USC getting hit late.

[SlickFazzer]

Jamaica

POINTSPREADS
12/08 11:37AM: +10 -105 / -10 -115
12/08 01:11PM: +10 -110 / -10 -110
12/16 06:44PM: +9 -110 / -9 -110
12/27 11:43PM: +8½ -110 / -8½ -110
12/29 02:53PM: +9 -110 / -9 -110
12/30 10:37PM: +8½ -110 / -8½ -110
12/31 11:36AM: +9 -110 / -9 -110
01/01 01:29PM: +10 -110 / -10 -110
01/01 01:30PM: +9½ -110 / -9½ -110
01/01 02:33PM: +9 -110 / -9 -110
01/01 02:34PM: +9½ -110 / -9½ -110
01/01 04:03PM: +10 -118 / -10 -102

[Panic]

When the bowl announcements came out, there were 2 games that most of us on here said should be big mis matches. And thats is Texas/Ohio St and USC/Penn St. I dont know why people are changing their minds. USC should kill Penn St. and they get to do it in their own backyard.

[bigboydan]

USC should kill Penn St.

I sure hope your right sir.

[SportsLockPicks]

this is all the public money hammering the popular play...don't be fooled

[Panic]

I sure hope your right sir.

They killed Ohio St by 32...the same Ohio St team that Penn St had problems with. And they did it in Cali, where they will play this game. I dont see how Penn St keeps it close. USC is wicked quick and should race right by them.

[ZBOIZ]

They killed Ohio St by 32...the same Ohio St team that Penn St had problems with. And they did it in Cali, where they will play this game. I dont see how Penn St keeps it close. USC is wicked quick and should race right by them.

And Penn State killed Oregon State the same team USC lost to

[Panic]

And Penn State killed Oregon State the same team USC lost to

This is basically a home game for USC. They have not lost all year in Cali. Your talking about a Penn St. team that squeezed by Iowa by 1 point and by Ohio St. by 7 and by Illini by 14. This is not a dominant team. Outside of that lose to oregon St....USC next closest margin was when they beat #21 California by 14.

[Tsoprano]

USC -9 for me

[jjgold]

Tony loves Favs

I have no clue anymore who is going to win, I have zero confidence.

[Chi_archie]

They killed Ohio St by 32...the same Ohio St team that Penn St had problems with. And they did it in Cali, where they will play this game. I dont see how Penn St keeps it close. USC is wicked quick and should race right by them.

very square argument for many reasons..

so long ago...first of all... heck bowl season is closer to the 09 season then it is the 08 alone..without going back to sept games

if you wanna go back to sept games and use that logic, you have to include psu's slaughter to Oregon st., which turned around and beat USC


and osu/psu big ten game in osu is a whole different kind of fb game then a pac 10 matchup of pac-10/big ten matchup.... apples to oranges can't compare those type of games.... not alot of big ten blow-outs.. especially with joe pa's play calling in big games

finally, that OSU game was in USC and OSU still had a crappy qb, no T-Prior yet and their best player Beanie Wells didn't play.


USC may run away with this... but your logic is a bit flawed for why

[bigboydan]

They killed Ohio St by 32...the same Ohio St team that Penn St had problems with. And they did it in Cali, where they will play this game. I dont see how Penn St keeps it close. USC is wicked quick and should race right by them.

They can't keep this game close at all IMO. I mean USC goes 3 deep in every position and those 3rd stringers would be starting on any other team in college football.

[Panic]

very square argument for many reasons..

so long ago...first of all... heck bowl season is closer to the 09 season then it is the 08 alone..without going back to sept games

if you wanna go back to sept games and use that logic, you have to include psu's slaughter to Oregon st., which turned around and beat USC


and osu/psu big ten game in osu is a whole different kind of fb game then a pac 10 matchup of pac-10/big ten matchup.... apples to oranges can't compare those type of games.... not alot of big ten blow-outs.. especially with joe pa's play calling in big games

finally, that OSU game was in USC and OSU still had a crappy qb, no T-Prior yet and their best player Beanie Wells didn't play.


USC may run away with this... but your logic is a bit flawed for why

Not flawed at all nor squarish. Sorry, buddy. I am backing up what i am saying and telling you they have not lost in Cali. You tell me why Penn St will cover.

[pavyracer]

Thou shall have faith in papa Joe Pa.

[Panic]

Thou shall have faith in papa Joe Pa.

Pete Carroll's not to bad when it comes to Bowl games either.

[treece]

SC will get it done They're just bigger, stronger and more talented. It'll be like alot like the Ohio State game earlier. A USC Blowout.

[Chi_archie]

This is basically a home game for USC. They have not lost all year in Cali. Your talking about a Penn St. team that squeezed by Iowa by 1 point and by Ohio St. by 7 and by Illini by 14. This is not a dominant team. Outside of that lose to oregon St....USC next closest margin was when they beat #21 California by 14.

don't forget that arizona game 17-10

would arizona -3 be the line for a psu vs zona game?>

not that it matters, this is not how you cap games... looking at games and margins of victory in sept/oct is SQUARE.


don't think anyone should be confident about ANYTHING in this game...

only slight slight edge for being in cali.... not a HOME crowd really... PSU backers travel as well as any team in the country...

i'm just saying don't bet this based on the ohio state angle...or the home angle....

and you haven't watched psu if you don't think they have speed and depth...

angles to play usc here might be.... size of usc's wr vs psu db's...

