Overall Pretty Solid Year For Philosophy Picks!

[VegasDave]

My best year since starting these in 2005
2005: 27 - 13 - 1 (.675)
2006: 24 - 22 - 2 (.522)
2007: 14 - 7 - 2 (.667)
2008: 25 - 11 - 0 (.694)

Hope you guys tailed me on a few of these this year!

Lets get'em in the playoffs!

[element1286]

Nice work Dave.

[betplom]

My best year since starting these in 2005

Lets get'em in the playoffs!

Davey, how about some hockey writeups?

[bettilimbroke999]

Good job Davey just think how much better it would be if you bet the games, pocketfuls of cash, easymoney

[flyingillini]

I have a feeling he does bet them, but says he doesn't. Who cares though if he does or doesn't.

[bettilimbroke999]

Doubtful illini, Vegas Dave is much too sensitive to be a degenerate gambler, very likely hed slash his wrists the first time he lost a bet, degen gamblers are desensitized, we've been kicked in the nuts so many hundreds of times it doesn't even matter anymore

[flyingillini]

Doubtful illini, Vegas Dave is much too sensitive to be a degenerate gambler, very likely hed slash his wrists the first time he lost a bet, degen gamblers are desensitized, we've been kicked in the nuts so many hundreds of times it doesn't even matter anymore

You are right, what was I thinking. I just said that because he really gets into it when he wins. If no money is on the line what the hell is the big deal ya know? You are right though...

[VegasDave]

I bet when I have the money to. I think by next season I will have a bit more income and will be able to bet these games .

I'm improving in pro (learned a LOT this year, thats why I cap) and am getting pretty confident, baseball and hockey I'm pretty solid in... definitely need work on college, but you can't become a great capper overnight. Very excited about narrowing my focus to 3 conferences.

By the time I do have money to bet with, hopefully I'll be decent enough to turn a little profit

[bettilimbroke999]

Sounds good Dave, I hope you are successful. If you get dropkicked in the nuts on a 3 pt with a sec left I just hope you dont snap

[VegasDave]

Sounds good Dave, I hope you are successful. If you get dropkicked in the nuts on a 3 pt with a sec left I just hope you dont snap

Thanks man. I think I'll be okay. When I have money, losing $20 or $50 won't be a HUGE CHUNK of my bankroll like it is now

[Chi_archie]

Davey good times? have you decided what conferences you are gonna wager on next year? I recommend

Big Ten
Sec
big 12

i think the big ten is the most predictable though

[VegasDave]

SEC? You are crazy! Good luck if you can figure that conference out.

I'm going to go with the Big 12, Pac-10, and Conference USA.

[Tsoprano]

Good stuff Dave.

[InTheHole]

[VegasDave]

Good stuff Dave.

Thank you guys

Can't wait for the playoffs!

[curious]

I bet when I have the money to. I think by next season I will have a bit more income and will be able to bet these games .

I'm improving in pro (learned a LOT this year, thats why I cap) and am getting pretty confident, baseball and hockey I'm pretty solid in... definitely need work on college, but you can't become a great capper overnight. Very excited about narrowing my focus to 3 conferences.

By the time I do have money to bet with, hopefully I'll be decent enough to turn a little profit

So why don't you find a backer? I'm not sure what a philosophy pick is but if you can consistently pick winners at a pace > .600 it would be easy to find investors to back you. I know I would do it.

[VegasDave]

So why don't you find a backer? I'm not sure what a philosophy pick is but if you can consistently pick winners at a pace > .600 it would be easy to find investors to back you. I know I would do it.

I never really considered it for a few reasons.

This is only the first year I've posted my philosophy picks here on SBR, so my record over the last 3 years I wouldn't have any hard evidence of (just my word and my newsletter archives), so potential backers would likely assume I was lying (If someone came to you and said hey, I've got a system I've been hitting 60% with over the last 3 seasons, will you back me? You'd probably be very suspicious, and rightfully so.)

Also, even if you did believe me, coming into this year I was 65 - 42 - 5... 60.7% is awesome, but with a sample size of only 112 games, it hasn't truly passed the test of time just yet.

But as I said, hopefully I'll have my own money next year to bet these... and will continue to post them for the SBR community and hopefully have continued success with them

[pavyracer]

You are hitting .544 combined assuming each play is one unit. This is not good for gambling. Don't quit your daily job. When you hit .600 or better for the year then start gambling.

[VegasDave]

You are hitting .544 combined assuming each play is one unit. This is not good for gambling. Don't quit your daily job. When you hit .600 or better for the year then start gambling.

You can't combine philosophy plays to my season mark, they are already included. And assuming each play is one unit is way off.

Why does everyone assume that the fact that I pick every game means I'd bet every game? I write an editorial newsletter every week that breaks down every single game against the spread. EVERY GAME, not just best bets. That was my season record.

My best bets (philosophy picks) were 25 - 11 this year.

