How do you bet horses?

[Masu485]

i never thought about betting horses just because u have like a 1/8 chance of winning, but obviously i'm missing something here.

how come all of you who bet horses are making so much money with it? what strategies do you use?

[CaneDawg]

tough racket

good luck

call richie

[TPowell]

anybody know where you can get beyer speeds online for free?

[onthewhat]

no one wins money betting horses

[losingmyshirt]

anybody know where you can get beyer speeds online for free?

You will struggle to make money using beyer speed figures as your main handicapping tool. Any value that previously existed with speed figures is no longer there IMHO.

Don't focus on speed figures, look at pace and how the race should unfold based on how the horses in the race like to run.

[TPowell]

where can u get that kind of information like where the horse was at certain times of his races?

[madmaxx]

daily racing form

[TPowell]

lol any free way to get it?

[losingmyshirt]

where can u get that kind of information like where the horse was at certain times of his races?

I like the premium past performances from brisnet

Can get unlimited tracks for the same racing day for $4

http://www.brisnet.com/

[onthewhat]

its in the programs

have u never been to a horse track?

[Nicky Santoro]

masu, are you nuts?? what you're asking here is like someone saying, how do i take crack, it seems fun.. masu, if you bet horses, you might as well put a gun to your head... it's less painful. masu, the house advantage in horses will put you of commission quickly.. it's the toughest sport to beat.. no one wins in horses over the long haul.. if you ever hear anyone tell you they're up lifetime in horses, just nod and pretend you believe them.. and then recommend them to go to the mental hospital. masu, stay as far away as possible. horses are for the degenerates only.. it's a losing cause.. the numbers cannot be beaten, forget it..

masu, you live around the corner from me.. you are a 3 min walk from me.. dont make me leave my computer now and come over and give you a few slaps to wake you up.. STAR FAR AWAY FROM HORSES..

[CaneDawg]

agreed nicky

[TPowell]

onthewhat, I went when I was little but no I've never been for the actual gambling

[VegasDave]

Masu, I gotta plug the vids in my signature again

Though the series is incomplete, still need to do a few more vids, just been busy with football season.

[Seattle Slew]

I love betting the horses but have never had a winning year. Closest I came was losing $500 one year, and since I dropped $2,000 the year before, it was like winning. I love the handicapping aspect and like the sport enough to keep playing.

My problem is I can lose $1,000 playing the horses in a couple of months and not be pissed, yet lose $200 betting football and get pissed off. Doesn't make any sense.

A small percentage of pros win at horses, maybe 5 percent. But you have to have a big bankroll and play the Pick 6 and Pick 4s and score some huge tickets. But even then, the tax takeout is huge.

I play almost every day in the summer at Saratoga and it is so draining on the nerves by the time September rolls around, I'm glad I stop for a while.

There are several good OTB phone betting accounts in the U.S. Both Twinspires.com and Connecticut OTB have sign-up bonuses, but they are only available in some states, so check their web sites. I recommend both. They are solid.

[TPowell]

are there any races tommorow? All I see is the races for the 26th

[CaneDawg]

quit before u start

it is very tough

[VegasDave]

Great post SS.

It is virtually impossible to win in horse racing. Those that do win long term spend absurd amounts of time watching videos and collecting information, and they also have large bankrolls and have the discipline to spot bet and pass on races that don't have an edge. It is a miserable and unlivable lifestyle for most people.

As such, approach it as a fun hobby and the opportunity for the occasional big score, but expect to lose long term.

[onthewhat]

Boys check this out

First time I went to the track, had no clue what I was doing, friend said something about a pick 3 so I made a pick 3 ticket for 18 bucks. I don't remember the exact details and don't know how to figure out the calculations of the ticket, but I think one race I had 3 or 4 horses, another race had 2 horses, and the 3rd race was my single with a 2-5 horse as the single leg...

1st race, one of my 2 horses wins, I think it was like between 4 to 1 and 8 to 1. 2nd race, I lucksack and one of my 3 or 4 horses I had was 20-1....it was a photo finish between the 20-1 and another horse I had...and I lucksacked and the 20-1 took first....so we look up at the board, and next race if my 2-5 hits (2nd fav was 8-1, everyone else longshots at like 20-1 or higher), I win like 500 bucks on a $18 ticket.

