This forum is officially GAY

[pavyracer]

If you like to post a beautiful picture of a voloptuous female showing her breasts is not allowed.

But talking about how you penetrate your 18 year old boyfriend in the ass and which lubricant works better is permitted.

[Iwinyourmoney]

Pavy, its like we are in San Fransico

unreal.

[The Seer]

bring back beautiful women and breasts

[pavyracer]

Unreal Iwinyourmoney. Can straight guys talk about women they like or is this considered inappropriate now?

[RogueScholar]

Once again Pavy you're the one bringing up those details, not I. I've toned that talk down to respect the sensibilities of the majority here.

[ritehook]

I personally don't much care about a poster's sex preferences (as a kid Herman Hesse was one of my favorite writers, didn't know he was gay until years later - and didn't care much when I found out) but to look at it strictly from a biz point of view, it has to be a huge worry for the SBR owners (whoever they may be!)

I'm long out of the age group that I call the HDGs (hot demographic group - 18-35 year olds) and usually skip the posts that I know issue from them - monosyllabic (more like a text message), personal, one-dimensional, as deep as the lid on a bottle of prescription Ritalin.

But as I know a bit about marketing I realize that this group - with all that "disposable" or discretionary income - is a bonanza for a sports book approved for an A rating and a banner ad.

But the essence of sports betting - the risk, the danger, the hunt, the shouts of victory - is the essence of primitive maleness, of male bonding (always heterosexual). The scent of testosterone is palpable in any Vegas sportsbook.

SBR was also exceptionally clever in luring females to the site. I think that started with sportsgirl, who used her contact with the American Idol online fans to bring some other ladies there, and that completed the trifecta. The male bettors could now act out the part and flirt and play macho games with (virtually) real live females! And bet too! Hot damn! (I believe to this day that Nancy was paid, maybe EOG offered her more money.)

But it the site becomes known as heavily gay, that will chase a lot of the straight male bettors away, esp the younger ones where guilt by association is considered gospel.

SBR is - pardon the expression - between a rock and a hard place. If they want the majority to remain here they have to permit them to post their sexy broad photos and tell of their real or imagined sexual adventures.

But they logically then cannot deny the same right to the gay posters, who, like the young HDGs, are also a highly desirable market segment -- usually well-heeled without those annoying little drains on one's income and lifestyle called children. It just that there are nowhere as many of the latter as the former. (I think most sexologists number the male homosexuals in Anglo-Saxon lands at about 2-3%, it may be a bit more or a bit less in other cultures.)

So, SBR in self-defence may soon bar any sexual photos or discussions. Or see their position on the top perch of sports gambling sites be threatened by an admirable but now maybe impractible laizzez-faire policy re posting.

[MilfDriller]

Goddamn, rite. You sound like a psychologist and a gynecologist.

Hell, that makes you a psycho-gynecologist.

To prove your point I think you and Rogue should go on a date to Nordstrom's and eat milky croissants together.

[RogueJuror]

ritehook, couldn't SBR spin the gay presence into a rebel-liberal angle, as in gamblers are rebels of society and free of preconceptions- free from the norm, just as gay are in regular communities? Sort of like brothers in arms for similar discrimative struggles.

[rookie]

ritehook, couldn't SBR spin the gay presence into a rebel-liberal angle, as in gamblers are rebels of society and free of preconceptions- free from the norm, just as gay are in regular communities? Sort of like brothers in arms for similar discrimative struggles.

Rebels of society? Do you see anything rebellious about people in the casinos ? Free of preconceptions ? It's that preconception that kills the gamblers. Now, it is applicable to winning sharps but they are rare.

[wtf]

great post ritehook, your spot on

but pavy has a point, i feel very uncomfortable hearing the details of "how" they do things

but rs has toned it down on that front, and i dont want him to leave the site

[Cloak & Dagger]

[ritehook]

ritehook, couldn't SBR spin the gay presence into a rebel-liberal angle, as in gamblers are rebels of society and free of preconceptions- free from the norm, just as gay are in regular communities? Sort of like brothers in arms for similar discrimative struggles.

Interesting but over-idealistic in the money-value-world of marketing.

I know that back in the 80s, when everyone was jumping out of the closet, a few companies (wasn't Absolut vodka one of them) made big profits by putting ads in gay publications, and securing very high brand loyalty from that market segment. But, they also advertised in Time, Newsweek, Playboy etc.

One hand didn't know what the other was doing. (Why the f does every phrase sound like a double-entendre when talking about sex subjects?) That isn't and can't be so on a forum like this, where interaction is the essence.

The only thing SBR can do now to save its high perch on the sportbetting site ladder is to open a separate section for gay sports bettors.

Yep, back to the ol' "separate but equal" deal . . .

[ritehook]

Goddamn, rite. You sound like a psychologist and a gynecologist.

Hell, that makes you a psycho-gynecologist.