Obviously I would have bet more than just 36 games, but I certainly wouldn't have bet all 256 played this year.

[pavyracer]

You got to be kidding. What's the purpose of the record if we don't know how much money is bet on each game. Someone can come here and say they are 39-125 but their 39 wins where for $1000 each and the 125 losses were for $10. Without knowing how much money you bet on each game the record is pointless.

[VegasDave]

You got to be kidding. What's the purpose of the record if we don't know how much money is bet on each game. Someone can come here and say they are 39-125 but their 39 wins where for $1000 each and the 125 losses were for $10. Without knowing how much money you bet on each game the record is pointless.

Yes, I've come to realize this. Next year I'll have a "what I bet" section and keep track in units.

I've been doing the newsletter for 4 years and the format of picking every game ATS has been fine and it has just been accepted for what it is. Some people pay for "sheets" that break down every game. I just send out and post my write ups for free.

Some people accept this for what it is. Many, like yourself, only want to see best bets and units. Hopefully next year I can make both crowds happy.

[pavyracer]

[bettilimbroke999]

Thou stole my picks!

[curious]

I never really considered it for a few reasons.

This is only the first year I've posted my philosophy picks here on SBR, so my record over the last 3 years I wouldn't have any hard evidence of (just my word and my newsletter archives), so potential backers would likely assume I was lying (If someone came to you and said hey, I've got a system I've been hitting 60% with over the last 3 seasons, will you back me? You'd probably be very suspicious, and rightfully so.)

Also, even if you did believe me, coming into this year I was 65 - 42 - 5... 60.7% is awesome, but with a sample size of only 112 games, it hasn't truly passed the test of time just yet.

But as I said, hopefully I'll have my own money next year to bet these... and will continue to post them for the SBR community and hopefully have continued success with them

Dude, you don't need evidence that will stand up in court. The idiots on here who are always demanding evidence like that don't even bet, most of them are teenagers. If you have a good idea and can show that it works on paper and can show something to show you have been tracking it, someone would back you. They might not put a lot of money into it at first, but it wouldn't be that hard to find some small backing. Anyone who is looking for a "guarantee" is not serious and doesn't have any money. There are no guarantees.

Anyway, you obviously want to do this by yourself. So GOOD LUCK

[RogueJuror]

Nice job Dave.

[james4512]

You got to be kidding. What's the purpose of the record if we don't know how much money is bet on each game. Someone can come here and say they are 39-125 but their 39 wins where for $1000 each and the 125 losses were for $10. Without knowing how much money you bet on each game the record is pointless.

yep great point. In my large unit plays i was 9-2 i should have been 11-0 Wisconsin was up 19-0 at half vs michigan and texas tech got an extra point blocked and returned vs texas am when i was covering before the extra point.

[VegasDave]

Dude, you don't need evidence that will stand up in court. The idiots on here who are always demanding evidence like that don't even bet, most of them are teenagers. If you have a good idea and can show that it works on paper and can show something to show you have been tracking it, someone would back you. They might not put a lot of money into it at first, but it wouldn't be that hard to find some small backing. Anyone who is looking for a "guarantee" is not serious and doesn't have any money. There are no guarantees.

Anyway, you obviously want to do this by yourself. So GOOD LUCK

I just never gave it serious consideration, but you do bring up some valid points.

Thanks for the well wishes, good to have you back on the forum, don't let the haters get you down

[bettilimbroke999]

Vegas if you're confident you can hit over 60% (which u cant but this is just for the hypothetical) then deposit 300 (title loan ur car or borrow it from mom/dad) and get to work ull be doubling it and repayin the loan in no time of course if u go 53% or less the decision will not be too great

[VegasDave]

Vegas if you're confident you can hit over 60% (which u cant but this is just for the hypothetical) then deposit 300 (title loan ur car or borrow it from mom/dad) and get to work ull be doubling it and repayin the loan in no time of course if u go 53% or less the decision will not be too great

I can't hit anywhere close to 60% overall... just on these plays.

Needless to say, if I'd have known I'd hit about 70% on them this year, I WOULD have taken out a loan. Don't you wish we knew which games were going to win before the season started

[flyingillini]

Davey, curious question have you ever been in a real fight? Not on the internet and not as a toddler, but as a grown adult? I have a $100.00 wager on this with another poster. Please be honest here. I am not going to say which way I bet but we need to know. Thanks buddy

[VegasDave]

Davey, curious question have you ever been in a real fight? Not on the internet and not as a toddler, but as a grown adult? I have a $100.00 wager on this with another poster. Please be honest here. I am not going to say which way I bet but we need to know. Thanks buddy

$100? You must be very bored.

I haven't been. Well, I assume you are talking about a fist fight? I wrestled in high school and got close a few times in college, but nothing ever came of it. I'm not an instigator, and I'm too big for anyone to bother starting anything with me.

[tacomax]

flyingillini - send me the money by ** - thanks, pal.