All aboard the Dallas bandwagon?

[CaneDawg]

like the cowboys

but like the other texas team better


lets go texans

[SBR Lou]

like the cowboys

but like the other texas team better

lets go texans

Exactly.

A few Eagles might go full throttle, but how about the guys that are unrestricted free agents after this season is over (and technically in all likelihood at the start of the game it WILL be for Philly)- they don't give a rats ass about the division rivalry.

[hoopster42]

Exactly.

A few Eagles might go full throttle, but how about the guys that are unrestricted free agents after this season is over (and technically in all likelihood at the start of the game it WILL be for Philly)- they don't give a rats ass about the division rivalry.

but they do care about signing huge offseason contracts so this game does matter in that sense. if future nfl teams that are looking at them are serious then this game will matter. max effort in the nfl is taken seriously. you guys are missing the pt on this game and spinning everything your way in a very weak attempt to support your side

[SBR Lou]

but they do care about signing huge offseason contracts so this game does matter in that sense. if future nfl teams that are looking at them are serious then this game will matter. max effort in the nfl is taken seriously.

Wrong. Guys at skill positions that would figure to command huge money this offseason are still getting it regardless of what they do in a week 17 when their season is already over.

Guys that are rotation players or players that wouldn't start of course will want to do a little stat padding as usual, bottom line is 100% of Dallas is in this game and we can't say the same for Philly.

[MrMonkey]

A FOREVER EAGLES FAN who believes Dallas will win game today. Ashamed to say it but if Tampa wins today (like that's not going to Happen!!!)_I hope the Birds lose.

Total yards difference (+-Off-Def) at the end of the year almost always shows playoff teams to going home for the winter teams.
Philly is 8th & 3rd in those catagories right now. Last year they were in the top ten in both also. No postseason!!!

What does this tell me? #1 Coach not getting the most (wins) of his team's total production meaning #2 Coach being a less than average game day decision maker.

Andy Reid is one of the best Monday to Sunday 1PM preparations coach around. After 1Pm he is in a fog!! They lost to Dallas, Bears, 1st Redskins game, Cincy tie, all possible wins with better coaching decisions. Not one win was undeserved. Forget about running the ball more just to balance things out. In my opinion what does passing the ball almost 70% of the time really do. It keeps the defense out on the field too long and tires them out late in games? 1st Giants games 39-21 min. 1st Wash. game 35-25!

If your like me waiting for next Sat. & Sun. and the enjoyment of seeing your team in the playoffs (even if its one and done) this is not a HAPPY time for me! Yes, things could be alot worse with another coach, but I would like to see Reid go. His know-it-all attitude sucks! Philly is a special sports town, the fans for the most part know what's going on!

But Jeff Laurie is so cheap unless another team will pay Reid he isn't going anywhere! Mike Lewis (49er) didn't accept Eagles lowball offer couple years ago, so what do they do in the middle of the year, put Sean Considene in because he was better and they said Lewis couldn't cover receivers anymore adequately? Guess what, Lewis has been starting SS since then for 49ers and Considene has been special teamer? Oh by the way, Considene all by himself screwed 2007 by letting receiver get behind him in the end zone on last play of game from 15 yard line in Bears game! The only time I saw him this year in coverage was when T.O. left his athletic supporter on field in Dallas! You'll probably see that highlight before today's game.

Sorry about this, but I feel alot better now. Thanks!!! By the way HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!! ***k me and ***k Jimmy Johnson!

Mr Monkey

Going to church now to pray for miracle. Tampa lost and either Minny or Bears lost.

[VegasDave]

I have no problem with you being on Dallas Lou, there definitely are good reasons. But your logic that "Dallas cares a lot more and the Eagles will be eliminated from the playoffs so Dallas will win" is flawed in my opinion.

Teams needing wins VS. Teams out of the playoffs/nothing to play for:

Week 15 (Teams needing wins 2 - 6 ATS):

Kansas City covers over SD
Detroit covers over Indianapolis
Cincinnati beats Washington
Houston beats Tennessee (trying to clinch home field)
Buffalo covers over NYJ
San Francisco covers over Miami
Cleveland does not cover VS. Philadelphia
Oakland does not cover VS. New England

Week 16 (Teams needing wins ATS 2 - 4):

Buffalo beats Denver
Seattle beats New York Jets
Washington beats Philadelphia
Green Bay covers over Chicago
Jacksonville does not cover VS. Indianapolis
Kansas City does not cover VS. Miami

Thats Teams that need wins: 4 - 10 ATS.

If you believe that Dallas is the better team, by all means, bet them. But this time of year, teams with "nothing to play for" always seem to still play these games tough. And its at home, and its a hated division rival.

