damn ! some guy just won 429,000 at pinnacle's casino
Player wins $429,000 on a Royal Flush hand playing Pinnacle Casino’s stud poker August 2nd. PinnacleSports Casino is powered by Blue Chip Games’ casino suite which is widely considered to be the fairest casino software online.
isetcap
SBR MVP
12-16-05
4006
#2
Originally posted by bigboydan
Player wins $429,000 on a Royal Flush hand playing Pinnacle Casino’s stud poker August 2nd.
Nice win. I hope he got a screenshot of that lifechanger.
Originally posted by bigboydan
PinnacleSports Casino is powered by Blue Chip Games’ casino suite which is widely considered to be the fairest casino software online.
I've got to sound the shill alarm on SBR here. Unlike Chuck, I will actually provide evidence as opposed to volume.
Blue Chip Games exists exclusively to provide flash casino software to Pinnacle and Pinnacle only. They have no other clients and I suspect strongly that they never will since there are numerous other software products that are more widely supported than Blue Chip.
The software offered by Blue Chip could not possibly be considered fairer than the software offerings of Microgaming, Playtech, Real Time Gaming, Cryptologic, or Boss Media; all of whom own more market share than Blue Chip, have been in the industry longer, and have never had a reported incidence of software impropriety.
Blue Chip also declares errantly (or untruthfully) that their blackjack game provides the best odds at 0.16% (adjusted with the cashback policy). In fact, this game can be beaten by many games available through the above mentioned software providers. Here is a list of games that are verified to have better odds...
Boss Media Single Deck Blackjack -- The king of games in that proper play affords the PLAYER an advantage of 0.15%.
Cryptologic Single Deck Blackjack -- Cryptologic cashback and composition strategy make this a 0 house edge game.
Real Time Gaming Pontoon -- RTG cashback plus proper strategy yields house edge of 0.07%.
Playtech Blackjack Switch -- Playtech cashback and correct play gives the house an edge of 0.07%.
Real Time Gaming Caribbean 21 -- RTG cashback and correct play gives the house an advantage of 0.09%.
Microgaming Classic Blackjack -- House edge of 0.11%.
As you can see, all of the major providers have at least one game that is significantly better than the Blue Chip offering.
This is not to say that the Pinnacle casino isn't a great casino for the casual player. It certainly is. If you are a Caribbean Stud player then Pinnacle is definitely the best place to play but keep in mind the house still has a massive edge of over 3%. The added benefit (although it's not software related) is that the casino is backed by Pinnacle money which means that you know you will be paid and it will come to you faster than any other casino in the industry.
As an aside; if anyone from Pinnacle/Blue Chip reads this, please check your "About the Company" page which duplicates the first paragraph. It certainly doesn't lead a person to think about professionalism when there are errors such as that.
isetcap, good write-up. Pinnacle usually isn't big on hype. Maybe they will reconsider their promotional copy.
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imgv94
SBR Posting Legend
11-16-05
17192
#4
Nice writeup isetcap. You convinced me!!
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SBR_John
SBR Posting Legend
07-12-05
16471
#5
What rebate do you get with those other providers?
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yokspot
SBR Sharp
11-16-05
287
#6
Isetcap, very good, factual post.
There are several little fictions on the Blue Chip page:
We are rated as the fairest software in the internet by The Wizard of Odds, Michael Shakleford.
Someone tell Mike. Betcha that's news to him.
We do not offer signup bonus bonus gimmicks, roll over money bonuses or valueless enticements that clutter nearly every other casino on the net. These programs generally require that players to wager several times their initial deposit to realize a bonus. Further, if a player manages to accomplish this roll-over labyrinth, they are made to wait weeks for "pin-numbers" to withdraw their bonus", during which time the player is nagged with requests asking if they wish to cancel their withdrawal.
Online casinos that wish to offer a signup bonus often have to take these steps in order to protect themsleves from scamsters simply looking for free bonus money, yet these measures tend to frustrate honest players.
Since everyone here plays at Pinnacle, and everyone will have received their 10% signup bonus, looks like everyone here is a "scamster".
Betcha didn't know that, huh?
Aside from that, that passage is full of other innacuracies and slurs. Cryptologic, whose require pins for withdrawals, will be chuffed to know their casinos "nag" players to cancel withdrawals.
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chano
SBR Wise Guy
07-02-06
602
#7
Definetly a shill job.
Also, casinos are for the casino, both land and online. Anyone that plays them on land is crazy, anyone that plays them online is banging on the door of an insane asylum, yelling "let me in , let me in". Those are just my thoughts.
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isetcap
SBR MVP
12-16-05
4006
#8
Originally posted by SBR_John
What rebate do you get with those other providers?
The number can change from one operator to another. Acquiring VIP status at some institutions can actually gain you significantly higher rebates. The industry standard is 0.1% for table games and typically 0.3% for slots.
Pinnacle's rebate is excellent but it's more than offset by their blackjack game which is mediocre (I'm being kind).
I have not looked carefully at the Pinnacle craps offering but there is a chance that you have serious value there depending on how they calculate their rebate and how large of an odds bet one can make. The house edge there could be even lower than the blackjack game but likely still not as good as most of the games I listed.
The other benefit (in my eyes) to the games I spoke of earlier is that most if not all of them have higer deviation than Pinnacle Blackjack. The higher deviation allows you to reach a higher level or bottom out quicker. So if you set a goal, you are more likely to reach it with less wagering than necessary at Pinnacle, further lessening your exposure to house edge.
I currently have a Microgaming position that pays me 0.50% on all my wagers. The best game that particular casino will give me the rebate on has a house edge of 0.31%. When I play there I have an overall edge of 0.19% on every single dollar I wager.
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MrX
SBR MVP
01-10-06
1540
#9
Originally posted by chano
Definetly a shill job.
Also, casinos are for the casino, both land and online. Anyone that plays them on land is crazy, anyone that plays them online is banging on the door of an insane asylum, yelling "let me in , let me in". Those are just my thoughts.
Casinos, both online and B&M, provide many opportunities for a player to make good money. Usually it's by oversight or error. Sometimes it's intentional. Closed-mindedness is a big handicap to overcome in the gambling business.