Elvis Andrus with Rangers om an 8 years 120 mill extension

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  • You mad bro
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    • 01-15-12
    • 16641

    #1
    Elvis Andrus with Rangers om an 8 years 120 mill extension


    not that bad i guess for a 24 year old


    elvis andrus agrees with the rangers on an 8 year 120 mill contract extension ******
  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63182

    #2
    ridiculous
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    • You mad bro
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      • 01-15-12
      • 16641

      #3
      Originally posted by Chi_archie
      ridiculous
      money gettn thrown out like crazy in baseball .. pretty soon the minimum will be 6 million
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45367

        #4
        is this guy even good?!
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        • No coincidences
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          • 01-18-10
          • 76300

          #5
          These contracts are out of control.
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          • yisman
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-01-08
            • 75682

            #6
            getting twice as much as he's worth

            every recent contract has been insane

            Strange decision considering he was under contract for two more years. Why overpay now?
            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
            [/quote]

            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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            • You mad bro
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              • 01-15-12
              • 16641

              #7
              Originally posted by Brock Landers
              is this guy even good?!
              hes about average .. playing in texas in that hitters ballpark probably helps .. idk the stats though .. all i know is hes young
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              • Vegas39
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 09-22-11
                • 30686

                #8
                Originally posted by yisman
                getting twice as much as he's worth

                every recent contract has been insane

                Its Texas where their motto is:

                we pay more for the mediocre
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                • You mad bro
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                  • 01-15-12
                  • 16641

                  #9
                  everything is bigger in texas lol
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                  • Chi_archie
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                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63182

                    #10
                    well he is definitely NOT average.

                    but still seems to be a big risk
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                    • You mad bro
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                      • 01-15-12
                      • 16641

                      #11
                      YEAR TEAM GP AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS WAR
                      2009 145 480 72 128 17 8 6 40 40 77 33 6 .267 .329 .373 .702 3.3
                      2010 148 588 88 156 15 3 0 35 64 96 32 15 .265 .342 .301 .643 0.9
                      2011 150 587 96 164 27 3 5 60 56 74 37 12 .279 .347 .361 .708 4.0
                      2012 158 629 85 180 31 9 3 62 57 96 21 10 .286 .349 .378 .727 3.4
                      2013 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 --
                      Total Total 602 2288 341 628 90 23 14 197 217 345 123 43 .274 .342 .352 .694 --
                      Season Averages 120.0 457.6 68.2 125.6 18.0 4.6 2.8 39.4 43.4 69.0 24.6 8.6 .274 .342 .352 .694 --
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                      • JoeyBagels
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-10-13
                        • 784

                        #12
                        These ridiculous contracts are making the Astros owner look more and more like a fing genius.
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                        • You mad bro
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                          • 01-15-12
                          • 16641

                          #13
                          kershaw might get 30 million a year
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                          • Chi_archie
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-22-08
                            • 63182

                            #14
                            gotta look at all the other Shortstops in baseball

                            they all suck right now

                            Guy was near the top for WAR and OPS last year for shortstops.

                            he'd be a below average corner infielder or outfielder for sure though!!!
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                            • No coincidences
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-18-10
                              • 76300

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                              well he is definitely NOT average.

                              but still seems to be a big risk
                              Hasn't proven much to the contrary so far.
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                              • yisman
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-01-08
                                • 75682

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                gotta look at all the other Shortstops in baseball

                                they all suck right now

                                Guy was near the top for WAR and OPS last year for shortstops.

                                he'd be a below average corner infielder or outfielder for sure though!!!
                                it's a down period for SSs for sure, but a guy whose OPS and WAR are as low as Andrus's...

                                he doesn't deserve 15 million a year.

                                OPS+ by season: 82, 72, 89, 91

                                lol

                                I would've offered 4 years, 32 million.

                                If the agent says no, I still have him for two more seasons.
                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                [/quote]

                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 66087

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by You mad bro
                                  idk the stats though
                                  He's what I call a second tier SS, first tier would be a healthy Tulo, the next tier are the Jimmy Rollins and the Starlin Castro's of the world. He's in there.
                                  He's better than a Asdrubal Cabrera of the Indians, not quite as good as Jose Reyes.
                                  Unlike Reyes who seems to be on the DL twice a year, Andrus has played virtually every game of his 4 year career. Rookie of the Year runner up in '09, two time all star already, 285 hitter, nice OBA guy, around .350, with speed to burn. Will steal 30 bases a year, that's a given. No home run pop, but name me (besides Tulo) that does.
                                  Steady shortstop, good, not great range according to fangraphs.com

                                  Overpaid at 15 mil per year, but the SS pool is thin, and manager Washington says he is working hard on discipline at the plate, (did he .414 this spring) is a work out beast I hear, and a good clubhouse guy.