Good luck this week.

[Kingctb27]

Dallas for me.

[SBR Lou]

If you believe that Dallas is the better team, by all means, bet them. But this time of year, teams with "nothing to play for" always seem to still play these games tough. And its at home, and its a hated division rival.

Good luck this week.

Those are intangibles, division rival, blah blah.

How much do unrestricted FA's care about the division rivalry? Sure there are some proud Eagles not wanting to be a doormat for Dallas' entry into the playoffs, but the point is we can't say with certainty that every Eagle will play with the same sense of urgency and perseverance they would if they were fightin' for their playoff lives. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

I personally think Dallas would beat their ass down even if both were alive, the extra stuff and the line just makes the decision easier.

[VegasDave]

Those are intangibles, division rival, blah blah.

How much do unrestricted FA's care about the division rivalry? Sure there are some proud Eagles not wanting to be a doormat for Dallas' entry into the playoffs, but the point is we can't say with certainty that every Eagle will play with the same sense of urgency and perseverance they would if they were fightin' for their playoff lives. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

Of course we can't say with any certainty, but thats why I listed the games above. Lots of unrestricted free agents on those 10 teams that shouldn't have cared but showed up and covered against teams that were playing with a ton more motivation. I agree Maybe they will/maybe they won't, and that we can't know for sure. But if I were you, I'd assume they were going to show up, not that they wouldn't.

I personally think Dallas would beat their ass down even if both were alive, the extra stuff and the line just makes the decision easier.

Discussion over then. Quit defending your stance that Philly won't be trying and just be happy you are on the better team at a great price.

[MrMonkey]

Guys, Philly D will show up no matter what!!! Reid and Mcnabb, that could be another story? To me game decided by one guy, ROMO. To me Dallas has too much O talent to lose if Romo plays above average. Vegas Dave your exactly right, Dallas +1 is great value! This being said from Eagles' fan.

MrMonkey

[Seattle Slew]

I'll take Romo and Phillips over Reid and McNabb (and don't forget dope Marty Morningway). But only because I have to pick someone.

eagles game vs wash was on the road, yes they tanked. so you trust romo on the road in a big game more than you trust the eagles desire to play spoiler tomorrow?

shoot yourself, i mean, suit yourself.

[cweh]

I ****en hate the cowgirls... opps I mean cowboys, that said!

Put me down for Cowboys 23 - Philly 17

[SBR Lou]

Got some work to do big D. Came up with a nice sack to end Eagles last drive.

I thought their playcalling was real creative the 2nd drive but that 3rd and 1 in the redzone was a tad questionable. I can live with it though.

[hoopster42]

Those are intangibles, division rival, blah blah.

How much do unrestricted FA's care about the division rivalry? Sure there are some proud Eagles not wanting to be a doormat for Dallas' entry into the playoffs, but the point is we can't say with certainty that every Eagle will play with the same sense of urgency and perseverance they would if they were fightin' for their playoff lives. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

I personally think Dallas would beat their ass down even if both were alive, the extra stuff and the line just makes the decision easier.

well, both teams are alive since tampa shit the bed and all i know is that dallas's offense looks like horse crap the first quarter and a half, but i'm not surprised one bit as all of my posts pre-kickoff will attest

[hoopster42]

still cant believe there was so much love for dallas after the shit they showed last week at home vs baltimore. the ravens are nothing special on offense but dallas's D sure made them look special, starting to wonder if some of you even watch the games

[flyingillini]

Game over

[bamasman47]

Who's wants see philly in the playoffs, that team's garbage and won't be a threat to anyone. I'm rooting hard for Dallas here. T.O and all the hoopla alone is worth the price of admission to watch Dallas in the playoffs.

[VegasDave]

I'm pretty sure at 41 - 3 the whole "Dallas would have won if Tampa Bay had won" argument is kind of thrown out the window?

[SBR Lou]

Oops. I couldn't have been more wrong with my predictions here.

Congrats to Philly backers!

[VegasDave]

Oops. I couldn't have been more wrong with my predictions here.

Congrats to Philly backers!

You'll get 'em back in the playoffs Lou... Dallas won't be around for you to talk yourself into anymore

[Tsoprano]

CrazyLou, please check your private messages.

Thanks

[hoopster42]

Oops. I couldn't have been more wrong with my predictions here.

Congrats to Philly backers!

you are a winner becoz you dont make excuses when you lose. it is clear that philly was the right side and you admit it. i'm just a little surprised that so many ppl conveniently ignored the home loss to balt last wk where the cowgirl D looked like shit. letting baltimore punk you like that at home is less forgiveable than phillys loss at washington

[The Seer]

Oops. I couldn't have been more wrong with my predictions here.

