Boise State vs. TCU Poinsettia Bowl ESPN 8:05

[SportsLockPicks]

Who likes who...lets start tearing into this one.

[SportsLockPicks]

look at these ATS numbers for Boise States recent history.

http://www.sbrodds.com/odds/college_football/game/StatFoxForm.aspx?TYPESTATFOX=gamematchup&page=NCAAF/expanded&date=12/23/2008&rotnum=211

[masr]

LIKIN' BOISE ST +3 (buy the hook)
shoot out, will be close game..

[SportsLockPicks]

buy the hook...where is it under 3?

[The Seer]

I will give you this 1 tip: A lower ranked team is favored over a higher ranked unbeaten team. You don't even have to know anything else. Hammer TCU. Actually, I will give you two. When a superior offense is playing a superior defense always play on the superior defense especially when they allow less than 50 yards a game rushing. Merry Christmas.

[Seattle Slew]

TCU's coach is excellent. I'm surprised he hasn't landed a big job yet. I like Boise State, but can't see them winning in this spot. TCU, 23-13.

[james4512]

kurt heribstreet picked boise and not going to lie he is probably the best at predicting games out of any analyst on ESPN (in any sport) so i tend to go with boise. Hard game to cap all around im either going to stay away or small play on boise

[Masu485]

Broncos:



vs.

Horned Frogs!




I'm on Boise +3!! Should be a good game. Looking forward to watching. Good Luck

[I.R.B]

TCU

[Kingctb27]

Herb is the man. Gotta go with him. He knows more than anyone on this forum does, that is for sure.

[The Seer]

Herb is the man. Gotta go with him. He knows more than anyone on this forum does, that is for sure.

He didn't know much about Southern Miss because he picked Troy. So I don't guess he knows any more than I considering I cashed that one.

[ryanXL977]

every single person in sbr said do not do utah, do tcu

ill take boise here

[THEGREAT30]

He didn't know much about Southern Miss because he picked Troy. So I don't guess he knows any more than I considering I cashed that one.

You and I also.

[THEGREAT30]

TCU made BYU look like amateurs. The winner may score 24, not going to be that high scoring.

[hoopster42]

kurt heribstreet picked boise and not going to lie he is probably the best at predicting games out of any analyst on ESPN (in any sport) so i tend to go with boise. Hard game to cap all around im either going to stay away or small play on boise

true but he does lose many picks if you follow him each and every week on gameday on sat mornings like i do, and this will be one of them that he loses, tcu is the play here no question about it

[porkchop817]

I like the over

GL to everyone

[hoopster42]

Herb is the man. Gotta go with him. He knows more than anyone on this forum does, that is for sure.

not so fast, my friend. watch every sat morning the gameday show youll see he misses tons of them, he is a great analyst but is wrong nearly as much as he is right. incorrect on troy last night and incorrect on boise st tomorrow

[l7ustin]

tcu is the smart play. you can play whichever side you want.

the question is:

HOW SMART ARE YOU?

[Legends]

Herbstreit without a doubt knows more than anyone in here about football, not sure how people can really argue against that. Most analysts really aren't that great (although they're MUCH better than people give them credit for), but Herbstreit is someone you can tell from listening to knows his shit and knows it very well. Does that mean he's going to always be right? No, especially from a gamblers point of view. He still has forgotten more about football than this forum combined will ever know. Can't really judge him at all on the Troy/So Miss game because 1) it's one game and 2) it's a small time game and he will pretty much always cover the big matchup of the week. I'd trust his picks more so for the BCS conference games, not the games involving non-BCS teams. TCU/Boise might be an exception because they are pretty high caliber non-BCS teams that have gotten exposure this year.

As for my thoughts on this game; it can go either way. Part of me thinks TCU's defense will be too much and that they are by far the best non-BCS team, and the other part of me says Boise has a better offense, an amazing coach and a very underrated defense. Really not sure here to be honest, although I do think the under is a smart play. May be too low for me to bite.

[l7ustin]

I disagree Herbstreit is being overrated, I think pags knows more

[Masu485]

damn, does anyone know a site to watch this online?

i was so pumped about watching this game and now i can't find it anywhere.

[poetwarrior41]

TCU has the #2 scoring defense in the country, and Boise State has the #3. TCU's second leading tackler is suspended for this game. I think Boise's defense is good enough to shut down TCU's ball control offense. I think Boise wins on the floor in a low scoring affair.
Boise State +3 is my selection

[james4512]

not so fast, my friend. watch every sat morning the gameday show youll see he misses tons of them, he is a great analyst but is wrong nearly as much as he is right. incorrect on troy last night and incorrect on boise st tomorrow

r u a dumbass? His upset specials were 12-2 against the spread. Keep posting moron

[SlicWilly3]

kurt heribstreet picked boise and not going to lie he is probably the best at predicting games out of any analyst on ESPN (in any sport) so i tend to go with boise. Hard game to cap all around im either going to stay away or small play on boise

Yeah Herbstreit is MONEY with College Football....I agree with him that Boise will win a close game.
I have Boise +3 1/2 (bought a 1/2 pt)
And I also have them +8 1/2 on a teaser i put in yesterday

[SlicWilly3]

Herbstreit without a doubt knows more than anyone in here about football, not sure how people can really argue against that. Most analysts really aren't that great (although they're MUCH better than people give them credit for), but Herbstreit is someone you can tell from listening to knows his shit and knows it very well. Does that mean he's going to always be right? No, especially from a gamblers point of view. He still has forgotten more about football than this forum combined will ever know. Can't really judge him at all on the Troy/So Miss game because 1) it's one game and 2) it's a small time game and he will pretty much always cover the big matchup of the week. I'd trust his picks more so for the BCS conference games, not the games involving non-BCS teams. TCU/Boise might be an exception because they are pretty high caliber non-BCS teams that have gotten exposure this year.