PSU struggles offensively and sputters alot against good defenses

gl though friend... I can't wait to watch this one though

[Panic]

don't forget that arizona game 17-10

would arizona -3 be the line for a psu vs zona game?>

not that it matters, this is not how you cap games... looking at games and margins of victory in sept/oct is SQUARE.


don't think anyone should be confident about ANYTHING in this game...

only slight slight edge for being in cali.... not a HOME crowd really... PSU backers travel as well as any team in the country...

i'm just saying don't bet this based on the ohio state angle...or the home angle....

and you haven't watched psu if you don't think they have speed and depth...

angles to play usc here might be.... size of usc's wr vs psu db's...

PSU struggles offensively and sputters alot against good defenses

gl though friend... I can't wait to watch this one though

Looking at margin of victory is square? lol. Where did you get that from? If team A is crushing people in sept/oct you should neglect that? When then I guess my squarish ways arent to bad since I've been gambling for the better part of 20 years and still rollin' along. gl to ya.

[FreeFall]

this is all the public money hammering the popular play...don't be fooled

seriously especially from the LA area. You should watch big laker games before tip off. The public can do crazy things with there home team lines down there. Just better numbers for the smart people on penn + points.

[Chi_archie]

Looking at margin of victory is square? lol. Where did you get that from? If team A is crushing people in sept/oct you should neglect that? When then I guess my squarish ways arent to bad since I've been gambling for the better part of 20 years and still rollin' along. gl to ya.

didn't mean to ruffle your feathers panic.... I mean no disrespect, and I respect your experience... there is no one way or right way... Or might not be ANY right way to cap college fb....

but, I just have always found comparing games from early season and common opponents like the transitive property ( usc>ohio st=psue) ect... to be just as reliable as flipping a coin

gotta look at individual matchups as best you can... and only a select few in the world REALLY have the kind of knowledge to do that well.... there are small edges at most positions and areas in this game for usc imo.... but not enough to overcome X factors like turnovers, specieal teams, fluke plays ect..

this game being close or a blowout prob will be decided by a handful of BIG plays... a 75 yard catch and run, a kick return, int return ect.


don't think we'll see USC outgain PSU 500-250 in total yards or anything....

[Panic]

didn't mean to ruffle your feathers panic.... I mean no disrespect, and I respect your experience... there is no one way or right way... Or might not be ANY right way to cap college fb....

but, I just have always found comparing games from early season and common opponents like the transitive property ( usc>ohio st=psue) ect... to be just as reliable as flipping a coin

gotta look at individual matchups as best you can... and only a select few in the world REALLY have the kind of knowledge to do that well.... there are small edges at most positions and areas in this game for usc imo.... but not enough to overcome X factors like turnovers, specieal teams, fluke plays ect..

this game being close or a blowout prob will be decided by a handful of BIG plays... a 75 yard catch and run, a kick return, int return ect.


don't think we'll see USC outgain PSU 500-250 in total yards or anything....

Its all good. Didnt really ruffle my feathes, its just, I've always found it funny when people call others squares or sharps. If someone is a "square" but showing profit from gambling, while a "sharp" is losing. I'll gladly be a "square". I just never understood why the necessity to label players. Gambling has shown that it will kick the shit out of most everyone it runs across, "square or sharp". Thats all. No harm, Chi. Gl to you, hopefully it will be a good game.

[Chi_archie]

right... not labeling you... just the play.... maybe I misused square there...

I mean alot of "sharps" can make square plays... and squares make "sharp" plays..... its what matters long term...... and i'm new to thism, and prob down like 1% or maybe up a tad for the year if you include today.... but my % is prob below 50% i've just hit some big winners and chased with good luck.....


panic... under or over pal?

under was the only thing I leaned..but then decided too many playmakers in this game to bet the under

[Panic]

right... not labeling you... just the play.... maybe I misused square there...

I mean alot of "sharps" can make square plays... and squares make "sharp" plays..... its what matters long term...... and i'm new to thism, and prob down like 1% or maybe up a tad for the year if you include today.... but my % is prob below 50% i've just hit some big winners and chased with good luck.....


panic... under or over pal?

under was the only thing I leaned..but then decided too many playmakers in this game to bet the under

I like the Under as well and it looks like we are all going down if it goes Over. I havent seen a poster yet who has the Over.

[Chi_archie]

great game thus far../

[AdaBarber]

I'm not watching the game. Any thoughts on the second half? I need to make a play. What the D looking like? I think Penn
St will keep it close. I like the under for the half.

[Chi_archie]

I'm not watching the game. Any thoughts on the second half? I need to make a play. What the D looking like? I think Penn
St will keep it close. I like the under for the half.

too hard to tell... i would stay away if I were you...

USC should win, but who knows what happens...

D looks great..but has been great playing calling and more then enogh big plays.... to negate that..

[AdaBarber]

Okay. Thanks. I will wait on VA Tech. Damn I gotta go home. At my Aunt's home and they are watching fvcking Oxygen. They name a network after the shlt I breath and it is choking the shlt outta me. LOL

[Tsoprano]

Tony loves Favs

I have no clue anymore who is going to win, I have zero confidence.

Take Vtech tonight

So far 3-2 with USC pending.

Would be nice to start the New Year off 5-2

[Panic]

seriously especially from the LA area. You should watch big laker games before tip off. The public can do crazy things with there home team lines down there. Just better numbers for the smart people on penn + points.

You need help, buddy. Smart people knew USC was gonna cruise. Penn St is way overmatched. The only way you cover is if USC takes their foot off the pedal.