SBR Best Bet thread complaint/discussion

[Capybara]

Maybe I just woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, sorry... but had to b*tch, because it bugs me when Pico goes to 12-1-0 and passes me, when ALL his picks are -5000, -3000, -10000 plays, which no one would ACTUALLY bet with their real money. Seems to defeat the spirit of the game. I know it's just for fun, but it's still a fun competition and this really taints the spirit of it to me.

I have gone 12-2-2 so far with not a single price above -120!!! I treat it like real bets. In fact I actually MAKE all of mine, I thought that was the idea of it, a contest of your actual best bets -- so it just seems unfair to me, that's all.

Do people agree and want to limit the bet prices allowable, or does no one really care? Why can't we just make a limit of -1000 or -800 or something?

By the way, Pico, no personal offense intended, you seem like a cool Dude, and major props for Maria Ozawa in your avatar.

And yes, I know the Wiz could have won that game last night and put him in last place, but they didn't, and anyone could clearly just keep winning every night with these bets.

Thanks for listening, Capy out.

[Casperwaits]

Capy, I hear what you are saying, and since this contest is just for run and not real money, I think we should accept Pico for his crazy favorite picks and laugh. I mean last night Washington almost won, and that would have been the end of the Rosco Pico Train!! Besides, at the end of the day, the people in this contest know how Pico handicaps. I had no $ on that Wash/Cleve game last night, but was sure rooting hard for Wash. to win just because I wanted to read the reaction on today's forum if Pico had lost...lol. Without his pick, I would not have been so inclined to do so.

[jjgold]

That is why I do not play contests

Too many clowns In them

[JBC77]

I think Pico has actually bet some of those monster chalk lines. Since it's for fun, does it really matter what anyone plays?

I do agree though that a best bet of the day, should be a wager that the poster actually plays. I'm not sure if people are actually tailing these plays so you may be nit picking a little here.

[Richkas]

anyone could clearly just keep winning every night with these bets.

Are you saying with a 20k bankroll people could bet like this and win?

Not that easy. You have to spot play the chalk.

[BeatTheJerk]

Are we gonna continue this thread into the New Year guys ? and if we do are we gonna just continue on with our "08" records and untis ???????????????

[Capybara]

Are we gonna continue this thread into the New Year guys ? and if we do are we gonna just continue on with our "08" records and untis ???????????????

Sup, BTJ? Yeah, why wouldn't we?

[ryanXL977]

pico is going to lose one of these days and he will be 20-2 -4995 so dont worry

[SlicWilly3]

Yeah I mentioned this same thing a few times.....My belief is if your NOT going to bet it in "real life" than you shouldn't have it as "your best bet".
I find it hard to believe that any of these guys are betting -5000 fav's on a consistent basis.
We should set a limit at -1000........And imo Pico should start from scratch. The guy's 12-1 or something tlike that......And almost all of his "winning bets" are ridiculous m/l fav's......It just takes away from the point of the best bet thread......
I personally don't really care about calling out the guy because this has been stated to him a few times and he continues to just take ridiculous fav's.......
But as Ryan said his day will probably come.......but whatever, maybe I woke up on the wrong side of the bed too
I just have zero respect for someone that picks like that......It's just ridiculous to even have him in the top 10 like he's actually doing good or something???
I as some people actually like to follow some of the people that do well in this this thread.....

[Richkas]

Are we gonna continue this thread into the New Year guys ? and if we do are we gonna just continue on with our "08" records and untis ???????????????

I think we should start from scratch at the beginning of the New Year. Ill start a poll.

I dont know how to start a poll u do it BTJ.

[Richkas]

Better yet I will start a new POD contest Jan 1st and grade it everyday myself. No moneyline fav's OVER -200. No cap on dog M/L.

If anybody will pick up a day or 2 grading every now and then it would be appreciated.

[capitalist pig]

Here are the original rules from one year ago, I think that they should be implemented again, either with the current contest or if a new one is started. Rule # 3 should be followed IMO with no exceptions.

Why start over, the whole point is to see long term results, not just because some folks go on bad streaks and quit.

later

The SBR BEST BET Thread For Tuesday! Jan 27th 2008
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Post ONE best bet...multiple bets will result in no action.

Please post your record along with your pick.

1) Grading will not just be win/loss but I will also include UNITS won/lost along with your record.

For example: A -186 loser will be reflected as 0-1 -1.86 and a +186 winner will be reflected as 1-0 +1.86.

2) From here on out I will need you to post your juice along with the play.

So that means you should be posting Cavs -1 -108 or Nuggets +3 -110, etc.

If you do NOT leave the juice along with your play I will grade it as -110. So if you post Cavs -1 and they lose, your grade will be 0-1 -1.10

3) Moneyline Favorites will be allowed for BASEBALL, SOCCER, TENNIS and HOCKEY; But not for Basketball and Football. For those sports you will have to use ATS plays. If you don't I will not grade it.