To prove your point I think you and Rogue should go on a date to Nordstrom's and eat milky croissants together.

Well, to tell the truth, I did seriosly consider gynecology as a career choice. Takes the maxim "combining business with pleasure" to a whole different level.

But then there was the years of study, the cutting up of cadavers in damp basements, all that. And that you have to examine the love orifice not only of the hot young ones but the aged and dessicated. And all those female disorders . . .

I choose to live as a non-medical professional, so as to be free to pick and choose which vaginal tracts I preferred to investigate in greater depth . . .

[ritehook]

great post ritehook, your spot on

but pavy has a point, i feel very uncomfortable hearing the details of "how" they do things

but rs has toned it down on that front, and i dont want him to leave the site

Agree.

Others, tho, may not want to hear of how the heteros "do" it either. So in the spirit of harmony I'm going to try to find and delete a recent post I made about doing business years ago in a Nevada brothel . . .

Tho still think "separate but equal" may work, may appeal to both side. Like the Absolut vodka ads that appeared in both straight and gay magazines back in the day . . .

[ritehook]

With the non-sex topics from whoever appearing on the Main (mainstream) board

[pavyracer]

ritehook hit the nail on the head square. very unappreciated poster here always goes under the radar.

[HAPPY BOY]

Once Hank webber wipped out his 2'" cock the writing was on the wall.

[RogueScholar]

That was a delightful post, ritehook. I don't think you made a single statement that one could argue against. I personally would welcome a little less nudity and sex talk in the Players Talk forum. Not that I don't enjoy contributing to it, but I've found that it seems to distract from the actual socializing between posters. I like a good nudie post as much as the next guy, but I think that a double-standard is allowed to exist between posts relating to heterosexual versus homosexual activities.

I don't think SBR needs to go to the trouble of creating a separate Queer Bettors sub-forum, although if I'm able to encourage more of my fellows to join and become active that may indeed arise at a later time. The most obvious solution is to divert more of the photo-oriented posts, gay or straight, to the Private Zone, and perhaps re-energize that sub-forum by turning it into the Strip Club of SBR.

I realize that it currently serves that function, but with fairly lurid posts being allowed to remain in Players Talk, they tacitly encourage friction between gays and straights. When I visit PT and find 10 threads full of almost completely naked women, it compels me to make more blatantly homosexual posts just to avoid being drowned out in the noise of the crowd. By placing a heavy emphasis on socialization in PT, and shifting all posts of a purely sexual nature to the PZ, I think a good balance would be struck.

In conclusion, I'll say that I personally don't have a problem with the friction that's developed between myself and the ardent gay-bashers on the forum. I came out of the closet in Portland, Oregon, and for the most part it was a very easy and rewarding experience for me. If I need to work a little harder to forge some deference to my lifestyle in forum-ville, then I just consider it as back dues that I need to pay.

Thanks for all the thought-provoking material and something lengthy to reply to. You made me not feel so verbose today.

[Mudcat]

Sometimes I wish I was homosexual just so I could be open about it and hopefully make some homophobes squirm.

Homophobes are so gay. Not gay as in homosexual. Just GAY.

But I'm straight and there is nothing I can do about it.

I'll tell you the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw this thread title. The ten or so threads about voting for your favorite poster. Now that's what makes the forum seem gay.

Not gay as in homosexual. Just GAY.

[raiders72002]

Who are the pillow biters here? And what's the story with no pictures of women? I missed it but it doesn't sound right.

[pavyracer]

Who are the pillow biters here? And what's the story with no pictures of women? I missed it but it doesn't sound right.

Visit Private Zone raiders72002. You have the option of viewing a female picture that was rated offesnive and a male picture. Let us know which one you prefer.

[raiders72002]

Visit Private Zone raiders72002. You have the option of viewing a female picture that was rated offesnive and a male picture. Let us know which one you prefer.

very nice blonde Check out the one GG posted h. Tattp://forum.sbrforum.com/private-zone/132119-place-turning-into-porn-site-diverted.html

http://forum.sbrforum.com/private-zone/132119-place-turning-into-porn-site-diverted.html

[pavyracer]

This is wrong. Since when female breasts are offensive to guys.

[smitch124]

[daggerkobe]

Post a picture of and you'll get an infraction.

Post a picture of Hitler and you'll get a job offer.

[RogueScholar]

This is wrong. Since when female breasts are offensive to guys.

What's offensive is the fact that you cry like a baby when a naked man appears on the forum, and then you cry again when a naked female is moved to the Private Zone. Grow up, Pavy, and get a clue. You're just providing fodder to your critics, because no man married to a former beauty pageant winner would obsess this hard over nudie pictures posted on a forum. Why don't you go find a deer and shoot its eye out from 3,000 feet away? That's more believable than a gorgeous woman marrying someone like you.

[fiveteamer]

I got an infraction for posting a cock pic the other day.

[pavyracer]

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