As for my thoughts on this game; it can go either way. Part of me thinks TCU's defense will be too much and that they are by far the best non-BCS team, and the other part of me says Boise has a better offense, an amazing coach and a very underrated defense. Really not sure here to be honest, although I do think the under is a smart play. May be too low for me to bite.

Good post.....Let also not forget that Troy was Herbstriets ONLY loss so far this bowl season....And they were up 10 in the 4th qtr.
He's 4-1 going into tonight.......ALSO TCU's 2nd best defensive player, and best Linebacker is OUT...
****Robert Henson has been ruled academically ineligible and will sit out the Poinsettia Bowl.
Henson is an all-Mountain West first team selection this year, and is currently second on the team with 73 tackles. He's also intercepted 2 passes.

[hoopster42]

r u a dumbass? His upset specials were 12-2 against the spread. Keep posting moron

i've been watching herbstreit since the first time he was on college gameday which was right after he graduated ohio state you motherfukker, he has missed way more upset specials than he has gotten right in the last 15 yrs on gameday motherfukker, college sports are my motherfukkin life and i follow all 119 teams in d-1a, i read 8-10 college football annuals every summer, cover to cover, herbstreit is just a guy, a good guy with knowledge, but just a guy, go bet his picks for the next few yrs, every one of his picks, and tell me how you end up motherfukker

this post brought to you by a college sports god who actually withdraws winnings from books every yr, unlike the majority of losers you know

TC-fukkin U is the play, and i got them at -2 when the line opened up weeks ago motherfukker

[l7ustin]

[fiveteamer]

how can people have such strong opinions about this game, they are all coinflips.

[hoopster42]

how can people have such strong opinions about this game, they are all coinflips.

5T many are tossups youre rite, but those in the know knew that wake over navy and az over byu, despite the short spreads, were not tossups. cfb teams are not heads or talks equal sided coins. tcu has a clear advantage in this gm with the fact that their offense has a better chance of exploiting weaknesses in boise's defense than vice versa. tcu's defense will shut down boise's offense just like i told you that tcu's d would shut down byu, do you remember that thread where i made many ppl look like betting buffoons that night? same thing applies here, tcu is the play, period end of story

[The Seer]

5T many are tossups youre rite, but those in the know knew that wake over navy and az over byu, despite the short spreads, were not tossups. cfb teams are not heads or talks equal sided coins. tcu has a clear advantage in this gm with the fact that their offense has a better chance of exploiting weaknesses in boise's defense than vice versa. tcu's defense will shut down boise's offense just like i told you that tcu's d would shut down byu, do you remember that thread where i made many ppl look like betting buffoons that night? same thing applies here, tcu is the play, period end of story

hoopster, you wouldn't even have to know that. All you would need to know is what i said in post 5.

[masr]

Take the OV 45.5

[The Seer]

Herbstreit without a doubt knows more than anyone in here about football, not sure how people can really argue against that.

I doubt that. Herbstreit was done when he graduated college. I played ball till I was 30. I have since spent that time coaching and have learned and shared info with plenty of friends that include college and NFL players and coaches. Nina and 1 or 2 more on this site can verify that as she knows who I am and has seen the pics from many of these experiences. I do this for a hobby but my life revolves around football. Too say I know more than Herb, I can't say for sure but I seriously doubt he knows more technical football than me. I will say he does know more about all of the different teams than me.

[hoopster42]

hoopster, you wouldn't even have to know that. All you would need to know is what i said in post 5.

that certainly helps dude but when you know the tendencies, strengths and weaknesses of all 22 players on the field at a given time like i do then you dont need the above info, you just trust your instincts and what you have seen of both teams all season long, i have watched each team play numerous times this season and tcu should roll them pretty good with suffocating defense and a hard charging running game finding holes in an undersized boise defense

[hoopster42]

I doubt that. Herbstreit was done when he graduated college. I played ball till I was 30. I have since spent that time coaching and have learned and shared info with plenty of friends that include college and NFL players and coaches. Nina and 1 or 2 more on this site can verify that as she knows who I am and has seen the pics from many of these experiences. I do this for a hobby but my life revolves around football. Too say I know more than Herb, I can't say for sure but I seriously doubt he knows more technical football than me. I will say he does know more about all of the different teams than me.

player for player, coach for coach, team for team, nobody on tv knows more about cfb and cbb than i do, dont believe me i dont care, just read my posts when i pick games and watch the games play out in front of your eyes, youll see all you need to know

andy dalton and marcus jackson of tcu to the freaking house, boise redshirt frosh qb kellen moore will be blitzed and blasted into his worst passing game of his young career, take that to the bank and deposit that shit

[jackpot269]

I doubt that. Herbstreit was done when he graduated college. I played ball till I was 30. I have since spent that time coaching and have learned and shared info with plenty of friends that include college and NFL players and coaches. Nina and 1 or 2 more on this site can verify that as she knows who I am and has seen the pics from many of these experiences. I do this for a hobby but my life revolves around football. Too say I know more than Herb, I can't say for sure but I seriously doubt he knows more technical football than me. I will say he does know more about all of the different teams than me.

Seer I got a lot of respect for you and your opinion when ever you give it but you've got to admit hes as good as any one else on tv and by far the best on espn on CFB