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  • pico
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    • 04-05-07
    • 27321

    #36
    Originally posted by l7ustin
    what if we make the same pick but i make mine at 2 am and you take the raptors -2 today an hour before the tip off? because we are using live lines i dont see a need for a penalty. but if you are going to do a penalty i would do more than .01 maybe like .05 or even .1
    i want to prevent people who have the lead to tail someone to have a guranteed win. i guess i should make the penalty more like 0.2 unit.
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    • pico
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      • 04-05-07
      • 27321

      #37
      Originally posted by gm2022
      ill play if you add more spots!
      i'll have more spots in the prize round next week.
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      • gm2022
        SBR MVP
        • 02-28-08
        • 4128

        #38
        Originally posted by pico
        i'll have more spots in the prize round next week.
        if anyone drops this 1st round let me know!
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        • Willie Bee
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-14-06
          • 15726

          #39
          Coming soon: Bee's Bowling & Balling Invitational. If you've been a good little poster and have 2,500+ posts, look for a PM shortly. If you have 2500+ posts and don't get a PM, well that's because Santa said you've been naughty.
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          • RogueJuror
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-08-08
            • 10010

            #40
            good job pico man

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            • Iwinyourmoney
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-18-07
              • 18368

              #41
              Gonzaga -4 -110
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              • pico
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 04-05-07
                • 27321

                #42
                addressing bbyhill's question: We use Pinny lines at the time we post so the line could be different for everybody?

                please post the pinny line odds at the time of your post. if the line is a little different than what you posted, i'll make the final call on the odds.

                yes everyone will have a slight different line if they pick the same side at different time (maybe even different spread...so one might push and other might win if it is gotten at different spreads).

                I decided to have 0.1 unit penalty on repeated picks. So if someone else has post a pick before you, if you win, you'll get a 0.1 unit deduction. For example: Iwinyourmoney picked lakers -4.5 @+105, then the line moved to -6 and pimike took lakers at -6 @ -102 3 hours later. let's say lakers won big, (not counting style points) Iwinyoutmoney will win 1.05 units, and pimike will only win 0.9 units (1 unit minus 0.1 penalty). The 0.1 unit penalty is the same for everyone posted after the first post.
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                • pico
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                  • 04-05-07
                  • 27321

                  #43
                  if repeated picks lost, then penalty won't matter.
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63172

                    #44
                    gonzaga under 116.5 -105
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                    • bbyhill
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-16-07
                      • 2991

                      #45
                      723 TCU -1 -105

                      lets get it started

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                      • yisman
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-01-08
                        • 75682

                        #46
                        San Antonio Spurs -6.5 (-105)
                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                        [/quote]

                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                        • blittydeuce
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-11-08
                          • 5572

                          #47
                          Dayton +6.5 -107
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                          • compaqDikk
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-08-05
                            • 5699

                            #48
                            pico fukk the private capeing contest, i'm all about exploring your private region for free
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                            • I.R.B
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-12-08
                              • 3209

                              #49
                              Originally posted by pat venditto
                              Format isn't to show skill but short term luck i wont let an eggroll fuk you like beat me by lucksacking with the cheifs.
                              Patty Stfu..
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                              • InTheHole
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 04-28-08
                                • 15243

                                #50
                                Play #1 Gonzaga -5.5 -110
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                                • pico
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 04-05-07
                                  • 27321

                                  #51
                                  revising the style point rules before grade it for first time:

                                  Style Points (for every pick):
                                  • 1 unit: there is no doubt the side is covering from the beginning of the game
                                  • 0.5 unit: good win, but you have to sweat it out at some point during the game. <--this seems like a stupid rule, so this rule is no longer in effect.
                                  • 0.5 unit: bad beat. miracle last second screw job
                                  • -0.5 unit: ugly win or lucky win
                                  • -1 unit: side getting blown out bad


                                  because i realized i don't have style points for "regular loss, came close to cover couple of times". to make it even, a regular win/loss will have no style points.
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                                  • InTheHole
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-28-08
                                    • 15243

