Video For Nicky: We KNOW its a coinflip!

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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #1
    Video For Nicky: We KNOW its a coinflip!


    Why handicapping is still fun, even if it is just a coin flip.
  • UntilTheNDofTimE
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-29-08
    • 9285

    #2
    go dave...dont ever change keep your essence the power is in the numbers and ignorance we adress
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    • onthewhat
      Restricted User
      • 05-14-08
      • 15411

      #3
      Nicky's arguement is that if you can't beat the closing number, and aren't good at predicting line moves, and beating the numbers, etc. THEN you should flip a coin. You should work on handicapping the line, not the teams. So thats what discussion should be about. Not that Colts are 4-6 last 10 on grass, at night, in 60 degree weather, etc.

      Handicap the line not the teams. If you have fun being right half the time and still getting killed by the books...then go right ahead. Losing money is not fun to most people.
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      • VegasDave
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-03-07
        • 8056

        #4
        Originally posted by onthewhat
        Nicky's arguement is that if you can't beat the closing number, and aren't good at predicting line moves, and beating the numbers, etc. THEN you should flip a coin. You should work on handicapping the line, not the teams. So thats what discussion should be about. Not that Colts are 4-6 last 10 on grass, at night, in 60 degree weather, etc.

        Handicap the line not the teams. If you have fun being right half the time and still getting killed by the books...then go right ahead. Losing money is not fun to most people.
        I agree with the importance of getting the best line!

        I personally think its nice to handicap a game to try and find the correct side so that you know what to do with those line movements.
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        • Nicky Santoro
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-08-08
          • 16103

          #5
          hey, i am here to help educate the kids out there with a dream and making them wake up to reality, that's it. i am sorry if i was so mean.. sure it's fun when you handicap and you win, but is it also fun as you say when you lose your JAX bet on a late interception and you just lost 220 bucks and now you basically worked for free the last 4 or 5 days and now you have to go work another 4 days to make it back so you can have enough to buy xmas presents, when you already did have enough if you listened to me and never bet again and just kept doing it for fun.. wasn't it fun enough before doing this, seeing your record, doing vids, doing write ups and having money to do what you want that you worked hard for? was it fun going to bed last night out 220 bucks.. i am just trying to help the kids out and tell them to save their money or bet very small cause they're not going to win handicapping games off the top of their head.


          There's a reason why i have seen 3,243 gamblers like you in my life bet the same way and funny how not one ever came up ahead.. Is that coincidence? but i only said this to you because you seemed like you were one of those special guys who will come up ahead.. you always argued with me.. even though i do admit that i have never met a guy who knows so much about college sports than you, and even with this, it will NOT help you one bet.. not one bit..

          I promise i wont ever mention to you again that you wont win.. when you're down 2k next year, i will wait till you say, i wish i listened to nicky and never bet, he was right..

          and btw, good vid..
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          • SlickFazzer
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-22-08
            • 20209

            #6
            Interesting conversations/thoughts.
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            • accuscoresucks
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-03-07
              • 7160

              #7
              good stuff nicky



              nice video usc aka:usc fan first kname david
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              • Brock Landers
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 06-30-08
                • 45359

                #8
                2nd best vid after your JJ impersonation VD. Although you should have known Jacksonville has been sucking for 2 solid months and no one is hotter in football than Indy.

                Good luck pal
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                • Tsoprano
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 04-14-08
                  • 26374

                  #9
                  Nice Video

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                  • VegasDave
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-03-07
                    • 8056

                    #10
                    Hey Nicky,

                    I think the important thing is to just make sure you don't bet money that you can't afford to lose, because like you said, you will lose long term, so you have to bet with money you can afford to and expect to lose.

                    I have been saving up money the last few months and have a decent amount saved up. I'm taking a trip to Las Vegas with the GF in early January. I took some of the money that I put aside to lose/spend in Vegas and put it on this game. If it won, I would have had more to play with. Since it lost, I have less. But I'm responsible and thats why I'm not crushed by this loss; it was money I could afford to lose and expected to lose.