Moneyline underdogs are always allowed for every sport and the units won will be reflected in your record.

4) SECOND HALF PLAYS are NOT allowed.

5) Please try to post ROTATION numbers as well.

6) If you don't list pitchers, I will grade your play as an action wager.
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[Casperwaits]

Better yet I will start a new POD contest Jan 1st and grade it everyday myself. No moneyline fav's OVER -200. No cap on dog M/L.

If anybody will pick up a day or 2 grading every now and then it would be appreciated.

I will do Saturday's games/Sunday morning thread if need be.

[frostno98]

Better yet I will start a new POD contest Jan 1st and grade it everyday myself. No moneyline fav's OVER -200. No cap on dog M/L.

If anybody will pick up a day or 2 grading every now and then it would be appreciated.

Sounds great, maybe everyone should stick to that rule from here on out.

[Capybara]

I vote NO on starting a brand-new thread -- that defeats the purpose of seeing everyone's long-term result. It erases the good work of a bunch of posters and rewards posters who were doing poorly.

Why can't we just vote on the rule adjustment that (I think) most people seem in favor of based on their opinions in here.

Also, I don't think we want to start running two or three best-bet threads -- that just dilutes it.

[SexyMit]

It was an original rule that noone has followed. Also the 2nd half bets that arent followed either. I think come new year since it is almost over no more big ML as it says in the rules.

[ryanXL977]

no new thread, whats the point of starting a new one? defeats the whole purpose

[Richkas]

I will do Saturday's games/Sunday morning thread if need be.

OK thanks because I am starting a new one. No heavy M/L this time. I think I am going to put -200 on faves and +200 on dogs cap limit. No sense in a guy jumping to first because of one lucky play. This is to see who the best of the best is.

Heck, starting a new one hurts me more than anybody else, but its a new year.

[RogueScholar]

I like your ML cap rule, Uncle Richie, but I think we should retain the current standings. I'm sure the Think Tank regulars would agree that one play a day for a year isn't a large enough sample size to evaluate a handicapper's skills. A lot of members have taken this thread seriously for some time, yourself foremost among them, and I think that it's a sign of respect to all the participants that the standings carry-over from year to year. It adds credence to the concept and encourages everyone to display their best efforts as opposed to long shot plays at the end of the year to finish better than is warranted.

[BeatTheJerk]

I like your ML cap rule, Uncle Richie, but I think we should retain the current standings. I'm sure the Think Tank regulars would agree that one play a day for a year isn't a large enough sample size to evaluate a handicapper's skills. A lot of members have taken this thread seriously for some time, yourself foremost among them, and I think that it's a sign of respect to all the participants that the standings carry-over from year to year. It adds credence to the concept and encourages everyone to display their best efforts as opposed to long shot plays at the end of the year to finish better than is warranted.

I agree with RS ............

[Kaps]

I like your ML cap rule, Uncle Richie, but I think we should retain the current standings. I'm sure the Think Tank regulars would agree that one play a day for a year isn't a large enough sample size to evaluate a handicapper's skills. A lot of members have taken this thread seriously for some time, yourself foremost among them, and I think that it's a sign of respect to all the participants that the standings carry-over from year to year. It adds credence to the concept and encourages everyone to display their best efforts as opposed to long shot plays at the end of the year to finish better than is warranted.

i agree with this also .....i propose a max ML cap of -300 to +300
....that should be fair enough

[Capybara]

Cool, sounds like we have a consensus to me ... keep the standings, update/adjust/enforce a rule about MLs/bet prices.

We should probably have a poll or survey on what the limit should be though, people have different ideas.

[Richkas]

ok -300/+300 sounds good

you can still take a +700 dog, but you only get credit for +300 right?

[Masu485]

i vote no as well for the resetting everyone's standings. this is a good monitor, and for me (who only plays one game/day), this is a good way to keep track of everything.

so let me get this straight... are there limits on baseball/hockey MLs? or does is it limited to -300 for favs? i'd rather not have a limit as they can go either way easily.

i'm fine with limiting the football and basketball MLs, but to be totally honest, i'm fine with the way it is now. betting -2000 always comes back to bite u in the ass anyway. it'd make for some intense days, and large swings in the rankings, which i'm all for.

[pavyracer]

Lets eliminate all the ML's completely, both fav and dogs. Only spreads. It makes the grading easier.

[Kaps]

....i think the main reason for the cap in the ML is if one of these guys lets say loses a -2000 burn then most likely he will not post again in the thread ....he then goes and starts a new dummy name and starts at 0-0

I think starting tomorrow we will put this rule in effect

[SlicWilly3]

Lets eliminate all the ML's completely, both fav and dogs. Only spreads. It makes the grading easier.

We should keep them.....I for one like to play alot of ML dogs....Not so much with the favs.....But I'm sure I'm not alone.
We should cap it at 1000 either way.....
300?? At least 500 either way imo.