                                    #52
                                    Play #2 Dallas Stars -132
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                                    • pico
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                                      • 04-05-07
                                      • 27321

                                      #53
                                      the purpose of style points is giving a break to those good picks but just got screwed by few points. or give less weight to lucky wins or sweat your balls off wins.
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                                      • pimike
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                                        • 03-23-08
                                        • 37140

                                        #54
                                        Pick 1 San Diego State +6.5
                                        Pick 2 Penguins +110
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                                        • losturmarbles
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-01-08
                                          • 4604

                                          #55
                                          pico,
                                          its a 1.5 unit swing from having +1 to having -.5 if your team didnt win big or got lucky etc. or from having -1 to have +.5 if they got screwed over. dont you think thats a little extreme?

                                          this will only prove who can pick winners that dont have controversial endings, and who can pick losers that you think shouldve won.

                                          a capper has no control of how the game is decided.

                                          why not
                                          +1 for honest win
                                          +.5 for shady win
                                          -.5 for shady loss
                                          -1 for honest loss

                                          or maybe 0 units for shady either way.

                                          just my thoughts
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                                          • pico
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                                            • 04-05-07
                                            • 27321

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by losturmarbles
                                            pico,
                                            its a 1.5 unit swing from having +1 to having -.5 if your team didnt win big or got lucky etc. or from having -1 to have +.5 if they got screwed over. dont you think thats a little extreme?

                                            this will only prove who can pick winners that dont have controversial endings, and who can pick losers that you think shouldve won.

                                            a capper has no control of how the game is decided.

                                            why not
                                            +1 for honest win
                                            +.5 for shady win
                                            -.5 for shady loss
                                            -1 for honest loss

                                            or maybe 0 units for shady either way.

                                            just my thoughts
                                            this week is trial run. i'll make adjustments before the prize round.

                                            so under my style points system, you get big bonus for picking blow outs. if it is a close win/loss, then you picked a rubber game, so win/loss is more random than skill for both teams. in that situation, the results (win/lose) shouldn't matter that much. you get heavily penalized for picking a team that gotten blow out from the start of the game...either you missed some key injury info, or you picked a too unpredictable game.

                                            the goal here is to rewards "confident" picks. i know all the games are kind of random, but there are always angles you can find that helps you to identify blow out games.

                                            in the prize round, i am thinking about max 1 pick per day, 20 picks for 4 weeks. that way, you better post your most confident pick of the day. if your most confident pick gotten blown out, you deserve to get the 1 unit deduction.
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                                            • pico
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                                              • 04-05-07
                                              • 27321

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by losturmarbles
                                              pico,
                                              its a 1.5 unit swing from having +1 to having -.5 if your team didnt win big or got lucky etc. or from having -1 to have +.5 if they got screwed over. dont you think thats a little extreme?

                                              this will only prove who can pick winners that dont have controversial endings, and who can pick losers that you think shouldve won.

                                              a capper has no control of how the game is decided.

                                              why not
                                              +1 for honest win
                                              +.5 for shady win
                                              -.5 for shady loss
                                              -1 for honest loss

                                              or maybe 0 units for shady either way.

                                              just my thoughts
                                              your calculation is not what i have in mind. the style point deduction for lucky win is 0.5 unit, so if you got a luck win at -110. you'll only get +0.5 unit (+1 for the win minus 0.5 unit for lucky win).
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                                              • blittydeuce
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-11-08
                                                • 5572

                                                #58
                                                2)
                                                Phoenix Coyotes+1½ -245 +118
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                                                • blittydeuce
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 06-11-08
                                                  • 5572

                                                  #59
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                                                  2) Phoenix Coyotes +118


                                                  edit: ML, not PL
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                                                  • bbyhill
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-16-07
                                                    • 2991

                                                    #60
                                                    pk2
                                                    720 Havard under 133.5 -105
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                                                    • MickChunky
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-31-06
                                                      • 1452

                                                      #61
                                                      706 Cleveland Cavaliers -6.5 +100
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                                                      • Tsoprano
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                                                        • 04-14-08
                                                        • 26374

                                                        #62
                                                        Pico, how come the picks need to be one hour before the start of the game. Either way its before tip off.

