Paul has done the majority of his damage when Lebron has switched onto him. Lebron is not 250 pounds. He's 275. Maybe more. The guy has lost a step in quickness since a few years ago. He's putting on too much muscle and George has blown by him several times. James needs to accept the challenge of guarding multiple guys on the floor tonight and stop worrying about chucking up 25 shots a game. He needs to relax on the shot attempts. I expect a magic-type performance from Lebron on the offensive end tonight. 10 assists probably.

                                                4th point- It's clear that Wade is not healthy. For those saying he's washed up, I do believe he's one of maybe 3 players? to average over 20 5 and 5 this year. All on taking only 15-16 shots a game, and a career year in fg%. Guys like Wade need shots to get in a rhythm. You can't let Wade take only 7, 8, 10 shots a game. That type of player needs touches. He needs to feel the ball. See the ball go through the rim. A lot of the shots he's missed have been bunnies. He's been scared to elevate and put a lot of pressure on that knee. Wade came out and said that he wants more touches in game 7. Expect this team to follow their true leader in Wade and for him to come out and drop 20+ points and take at least 15 shots.

                                                5th point- Bosh got manhandled in game 6. He's been destroyed by Hibbert in every game this season. Spoelstra has thoroughly been outcoached this series. When does Bosh need to be on the court? When Mahimi is out there to give Hibbert a breather. Spoelstra is an average coach. I noticed this after game 1. I should be on those sidelines. Bosh is spending way too much time on the perimeter and hasn't been aggressive. I expect double digit points tonight from him as well. Why? The recipe for MIA is quite simple. When both Lebron and Wade are attacking the paint with efficiency, you have no choice but to bring hibbert and west down to collapse. Seeing as though Wade has been struggling big time, it's no surprise that Bosh hasn't been getting open looks. A good game from Wade usually means a solid game from Bosh as well.

                                                6th point- Expect MIA to focus on getting Wade involved early off flare screens and off those curls him and James frequently run in the paint. As a leader, James needs to understand that he can't take 25 shots this game. He MUST get guys like Allen, Battier, CHalmers involved early and often. With PG defending Lebron quite well, I don't expect him to score over 30 tonight.

                                                Haslem should be a beneficiary of both James and Wade tonight.

                                                Pacers offensive system will collapse tonight, just how I said it would in game 5. Spending so much time trying to feed the big men tonight is gonna leave the perimeter players with minimal time to get their shots up.

                                                On a defensive note, they've done a great job of guarding 1 on 1 throughout this series. If Wade gets going, that whole formula changes, even if Vogal tells them not to. It's instinct. Hibbert gets worried and starts rotating down, leaving Bosh and Haslem open in the corners and on the elbows.

                                                MIAMI -350 Risk $6000
                                                Miami -4 -170 Risk $1000 (5 dimes line)
                                                MIA HT& FT -130 Risk $325 (5 dimes prop)
                                                MIA wins by 6-10 +310 (5 dimes line) Risk $75
                                                JAMES OVER 6.5 assists +110 (5 dimes line) Risk $100
                                                WADE OVER 16 points -110 Risking $330

                                                As you can see, with this amount of money on the line, I'm pretty scared to take the -7. I Think it's possible MIA squeaks out a 4 5 point win. IMO I think they win by 6. I'm not taking a -7 with that little margin for error. The Pacers are a very good team, and I suspect them to play well tonight, but just be outmatched here.

                                                FYI MIA ML is my biggest bet of the year.
                                                I'd be careful. I don't disagree with some of your analysis but my biggest concern is the officials. If thet let them play, Indiana can win. If they call it close, then Indiana can't be as physical and Miami may spend the night on the foul line. I am watching the first half and may get some better value with the second half lines.
                                                Would not take Mia for first half as they always seem to turn it on in the second half.
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                                                • TwoWays
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                                                  • 03-24-10
                                                  • 13145

                                                  #25
                                                  My gift to GM. For the next analysis or more analysis on this game.

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                                                  • TwoWays
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                                                    • 03-24-10
                                                    • 13145

                                                    #26


                                                    For side out plays
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                                                    • Ron29301
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                                                      • 12-27-11
                                                      • 2311

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by tony_come
                                                      This is crazy!
                                                      Unpredictable.....That's what the hell it is right about now.
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                                                      • Demonata
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                                                        • 07-12-11
                                                        • 25829

                                                        #28
                                                        Good luck. Took miami heat first quarter myself.
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                                                        • pouyasophy
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                                                          • 01-11-13
                                                          • 1665

                                                          #29
                                                          Anyone who knows Goatmilk and gamblers who think like Goatmilk know that these people bet on Miami every game. As a matter of fact, these gamblers bet on favorites every game and wonder why they win 35% of the time.
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                                                          • h3da
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                                                            • 05-10-10
                                                            • 1331

                                                            #30
                                                            No value at the current price to even take miami ml
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                                                            • DrStale
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                                                              • 12-07-08
                                                              • 9692

                                                              #31
                                                              Biggest bet of the year on a ML when you don't even think that team will cover the spread. That makes sense.
                                                              Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                                              • SlickRick1382
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-15-11
                                                                • 3838

                                                                #32
                                                                Biggest bet of the year on a Game 7 that can go either way on a dead even series?

                                                                Seems more like being a fan that a sports better.

                                                                Had you said biggest bet of the year on the under or something, fine. 6k to win what? like 1700?

                                                                Doesn't make sense to me...

                                                                I wish you luck, I'm on the Under ...
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                                                                • ShogunRua
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                                                                  • 12-23-09
                                                                  • 4668

                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • JR007
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                                                                    • 02-21-10
                                                                    • 5279

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                                                                    Solid post
                                                                    Goater is a quality poster , good shit man.
                                                                    glad someone thinks so
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                                                                    • BettingWizard
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                                                                      • 11-28-09
                                                                      • 6522

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Goat loses every single year

                                                                      If he wins this, he is pretty much guaranteed to be up for the year, no matter what happens in the Finals

                                                                      If he loses, he is buried for the year


                                                                      Hmm I wonder what the bet should be on?
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