                    But you make a good point about the young gamblers with delusions of making millions betting sports. You are definitely an asset to guys like that, and I understand that you are just trying to help those kids save some money and heartbreak.
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                    • VegasDave
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-03-07
                      • 8056

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                      2nd best vid after your JJ impersonation VD. Although you should have known Jacksonville has been sucking for 2 solid months and no one is hotter in football than Indy.

                      Good luck pal
                      Reasons like that are exactly why I like shitty teams, and my philosophy picks have been money all year.

                      It is certainly the road less traveled, but if you give me 24 - 14 at the end of the 3rd again, I'll take Jacksonville every single time.

                      Congrats on hitting Indy though
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                      • betplom
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-20-06
                        • 13444

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VegasDave
                        Reasons like that are exactly why I like shitty teams, and my philosophy picks have been money all year.

                        It is certainly the road less traveled, but if you give me 24 - 14 at the end of the 3rd again, I'll take Jacksonville every single time.

                        Fυck you for hitting Indy though
                        Well put Dave, you tell that Nicky what for.

                        BTW - Your $0.02 is worth $0.024 Canadian.
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                        • pat venditto
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-07-07
                          • 14347

                          #13
                          dave you're on tilt bud so much hostility.
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                          • VegasDave
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-03-07
                            • 8056

                            #14
                            I do my videos calmly and I'm boring, I show a bit of emotion and I am on tilt/hostile, I can't win
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                            • pat venditto
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-07-07
                              • 14347

                              #15
                              Best way to sports bet is to stick every side and total in a hat and pick one and stick $100 on it. I feel good if i win and if i lose i dont feel bad because i picked out of a hat. If i sit there and study a bunch of bullshit for 5 hours and then my side loses by 30 ill be on tilt and jump out the window.
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                              • Tsoprano
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 04-14-08
                                • 26374

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pat venditto
                                Best way to sports bet is to stick every side and total in a hat and pick one and stick $100 on it. I feel good if i win and if i lose i dont feel bad because i picked out of a hat. If i sit there and study a bunch of bullshit for 5 hours and then my side loses by 30 ill be on tilt and jump out the window.
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                                • InTheHole
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-28-08
                                  • 15243

                                  #17
                                  From an "amateur" gambler. You all make two assumptions with 50-50 logic which are wrong. The public and the lines makers are always right. Both assumptions are wrong and that is why I make more money than I lose.
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                                  • SBR Lou
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 08-02-07
                                    • 37863

                                    #18
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                                    • Bread
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-16-08
                                      • 23726

                                      #19
                                      "That's just my two cents".

                                      That can be your signature sign-off for the VD video series.

                                      Star in the making.
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                                      • Slim
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-13-08
                                        • 4722

                                        #20
                                        Nice rug Dave.
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                                        • VegasDave
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-03-07
                                          • 8056

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Slim
                                          Nice rug Dave.
                                          Do people really think this is a rug? I'm 22
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                                          • VegasDave
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-03-07
                                            • 8056

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Bread
                                            "That's just my two cents".

                                            That can be your signature sign-off for the VD video series.

                                            Star in the making.
                                            On my podcasts, my sign-off is "That's my dime, because two cents just isn't enough"
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                                            • Slim
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-13-08
                                              • 4722

                                              #23
                                              I thought most people on here are bald.
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                                              • Slim
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-13-08
                                                • 4722

                                                #24
                                                I like Nicky he's a solid poster and makes good videos. The best way to win at sports is to spot bet. Thats what i've been doing for the past few months and i've made some nice money. Before i'd use to bet lots of games, you can't win if you do that.
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                                                • VegasDave
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-03-07
                                                  • 8056

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Slim
                                                  I like Nicky he's a solid poster and makes good videos. The best way to win at sports is to spot bet. Thats what i've been doing for the past few months and i've made some nice money. Before i'd use to bet lots of games, you can't win if you do that.
                                                  Nicky is a solid poster and his videos are among the best.

                                                  I just wish he'd let us discuss handicapping every now and then without reminding us what losers we are
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                                                  • purecarnagge
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-05-07
                                                    • 4843

                                                    #26
                                                    This is all coming from the kid who two weeks ago said he didn't have any money to afford on gambling after having bills food etc he barley had 20.00 in his account. Now he's budgeting a trip to vegas and comes with 200+ to suddenly lose and expected to lose it...
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