Race starts, my 2-5 favorite is up about 8 lengths on the final turn, I say wow...that was easy and me and my friend are high fiving because we both played same ticket for like $18...we were both going to leave with like 500 or 600 bucks.

8-1 catches him for a photo finish, I was right on the finish line and saw 8-1 horse win by a nose...i was crushed. Longest photo finish I ever had...if they call a dead heat i win about $1000 because they pooled the money together i think, or if 2-5 horse gets the win i win about 600....ends up the 8-1 horse wins outright.

So every time I went after that, I thought doing the pick 3s was sooo easy, I probably ended up doing 10 pick 3 tickets...at around $20 a pop...and I dont ever remember even hitting 2 out of 3 legs.

[TPowell]

yeah I understand its a loser long term but another hobby would be good

[TPowell]

anybody have a clue? I heard others talking about betting horses tommorow but I see most tracks closed

[Masu485]

masu, are you nuts?? what you're asking here is like someone saying, how do i take crack, it seems fun.. masu, if you bet horses, you might as well put a gun to your head... it's less painful. masu, the house advantage in horses will put you of commission quickly.. it's the toughest sport to beat.. no one wins in horses over the long haul.. if you ever hear anyone tell you they're up lifetime in horses, just nod and pretend you believe them.. and then recommend them to go to the mental hospital. masu, stay as far away as possible. horses are for the degenerates only.. it's a losing cause.. the numbers cannot be beaten, forget it..

masu, you live around the corner from me.. you are a 3 min walk from me.. dont make me leave my computer now and come over and give you a few slaps to wake you up.. STAR FAR AWAY FROM HORSES..

nicky, i can picture u slapping me just once and my head flying into a wall. don't worry though. i'm not actually thinking about betting horses, i just wanted to know why it's so popular. i like doing sports because there's a 1/2 chance, and that's still not even enough. so don't worry nicky, i'll stick to sports.

i never understood how having a 1/8 chance can keep u hooked. there must be some kind of strategy. there must be lots of fixes too. that's the only way i can see winning long term... knowing the fixes.

Vegasdave, i never saw noticed that link in ur sig before. i'm gonna check it out for sure. didn't know u were into that stuff.

[betplom]

the house advantage in horses

When you bet offshore there is no takeout.

Horses are tough to beat, I don't claim to be a lifetime winner at the horses but I've had some nice wins ($15000) on gimmick wagers betting $72 tickets.

I bet win-4, trifectas, and superfectas.

[TPowell]

yeah I would imagine horse racing is beatable with offshore betting. I'm still it's still a remote chance but a lot better than live betting

[wtf]

been betting horses for 30 years now

i love the spectical of the event, and of course the thrill of hitting a longshot

if your in it to just win money there are methods

takes huge control, like only bet one or two races a day MAX

i do not have this control

because of pari-mutal pools in america nobody who is beating the track will ever share it. it contravenes the concepts of the pools.

[bbyhill]

anybody know where you can get beyer speeds online for free?

Do you mean Pars?

[bbyhill]

where can u get that kind of information like where the horse was at certain times of his races?

Any PP's or you could watch replays at calracing.com for free and see where the horse is and the fractional times.

[betplom]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/96242-horse-racing-full-card-past-performances-week-8-25-8-31-a.html#post983834

[jjgold]

first of all betting horses is not popular in usa and a sport on the decline

More and more Americans are smarter now and realize it is a suckers game

The older generation horse player is dying down and he was a dumber player vs todays player

[bbyhill]

anybody have a clue? I heard others talking about betting horses tommorow but I see most tracks closed

racing resumes the 26th with the opening of Santa Anita

[flyingillini]

I just call up Richie and ask him for his plays

[bbyhill]

If you wager with Twin Spires you get free Brisnet PP'S as long as you place a wager on the track you have the PP's For

[bbyhill]

I just call up Richie and ask him for his plays

Just sent him the DRF for opening day at S A