                                  Yes Brock, he is good, not 15 mil per year good.
                                  4 years at 12 mil per would have been more than generous.
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                                  • Chi_archie
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63182

                                    #18
                                    what was his WAR last year?

                                    where did that rank among SS's
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 66087

                                      #19
                                      ^
                                      3.7 WAR, almost 4 games better than replacement.
                                      Give me a minute, let's see how that ranks against his peers.
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                                      • broadway6
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                                        • 11-14-09
                                        • 13337

                                        #20
                                        Horrible contract. Good for the young guy.
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                                        • stevenash
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                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 66087

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                          where did that rank among SS's
                                          Tied for second with Castro last year, only better WAR rating was Aybar, best in the majors for SS's at 4.0

                                          I like Aybar a lot by the way, did not realize he was tops.
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 66087

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by broadway6
                                            Horrible contract. Good for the young guy.
                                            From all accounts though, he's a guy you want on your team
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                                            • broadway6
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-14-09
                                              • 13337

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by stevenash
                                              From all accounts though, he's a guy you want on your team
                                              Sure but at that salary?
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                                              • Chi_archie
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 63182

                                                #24
                                                thanks Nasher

                                                well people must not like having a top SS signed to big money because they guy won't be in his prime during the contract years

                                                could that be it?
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 66087

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by broadway6
                                                  Sure but at that salary?
                                                  Give me that salary I'll play SS, do the team laundry and scrub the toilets.
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82662

                                                    #26
                                                    Does money grow on trees for baseball?
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                                                    • stevenash
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                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 66087

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                      thanks Nasher

                                                      well people must not like having a top SS signed to big money because they guy won't be in his prime during the contract years

                                                      could that be it?
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                                                      • pavyracer
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                        • 82662

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        Give me that salary I'll play SS, do the team laundry and scrub the toilets.
                                                        I would hire 3 mexicans to do the laundry and scrub the toilets if I was you. You can afford them with that salary.
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                                                        • Chi_archie
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-22-08
                                                          • 63182

                                                          #29
                                                          Texas coulda had Clint Barmes at 5.5 million for a few years


                                                          they focked up
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 66087

                                                            #30
                                                            This is what Tulo just got.

                                                            2007 22 Colorado Rockies $381,000
                                                            2008 23 Colorado Rockies $750,000
                                                            2009 24 Colorado Rockies $1,000,000
                                                            2010 25 Colorado Rockies $3,500,000
                                                            2011 26 Colorado Rockies $5,500,000
                                                            2012 27 Colorado Rockies $8,250,000 contracts
                                                            2013 28 Colorado Rockies $10,000,000
                                                            2014 29 Colorado Rockies $16,000,000
                                                            2015 30 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
                                                            2016 31 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
                                                            2017 32 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
                                                            2018 33 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
                                                            2019 34 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
                                                            2020 35 Colorado Rockies $14,000,000
                                                            2021 36 Colorado Rockies *$15,000,000 $15M Team Option, $4M Buyout
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                                                            • Monchito
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-20-11
                                                              • 1928

                                                              #31
                                                              Asdrubal Cabrera is better than him
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 66087

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Monchito
                                                                Asdrubal Cabrera is better than him
                                                                No he's not
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                                                                • You mad bro
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                                                                  • 01-15-12
                                                                  • 16641

                                                                  #33
                                                                  6 years 72 million i think would have been good
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                                                                  • WvGambler
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-19-10
                                                                    • 11618

                                                                    #34
                                                                    what about Jurickson Profar? This makes no sense.
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                                                                    • frogsrangers
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 04-25-12
                                                                      • 5792

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by WvGambler
                                                                      what about Jurickson Profar? This makes no sense.
                                                                      They did this to send a message to Ian Kinsler to move to 1B or OF so Profar can come up, and to give the team options for Giancarlo Stanton
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