Congrats to Philly backers!

me too but that is why i don't bet alot of game lines and make mine on qtrs and halves

[danrman]

now this was a fun thread to read... talk about a bunch of stupid statements by people that dont know what the fuk was going to happen... turning their back on loyalty and everything else.. typical human beings running their mouth

[SBR Lou]

you are a winner becoz you dont make excuses when you lose. it is clear that philly was the right side and you admit it. i'm just a little surprised that so many ppl conveniently ignored the home loss to balt last wk where the cowgirl D looked like shit. letting baltimore punk you like that at home is less forgiveable than phillys loss at washington

Dallas ran into a freight train here. Philly never let the momentum they gained go. The only drive I was impressed with from Dallas was their second.

While I think more people than Romo are at fault here, including but not limited to, Wade Phillips, Roy Williams, Jason Garret, Tony still failed to show up in the month of December and this game was meaningful enough to Dallas to count as another playoff choke for his already embarrassing winter resume.

[hoopster42]

now this was a fun thread to read... talk about a bunch of stupid statements by people that dont know what the fuk was going to happen... turning their back on loyalty and everything else.. typical human beings running their mouth

about the best you can ever get in a huge sample of sports bets, say 1000 samples or so, is about 54%. i believed, 100% in my mind, based on my capping, that philly was at worst a 54% likely winner based on all of the criteria i cap, that is many many pieces of info

[hoopster42]

the compelling thing is that i just knew that philly was gona come to play, dont ever underestimate the rivalry factor, home field, reid and mcnabb as coach and qb who have been to 4 nfc championship gms together, oh, and some piece o shit named t.o. on dallas that other teams love to beat

watch what happens over the next several days after this game, t.o. is gona have another meltdown and throw his qb under the bus (again)

[Skanless1]

maybe TO will do all of us a favor, and for once, throw HIMSELF under a bus (literally).

[Dark Horse]

now this was a fun thread to read... talk about a bunch of stupid statements by people that dont know what the fuk was going to happen... turning their back on loyalty and everything else.. typical human beings running their mouth

You are correct. This forum has become a joke. It is also very busy. What better combination to attract advertising books?

The paradox with SBR is that they look out for bettors where it comes to books treating them fairly, yet look out for books where it comes to locating their ideal target audience.

SBR could have made the choice to make this a very sharp forum. But a conscious decision was made not to do so. SBR John wanted a 'JJ Gold' type of forum.

There is nothing wrong with this market model. But it could be a problem if you let yourself be influenced by all the idiots that post here. There was a time when the label 'SBR moderator' guaranteed a certain quality. No longer so, my friends.

Again, SBR is about:
- helping the players to find good books
- helping those books to find good (i.e. losing) players.

Do not, for one moment, assume that there is one ounce of loyalty towards players in this market model.


Edit - For a long time I was mesmerized by how SBR was helping all these players against 'evil' books. And I failed to notice how they moved towards the middle. In this middle the good karma of helping players and the bad karma of attracting squares to books are in balance.
Did they sell out? I have no idea. All I know is that this is not the same SBR as three years ago.

[xyzky]

Agreed Dark Horse, this site is full of posers who want to throw out some bull shit side and get the equal action for some or all of the books. I was apparent that Eagles were the play today, it made the most since and the sharps were on this. There is nothing backing up the play or Romo or Dallas in tight spots...

[bamasman47]

maybe TO will do all of us a favor, and for once, throw HIMSELF under a bus (literally).

You are right on bro!

[Skanless1]

You are correct. This forum has become a joke. It is also very busy. What better combination to attract advertising books?

The paradox with SBR is that they look out for bettors where it comes to books treating them fairly, yet look out for books where it comes to locating their ideal target audience.

SBR could have made the choice to make this a very sharp forum. But a conscious decision was made not to do so. SBR John wanted a 'JJ Gold' type of forum.

There is nothing wrong with this market model. But it could be a problem if you let yourself be influenced by all the idiots that post here. There was a time when the label 'SBR moderator' guaranteed a certain quality. No longer so, my friends.

Again, SBR is about:
- helping the players to find good books
- helping those books to find good (i.e. losing) players.

Do not, for one moment, assume that there is one ounce of loyalty towards players in this market model.


Edit - For a long time I was mesmerized by how SBR was helping all these players against 'evil' books. And I failed to notice how they moved towards the middle. In this middle the good karma of helping players and the bad karma of attracting squares to books are in balance.
Did they sell out? I have no idea. All I know is that this is not the same SBR as three years ago.

hey Darkhorse, check your PM.