Saint Andrew's Plays

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 09:37 AM

Sunday Dec 6

3-team teaser (-130)

1. Football - Green Bay Packers - spread +4 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 7 at 1:00pm [pending]
2. Football - New York Giants - spread +3½ (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 7 at 1:00pm [pending]
3. Football - New York Jets - spread +6½ (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 7 at 4:05pm [pending]

TheGambler · 12-07-08, 11:50 AM

hey saint, you seem to be doing well lately. i wanted to let you know that i do all of my teaser bets at youwager.com. they have the most options and best odds. payouts are better than any other book in my opinion. bonuses are great also. for example, i played the same 3 team 10 point teaser but my juice is only -110. Just wanted to give you a heads up. congrats on the recent success and i plan on tailing you for a while.

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by TheGambler

hey saint, you seem to be doing well lately. i wanted to let you know that i do all of my teaser bets at youwager.com. they have the most options and best odds. payouts are better than any other book in my opinion. bonuses are great also. for example, i played the same 3 team 10 point teaser but my juice is only -110. Just wanted to give you a heads up. congrats on the recent success and i plan on tailing you for a while.

You're telling me that the teaser I posted today is -110 at your site. How is it possible for them to remain profitable?

TheGambler · 12-07-08, 12:03 PM

they are known for their great teasers and odds. the only reason some don't play there is b/c they will call you at your house to reload your account when you cash out. it doesn't bother me b/c i usually get a 40% bonus to do so. seriously, this is a very reliable shop and i think you will like their teaser options. they even have the 21 point teaser on football. seems easy but doesn't always work out!! hopefully others can support me on this.

durito · 12-07-08, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by St. Andrew

You're telling me that the teaser I posted today is -110 at your site. How is it possible for them to remain profitable?

presumably they have players that do things like tease a 3.5pt favorite in the NFL

mundane · 12-07-08, 12:10 PM

tailed u on this one.

i consider st andrew a very good capper! tailed him on baseball and made some money!

bol to us fellas!

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by durito

presumably they have players that do things like tease a 3.5pt favorite in the NFL

I'll rememebr this comment if the Eagles win by a FG.

durito · 12-07-08, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by St. Andrew

I'll rememebr this comment if the Eagles win by a FG.

The Jets are the 3.5pt favorite.

Anyway, answer me these questions:

What % chances do you think the three teams in your teaser have of covering their respective pt spread?

What % chances do they each have then with the 10pts?

What is the break even win % of each leg of a 3 team 10 pt teaser at -130?

What have spreads of -3.5, -6.5, and -6 historically won at when teased 10pts?

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by durito

The Jets are the 3.5pt favorite.

Anyway, answer me these questions:

What % chances do you think the three teams in your teaser have of covering their respective pt spread?

What % chances do they each have then with the 10pts?

What is the break even win % of each leg of a 3 team 10 pt teaser at -130?

What have spreads of -3.5, -6.5, and -6 historically won at when teased 10pts?

I expect them all to cover their respective ATS lines. So I put them into a teaser to make it a "lock" (so to speak, nothing is a lock). Read my first post, I am willling to pay juice for a high win %.

By the way Durito, you keep harping on the same themes. It's strange that you always seem to find a way to comment on my wagering style, despite the fact that I could give a shit less what you do with yours. How about you do your thing, and I'll do mine?

durito · 12-07-08, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by St. Andrew

By the way Durito, you keep harping on the same themes. It's strange that you always seem to find a way to comment on my wagering style, despite the fact that I could give a shit less what you do with yours. How about you do your thing, and I'll do mine?

I am attempting to help you. Irregardless of what you think, the teaser you just played is -EV. There are plenty of +EV teasers in the NFL.

If you don't want to learn so be it. Personally I am always willing to learn new things.

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by durito

I am attempting to help you. Irregardless of what you think, the teaser you just played is -EV. There are plenty of +EV teasers in the NFL.

If you don't want to learn so be it. Personally I am always willing to learn new things.

"Irregardless" is not a word. You can help me by never responding to one of my posts again.

Thanks, and good luck.

BamaBill67 · 12-07-08, 12:50 PM

You are the man Saint...........I knew my Bama bet was toast yesterday when I saw you took Fl-10.

