Not claiming this is why nd lost, so dont get your panties in a bunch
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Bigday has his hole wrastlin team on antler spray...Comment -
Just another cheap money grab by scumbag businessmen. Deer antler spray is just like any other BS fad in the supplement industry. IGF1, just like growth hormone, can't be absorbed orally. It can't make it through the stomach. You can spray that crap all day long, it will have zero effect on your IGF1 levels. If they were getting it injected that would be a different story, but as of now every scientific analysis says that it can't be absorbed orally.
Hate seeing the media not know what the fukk they're talking about and making greasy pricks like Christopher Key get the publicity they need to make millions on a stupid productComment -
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Fukking idiot.. Antlet spray doesn't work if you spray it.. lot of dumbfukks around here..Comment -
if you are saying something sprayed on doesn't get absorbed then you're wrong.Comment -
its all a gimmick, if you want to beleive something is going to help you then it will. That being said if its banned its banned so no should be using itComment -
Read in my local paper that both Bama & Lsu used the spray prior to the 2011 champ game....Bama says owners of SWAT refused to abide by TWO cease and desist orders....Comment -
Notre Dame players used Holy Water but it didn't work out as good as deer antlers.Comment -
No. IGF1 can't survive the conditions of the stomach. Period. There is zero evidence proving otherwise. The companies that push this crap use studies on rats to verify their claims, not studies on humans. IGF1 MUST be injected to be effective, and even then it is only recommended to people with years of steroid use and dedicated lifting/diet/bodybuilding experience. It is not for young athletes. It can grow your internal organs, which along with HGH is why a fair amount of athletes have big guts, even with a 6pack.
Oral spray IGF1 is a scam.Comment -
Look idk how it works and frankly dont really care. But Vijay Singh just withdrew from the waste management open and is expected to get a suspension from the pga for using it. I cant imagine these guys would be putting this stuff in their mouth for shits and giggles, or to freshen their breathe. They are using it because they believe it to enhance their performance.Comment -
That's great. Just because they believe it helps doesn't mean it does help. There are other things in the spray that may help (players like Heath Evans said they felt rested/slept better), but the only thing in it that is banned at this point is IGF1, which can't even get to the muscles when taken in spray form. It might as well not be in there.Comment -
For people who are curious about the potency... if you get it from a legitimate pharmaceutical dude... it's highly potent. But if you purchase it from an online retailer... like A1Supplements.com, GNC... etc it's not potent at all. It's just like anything in life... the good sh#$ is never available to the public.Comment -
Furthermore, what sucks for people like Vijay Singh... if he's caught with the online retailer version... there's a trace of it in there. But not even close to what the bigger company's have in their formula. Point being... it's probably not even working for Singh... he was better off not using it. But... since there are traces of it in his system... they have to fine him. It's like anything in life... if you're going to do it... DO IT BIG!Comment -
Basically this. The legit stuff is expensive, and will be taken by injections. The BS stuff is the spray.
The biggest reason the spray is banned is because a player successfully sued the company for $5 million after he failed a drug test... he claimed the spray had traces of synthetic testosterone, resulting in his failed test and subsequent suspension. The same guy who owned that now dead company owns the one currently being named in these stories, SWATS. He made a boatload on the publicity a few years ago, and now he's trying it again.Comment -
good as a magnetic bracelt for a golfer ..if it is sprayed onComment -
so what? it not like Bama backers will have to return their winnings.Comment -
Its not pros that are buying it up, its regular people. Go into your local GNC, Vitamin Shoppe, etc and ask the employees if they've sold a lot of that spray in the last few days. I have a friend who works for a GNC... they hadn't sold a bottle of that in 6 months, they sold out this week. Its regular gym goers who want a boost and what the pros take, regardless of its effectivenessComment -
Insane!!!Comment -
Ray Lewis, Mark McGuire. That power lifter what's his face.Comment -
just make your won, deer antlers, a grinder, an oven, syringe and saline, boom... IM GONNA BE HUGE IN MONTHS!!!Comment
