Gamblers would still go broke with NO JUICE betting

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  • Nicky Santoro
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-08-08
    • 16103

    #1
    Gamblers would still go broke with NO JUICE betting
    Did you boys know that.. aside from the pros... your avg bettor would go broke if you never paid juice again. here is how.

    If you can bet games like Lakers -12.5 even/Wolves +12.5 even.. OR Yankees -175/Twins +175, you'd still go broke.. here is why.

    How many times have you seen an overnight line on Lakers -6.5 and you say, wow, only -6.5 and you bet it, and by game time, it's now -4, OR you DON'T bet it at night and by game time, it's -4 and you say, thank god i didn't bet it at -6.5.. I'm sure that happens alot to you all..

    Now, here's the reason why all bettors would go broke. No one really knows what a fair line is, except the books. .Books know ahead what squares will bet.. If they know Lakers true line is Lakers -8.5, they will make it Lakers -9, or -9.5 and 83% will be on Lakers -9.5, cause avg bettor doesn't know any better. He can't calculate a real line. When cubs real line is -220 at home, they make it -245 knowing the world will be on Zambrano at home and all bet cubs..When square sees Cowboys at -3, they jump thinking they got a deal.. Books are laughing, cause they know when they made the line, that the cowboys true line is -2.. They can play around with you and avg bettor will NEVER know he is getting ripped off.


    Bettors can never distinguish what a real line is, so books can do whatever they want with line, charge you 0% juice, and still beat you.. now can you imagine how bad a bettor does at -110? Just to let you know, the books don't need the juice to bankrupt the avg player, they can do it with no juice, and you'd still go broke.. That's why every square loses $$ much faster than the avg bettor because they are laying -14.5 on Lakers at -110, when real line is probably -13.. Book knows what avg bettor will bet, so why make it -13, when they can make Lakers -14.5, they're still going to bet it..

    Bottom line is, books know what a true line on a game is and bettor doesnt.. Books know what your avg bettor will bet and they can do whatever they want with the line and bettor will still bet it.. and 95% of avg bettors will bet it cause they usually bet the same.. books know this.. which is why all squares lose

    moral of the story.. if you think you are losing because of the juice, think again.. even without any juice at all, or even if you got +103 on every game.. INSTEAD of -110, your avg bettor would still go broke cause the book is always going to be 23 steps ahead of you. That's why avg bettor will never hit more than 50%>
  • sofun
    SBR Sharp
    • 05-22-08
    • 361

    #2
    good statement Nicky, but but I do't think your explaination is all correct, as you can see that there are more and more books are stiffed and going out of business, that's because they won't know what is happening out there as well.
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    • ipickwinners
      SBR MVP
      • 01-06-08
      • 3136

      #3
      hmm
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      • dwaechte
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-27-07
        • 5481

        #4
        This is probably true for your average bettor for the reasons you explained, and especially true for the average bettor with poor money management skills.
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        • SlickFazzer
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-22-08
          • 20209

          #5
          Solid article Nicky.
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          • Nicky Santoro
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-08-08
            • 16103

            #6
            sofun,

            the reason why books go broke is because they let sharp guys bet into them, and they get greedy giving them too much on a game, or not moving line accordingly, or they never lowered their bets, or never boot them out... The example of lakers opening -6.5 and everyone loves it and it closes at -4 is because sharps know that the real line is -4, but the squares didn't know this and bet it big at -6.5, not knowing real line is -4..

            If it wasn't for the sharpies, books would make a killing at no juice with the avg player by making lakers -6.5 and not -4 cause they'd all still bet it. avg players don't know the difference between a line with value and a line without value.


            If this industry didn't have the pro bettors, the avg bettors would be dead. they'd be betting cowboys -3, instead of -1.. the squares need the sharpies to bring down the line for them and make them now bet at fair price, or squares would get smoked. books would take so much advantage of them, that they wouldn't even hit 47%, cause squares dont know what a good line is or isn't..
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            • fiveteamer
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-14-08
              • 10805

              #7
              Nicky, the only people who go broke are the guys betting over their heads.
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              • sofun
                SBR Sharp
                • 05-22-08
                • 361

                #8
                Nicky, I totally agree with your statement, but gambler nowaday is different than 10 years ago, majority players think twice before they placing the bets. off course in over all the book with take advantage with JUICE, they are not going to servive without JUICE.

                let say the JUICE is the money where they can help to pay for all the head count in the department or rent.
                basicly the book did not charge players any JUICE dollars at all and they also give away many things like bonus, sharpie players,

                once again I don't agree with you that the books out there know the real lines as you mention like Laker, or other team, the points spread and under over adjust depend on the team player status.
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                • betplom
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-20-06
                  • 13444

                  #9
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                  • AMBlai01
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-16-08
                    • 5882

                    #10
                    Plommer! nice of you to join the party!
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                    • betplom
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-20-06
                      • 13444

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AMBlai01
                      Plommer! nice of you to join the party!
                      Yeah, it's nice to be here.
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                      • InTheHole
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-28-08
                        • 15243

                        #12
                        :sad
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                        • donjuan
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-29-07
                          • 3993

                          #13
                          This post was idiotic on so many levels. Glad I missed it the first time around.
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                          • bettilimbroke999
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-04-08
                            • 13254

                            #14
                            I do think today's gambler is sharper in general just b/c of the internet, think of how hard it was before the internet to look up records and injury reports, hell no normal bettor would have even gone through the trouble, now it takes 5 secs to click on espn or rotoworld so its just natural to get information you would've never gotten before, thats said I've still gotten killed these last 3 months so SOFTEN UP YOUR FUKIN LINES BOOKS
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                            • andywend
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-20-07
                              • 4805

                              #15
                              Nicky, you're wrong about so many different things that its not worth the time to list them all.
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                              • shooterman
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 08-19-08
                                • 443

                                #16
                                I used to book small no juice bets from from guys who didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. I never had to pay any of them. They lost religiously.
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                                • Mudcat
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 07-21-05
                                  • 9287

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by donjuan
                                  This post was idiotic on so many levels. Glad I missed it the first time around.

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                                  • pavyracer
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-12-07
                                    • 82897

                                    #18
                                    The author of this "article" gets his losing picks from God.
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