FreeFall · 12-07-08, 12:57 PM

your on a good hot streak and I wish you the best, but from what I've seen in your plays it will turn to bad. Hopefully you can catch it and not go on tilt and find something "new." So much for your rules, because they'd help you here.

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by FreeFall

your on a good hot streak and I wish you the best, but from what I've seen in your plays it will turn to bad. Hopefully you can catch it and not go on tilt and find something "new." So much for your rules, because they'd help you here.

I have gone all-in when I thought it was to my advantage. I have won half the time and lost half the time when i do that. I don't recommend it for the average bettor.

I may find something "new" tomorrow. I may go all-in tomorrow and lose. The "15 Rules" were for baseball and I will use them in baseball. Or I will be broke by then. I play each day by ear and what the stats show me...I don't bet from fear. I laugh at betting fear, and I'm not afraid to lose money.

Right now I'm doing what works, that's all I can say.

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 03:48 PM

Added Plays....Dec 7

Teaser Jets / Pats

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by St. Andrew

Added Plays....Dec 7

Teaser Jets / Pats

Another added play:

Jets -4

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 07:13 PM

Sunday Dec 7

Ravens -6.5

St. Andrew · 12-07-08, 07:53 PM

Sunday Dec 7

3-team late teaser

1. Basketball - Kansas State - spread +9 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 7 at 8:30pm [pending]
2. Basketball - UCLA - spread -14 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 7 at 10:30pm [pending]
3. Football - Baltimore Ravens - spread +3½ (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 7 at 8:15pm [pending]

St. Andrew · 12-08-08, 06:07 PM

Sunday's Result: 2-3

Monday Teaser

1. Football - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - spread +13 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 8 at 8:35pm [pending]
2. Basketball - TCU - spread +5 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 8 at 9:00pm [pending]
3. Basketball - Lamar - spread +34 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 8 at 7:00pm [pending]

St. Andrew · 12-09-08, 12:24 PM

Monday's Result: 0-1

Tuesday Dec 9

1. Basketball - Iowa State - spread +4 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 9 at 9:00pm [pending]
2. Basketball - Villanova - spread +9 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 9 at 9:20pm [pending]
3. Basketball - Davidson - spread +9 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 9 at 7:00pm [pending]

Shark79 · 12-09-08, 01:02 PM

St.

How many units are u putting on these teasers?

St. Andrew · 12-09-08, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Shark79

St.

How many units are u putting on these teasers?

I always put 11% of my bankroll on each bet. Once I win two in a row, I increase my bet by one-half of the previous bet. Example: $190 (win), $190 (win), $285 (win), etc...

Once I lose a bet, I always go back to 1/11th of my bankroll. Yesterday I lost, so today my bet is for $190, which is 1/11th of my bankroll. My goal is to win 12 bets in a row, which I have done four times this year. This system I call "Heaven's Gate". I also use it at the blackjack table using perfect basic strategy, and usually walk away a winner. This system minimizes losses (because you're decreasing your bet proportionately after losses) but maiximizes win streaks for huge profits.

Chi_archie · 12-09-08, 06:04 PM

I adapted heaven's gate to my betting/money management style in the summer, after reading your 12 or whatever the number of rules was...

works well for me, because i'm just a recreational gambler and don't ever really wanna lose my shirt and have to stop gambling for awhile...and I tend to be streaky...

Shark79 · 12-09-08, 07:00 PM

nice ... any link to see this thread?

St. Andrew · 12-10-08, 05:58 PM

Tuesday's Result: PUSH

Wednesday Teasers

Teaser #1

1. Basketball - Harvard - spread +9½ (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 10 at 7:00pm [pending]
2. Basketball - Mississippi State - spread -½ (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 10 at 7:00pm [pending]
3. Basketball - Butler - spread +7 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 10 at 8:00pm [pending]

Teaser #2

1. Basketball - Colorado State - spread +10½ (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 10 at 10:00pm [pending]
2. Basketball - Boise State - spread +26 (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 10 at 10:00pm [pending]
3. Basketball - Evansville - spread -8½ (-110)
for the entire game held on Dec 10 at 8:00pm [pending]