What Should I do with BetCascade?

Dark Horse · 08-02-06, 04:15 PM

Take the reduced juice. (worth far more than a lousy 10% bonus).

rolemand · 08-02-06, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Take the reduced juice.

I agree - It's a no brainer

bigboydan · 08-02-06, 04:17 PM

personaly i'd take the -105 vig.

this book i doubt will cut your limits at all. cacade does carters to all bettors, and your money is safe.

isetcap · 08-02-06, 04:17 PM

If you are a real player looking to have an extended relationship with this book then you should take the -105 pricing. It will easily pay off in the long run.

isetcap · 08-02-06, 04:18 PM

How's that for an answer to your question?

JoshW · 08-02-06, 04:19 PM

Take the -105. They won't cut your limits. If you beat them on moves, you might get a 30 second delay added before your bet will be processed, but for most players this won't be an issue.

rolemand · 08-02-06, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by lakerfan

Take the -105. They won't cut your limits. If you beat them on moves, you might get a 30 second delay added before your bet will be processed, but for most players this won't be an issue.

Lakerfan - Does the delay "feel like" 30 seconds or is it really 30 seconds? Because that's an eternity.

DrSlamm · 08-02-06, 04:44 PM

its 10 seconds or so

rolemand · 08-02-06, 05:06 PM

Thanks Slamm

Doug · 08-02-06, 05:27 PM

I almost opened an account there today myself. One thing that always kept me away was the lack of free withdrawals at Cascade.

How often could I expect them to have the best line ( bases) when I already have Pinnacle, Jamaica, Mansion, Matchbook, 5D, SIA, Wagerweb, and a few more.

Can you change to low juice after getting the bonus and rolling it at full juice ? I'd do that if you could change, otherwise -105.

Just how useful are they ?

Justin7 · 08-02-06, 05:53 PM

I'm speaking from experience (and not as an SBR mod)...

Having 2 reduced-juice outs instead of 1 will save you about 2 cents per bet (if you are a large player - small players can do beat these prices with aggressive small market shopping). If pinny is your only low-juice out, they will have the best price on the screen about 1/3 of the time for any option. Add Cascade, and one of those two raise it to half the time.

Now that Hollywood is a retail shop, I think of Cascade as a "must-have" out.

Doug · 08-02-06, 06:23 PM

How about when you toss in the two exchanges that get the bulk already, and the Jammy dimeline to -190. I can't see Cascade being best very often. I'll probably open soon and find out.

pags11 · 08-03-06, 12:41 AM

if I played with more than fivc books, cascade would be my sixth book...very good book IMO...

Doug · 08-03-06, 01:02 AM

I'll give them a test drive, don't expect much. I think they won't fit me because I hate withdrawal fees.

pags11 · 08-03-06, 01:06 AM

as do I doug...the main reasons they didn't make my top 5 were the withdrawal fees, also I could never get a hold of their CS on the phone, and I read you have to call them to let them know you've made a deposit...still a good book though...

Doug · 08-03-06, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by pags11

as do I doug...the main reasons they didn't make my top 5 were the withdrawal fees, also I could never get a hold of their CS on the phone, and I read you have to call them to let them know you've made a deposit...still a good book though...

I'll send like $300-500, just so I can check them out. I don't withdraw 20k in a crack often, more like 2k, but very frequently, so Mansion and Matchbook seem way better for me. I'm always re-balancing stuff, and fees of 1% don't work ( they charge $25 from what I hear). I shall find out for myself, I'll know pretty quickly if they fit me, early thought is no fit. I've been meaning to try them for years anyhow.

Richard@Cascade · 08-03-06, 06:39 PM

Right now you can get 10% cash bonus and -105 lines.

or

20% and -110 lines.

The bonus max is $500 and carries a 6 times rollover.

Valid for new accounts and 45 day inactives.

Santo · 08-03-06, 06:51 PM

Richard: Has email support improved since last year? I rarely got replies before I stopped using you guys after Football, and had to go to Live Chat. Who do I email to confirm elegibility?

Also I see the site looks slightly different, wonder if the delay after placing bets and before confirmation has dissapeared ;-)

~S

DrSlamm · 08-03-06, 07:05 PM

never got a reply from my last email

TheGambler · 08-03-06, 08:03 PM

Richard, I thought that the first time deposit only had a 3x rollover policy and then it was 6x for re-ups. Also, do you get to keep the -105 pricing forever if you sign up now and you take the 10% bonus with it? Last question, what counts towards roll-over? Risk, Win, or smaller of the two?