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                                                        • bbyhill
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-16-07
                                                          • 2991

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by bbyhill
                                                          pk2
                                                          720 Havard under 133.5 -105


                                                          guess this didnt count
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                                                          • Nicky Santoro
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-08-08
                                                            • 16103

                                                            #64
                                                            this might very well be the silliest contest i have ever seen..

                                                            pico is going to judge if a game is a good win or not? this is a judgment call.. what a good win might be for one person, doesn't mean the other guy will see it the same.

                                                            it's like judging a girl and saying she is a 10 or not. if we talk about Angelina Jolie, alot will say she is a 10, but i dont find her anywhere near a 10.. i think she's a 6.5.. i can name 359 girls nicer than her.. so if pico says she's a 10, i lose pts??

                                                            This should be fun with the arguments.. fasten your seatbelts.. i just hope we see a lot of weird games..
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                                                            • Bread
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-16-08
                                                              • 23726

                                                              #65
                                                              Lots of problems forthcoming with Pico judgment calls on how a game is finalized. I actually agree with Nicky here.

                                                              I'll enjoy the drama.
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                                                              • pico
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                                                                • 04-05-07
                                                                • 27321

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Tsoprano
                                                                Pico, how come the picks need to be one hour before the start of the game. Either way its before tip off.

                                                                I am thinking about changing that rule, so all you have to do is post it before the tip off/kick off.

                                                                I wanted the 1 hour lead time, so if people wants to bet your picks, they got an hour. But i guess it is more trouble than good.

                                                                What do you guys want? Just post it before the start of the game or post it 1-2 hours before the start of the game?
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                                                                • pico
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                                                                  • 04-05-07
                                                                  • 27321

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by bbyhill
                                                                  guess this didnt count
                                                                  that counts. don't worry. this is a practice round. i want to fix all the disputes before the prize round.

                                                                  I donno if i want to keep the 1 hour rule for the prize round because I kinda want to give everyone a chance to bet. On the other hand, most of you probably only pay attention to the starting time.

                                                                  No late penalty for you today because I am still working everything out. I am thinking about using the following penalty rule for late picks:

                                                                  • Picks posted before the start of the game but not one hour before will have a 0.1 unit penalty regardless win or loss.
                                                                  • Picks posted after the start of the game will count as a loss and a -1.0 unit deduction for "bad style".


                                                                  I'll PM each one of you updated rules after i grade these for today.
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                                                                  • pico
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 04-05-07
                                                                    • 27321

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                                    this might very well be the silliest contest i have ever seen..

                                                                    pico is going to judge if a game is a good win or not? this is a judgment call.. what a good win might be for one person, doesn't mean the other guy will see it the same.

                                                                    it's like judging a girl and saying she is a 10 or not. if we talk about Angelina Jolie, alot will say she is a 10, but i dont find her anywhere near a 10.. i think she's a 6.5.. i can name 359 girls nicer than her.. so if pico says she's a 10, i lose pts??

                                                                    This should be fun with the arguments.. fasten your seatbelts.. i just hope we see a lot of weird games..
                                                                    that is why this is a private contest. i make the call.

                                                                    This is the guideline i'll use. I won't be watching tv, just the scoreboard. The style points is based on if I have no TV and only can watch the espn scoreboard...how good will i feel about the pick.

                                                                    I'll see how may people complain after i grade these.
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                                                                    • pico
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 04-05-07
                                                                      • 27321

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Bread
                                                                      Lots of problems forthcoming with Pico judgment calls on how a game is finalized. I actually agree with Nicky here.

                                                                      I'll enjoy the drama.
                                                                      if you like drama. I am going to have 30 slots open for the prize round.

                                                                      I'll try to be as objective as I can be. The reason i want this to be a private contest is I don't have to debate with people. Unless I made a really bad judgement call, my decision will stand.
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                                                                      • avssakic
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-12-07
                                                                        • 1795

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Anaheim Ducks -190 ML
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