I appreciate you posting on here and I look forward to doing business with you guys.

rolemand · 08-03-06, 08:07 PM

Richard@cascade - since there doesn't appear to the option online to get the 10% and the -105 I assume we would need to call customer service and sign up to get this offer?

Is that correct?

Doug · 08-03-06, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Richard@Cascade

Right now you can get 10% cash bonus and -105 lines.

or

20% and -110 lines.

The bonus max is $500 and carries a 6 times rollover.

Valid for new accounts and 45 day inactives.

I opened today and didn't get the 10% bonus, is it too late ?

pags11 · 08-04-06, 02:54 AM

see what I mean about the CS...and what's up with the calling to make sure they know you deposited money with them?...

increasedodds · 08-04-06, 04:44 AM

Your math is poor. .75% of $500,000 is $3750, not 375...

Assuming you hit 50% of your wagers, the -105 will save you approximately 2.5% (A much better deal than the .75%)

If you bet 500000 and hit 50%:

With .75 you are down $21350.

With -105, you are down $12,500.

Obviously you plan to hit over 50% but either way, it is a not brainer.

Now if you just bet money lines or props, the .75 deal is a good one. (Some people might have more than one account)

-Sean

Richard@Cascade · 08-04-06, 10:11 AM

There usually is no bonus on the -105 juice option. I am putting that out for foots this season. If you have made a deposit, and no bonus was credited, drop me a mail and I will get it handled for you.

As far as the three times rollover is concerned, that is for the original 10% with -110 lines. I have moved that t0 20% at 6 times rollover as a football special. You will see this reflected on the site soon, and we will also be sending out some mail.

The rollover is calculated on the smaller of the two risk/win factors.

People who qualify are new accounts, and 45 day inactive accounts.

I will take a look into the delay complaint, but nobody has a 30 second delay that I am aware of. Remember that at a wager counter in Vegas, there is a line to wait in, and the bets come in basically a few at a time. Online, there is no such luxury, and the bets can come very large and very fast across several products.

Hopefully, this answers some of your questions. Feel free to hit RichardJ@BetCascade.com if you need further assistance.

I am available at almost all times. Use 1-800-517-3275, and they will transfer to my cell if I am out of the office.

TheGambler · 08-04-06, 12:52 PM

Thanks Richard for your help in explaining this to us. I appreciate honesty up front and like I said earlier, I plan on using you guys with -105 lines and I look forward to doing business with you. Thanks again.

Richard@Cascade · 08-04-06, 04:37 PM

TheGambler,

My pleasure, and all input is welcome good or bad. It helps us improve along the way.

Regards,

Richard

derek · 08-04-06, 05:13 PM

richard,
are -105 players also able to get a reload bonus for your football promo??if so what are terms?

thanks,
derek

Richard@Cascade · 08-04-06, 06:33 PM

Derek,

The promo is good for new accounts and 45 day or greater inactives.

Regards,

Richard

bigboydan · 08-04-06, 08:43 PM

thanks for the clarification richard

Doug · 08-04-06, 09:57 PM

bonus added promptly.

derek · 08-04-06, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by Richard@Cascade

Derek,

The promo is good for new accounts and 45 day or greater inactives.

Regards,

Richard

thanks for quick reply.. also how long will you be running this promo?

RickySteve · 08-05-06, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

I'm speaking from experience (and not as an SBR mod)...

Having 2 reduced-juice outs instead of 1 will save you about 2 cents per bet (if you are a large player - small players can do beat these prices with aggressive small market shopping). If pinny is your only low-juice out, they will have the best price on the screen about 1/3 of the time for any option. Add Cascade, and one of those two raise it to half the time.

Now that Hollywood is a retail shop, I think of Cascade as a "must-have" out.

Cascade has the best price 16.67% of the time?

hahahahahahahahaha

Doug · 08-05-06, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by RickySteve

Cascade has the best price 16.67% of the time?

hahahahahahahahaha

agree ! I'm not saying they don't have close to the best price often. I don't check the board, I check what I'm going to bet.

Mansion, Matchbook, and Pinnacle are a tough trio to beat. Add in the Skybook style no free withdrawal, and they become less useful. I'll keep checking, and re-up if they ever have the best line.

A third is 33.33 %, also. Maybe they are better on football ?