OJ is getting 18 years?? WTF?

[The Seer]

I will never forget hanging out at my friends place when the whole white suburban chase .

It was a white Ford Bronco.

[The Seer]

He sounds like he's about to cry.

[Kingctb27]

The Juice is smooth.

[Curse Fire]

Juice got it stuck in him and broken off !!!




Go Juice Go!!!

[reno cool]

In a strange way he may have wanted to be caught. Why else would he have a book published 'If I did it" with all the gory detail? That was as close to a confession as you will ever see. To me OJ seems essentially a good guy, but one with a terrible temper. He never controlled the wild animal inside him. The non-animal side of him, call it his spiritual nature or whatever, may have wanted to see justice served.

People are strange.

Try putting yourself in his shoes. Almost everybody looks upon him as a murderer. Not much fun. And then he's a father who loves his kids. What if his daughter suddenly turned around, looked him in the eye, and said: 'You did kill mom!" Imagine the inner conflict he would have towards his kids. And imagine that build up for years... Just saying, a little thing could flip the switch and make him want to get his fair punishment.

Raskolnikov all over again

[wtf]

u think oj will make many new friends in the big house?

[Dark Horse]

Raskolnikov all over again

Wow.

Wikipedia:

Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov (Russian: Родион Романович Раскольников) is the fictional protagonist of Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky. The name Raskolnikov comes from the Russian raskolnik meaning "schismatic".

In film he has been portrayed for the first time by Grigori Chmara (1923) in the famous silent adaptation by Robert Wiene (with the decors by André Andrejew), and recently by John Simm (2002) Crispin Glover (2002) and Ilya Kremnov (2005).

Raskolnikov is a young ex-student of law living in extreme poverty in St Petersburg. Many characters state that he is very intelligent, and Raskolnikov himself occasionally thinks of himself as a genius. He lives in a tiny garret which he rents, although due to a lack of funds has been avoiding payment for quite some time (he claims the room aggravates his depression). He sleeps on a couch using old clothes as a pillow and doesn't eat much, although the landlady sometimes sends her servant in with food. He is frequently referred to as a former student because he doesn't have the money to finish his institute education. Emotionally and financially stressed, he is also socially inept and neurotic about small things, such as crowded spaces. Raskolnikov fluctuates between extremes of altruism and apathy. He is described by the narrator as "extremely handsome".

He murders a pawnbroker, Alyona Ivanovna, with an axe he found in a porter's woodshed, with the intention of using her money for good causes, based on a theory he had developed. Raskolnikov believed that people were divided into the "ordinary" and the "extraordinary": the ordinary are the common rabble, the extraordinary (notably Napoleon) must not follow the moral codes that affect the ordinary since they are meant to be great men. An extraordinary man would not need to think twice about his actions. He has been contemplating this theory for months, only telling it to his (now deceased) fiancée (although he wrote an article along those lines in a journal on the condition that only his initials be used to attribute it to him). He believes himself to be one of these extraordinary men and is thus allowed to commit murder. However, his plan goes wrong; before he is able to make his escape from the pawnbroker's flat, her meek sister arrives and stumbles across the body. Raskolnikov, in a panic, murders the pawnbroker's sister as well (Lizaveta Ivanovna), a crime which weighs far more heavily on his mind.

He finds a small purse on Alyona Ivanovna, which he hides under a rock without checking the contents of the purse. His grand failure is that he lacks the conviction he believed to accompany greatness and continues his decline into madness. After confessing to the destitute, pious prostitute Sonia Semyonovna Marmeladova, she guides him towards admitting to the crime, and he confesses to Ilya Petrovich, a police lieutenant with an explosive temper. Raskolnikov is sentenced to exile in Siberia, accompanied by Sonia, where he begins his mental and spiritual rehabilitation.

[wtf]

dont see the connection at all. oj has none of those traits. he ran fast with a football. wow.

[EBSB52]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ter&id=3744239

What is he like 61? I think he would have to serve at least 12 so hmmp he will be out when he's 73.

From what I heard about the case he should get about 5 years and actually do 3.5. Unless I got it wrong no one got hurt or kidnapped and held for ransom or anything. Was a strong arm thug stuff and he should pay but 18 years?

Would he have received the same sentence if he had not killed his wife and Ron?? If Joe namath did the same thing would he do an 18 year spot??

I haven't read this entire thread so this may have been addressed already. Kidnapping only requires the moving of people against their will a very few feet in most jurisdictions. Such as moving the workers to the back room, etc. The media and movies would have you believe it's putting them in the trunk and taking them to a warehouse - not so.

The worst part about the whole thing is the trial and lack of adherence to the US Const. 5 of the 12 jurors said tehy disagreed with the 95 murder acquittal and Judge Glass selected no black jurors but for alternates, so the 6th fair and speedy trial thing was blown big time.

This is an ends justifys the means country,s o we get the system we deserve.

[EBSB52]

Ill take even odds he dies in jail and never sees the outside world again!

Yea, that would be - money, as the parole board can do what they want.

[Dark Horse]

dont see the connection at all. oj has none of those traits. he ran fast with a football. wow.

You're right. No pigskin in old Mother Russia.

[EBSB52]

wow ebs, you have so much insight into this case. are you a detective?

or maybe a psychic.

maybe you can give us a few winners since you know everything.

What's your point, sarcasm? If I post factually correct information, why be that way?

[Scorpion]

aN INNOCENT man is going to jail

I bet fukking Fred Goldman is happy!

[jjgold]

I wonder if he will appeal?

He seems to of been railroaded

[SlickFazzer]

I wonder if he will appeal?

He seems to of been railroaded

Appeal will be filed Monday by his attorneys. Jury issues being a major factor used in appeal.

[EBSB52]

Appeal will be filed Monday by his attorneys. Jury issues being a major factor used in appeal.

Yea, 5 of the 12 primary jurors stated in their questionaire that they felt the 95 acquittal was wrong, so much for impartial. All of the blacks were tossed off the primary jury and made alternates as well, so much for a fair jury of your peers. This was a setup for the book, no doubt.

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

[reno cool]

dont see the connection at all. oj has none of those traits. he ran fast with a football. wow.

The connection mainly is that they're both, emotionally or subconsciously seeking their punishment.

[MBENZ]

Got off easy considering all the charges he was guilty of.The judge made a very good point,those triggerhappy idiots in a small room,what if somebody moved the wrong way?Did anybody listen to his codefendent?,I honestly believe if you put that guys brain in a bird,it would fly backwards.Quit crying,the bitch got what was coming to his ass.

[gm2022]

Maybe they can do a reality show in a Jail on OJ, kinda like the Truman show or something to that extent!

Doesn't he still owe a shit load of money to Nicoles family???

[wtf]

The connection mainly is that they're both, emotionally or subconsciously seeking their punishment.

amazing, to say or imply oj is a genius or anything remotely near that is hilarious.

he is a sociopath,thinks he is above the law, and just plain stupid.

i hope we never hear about him again, but i dont think this is possible.

[hoopster42]

roger cossack, lawyer and legal consultant for espn said, and i am paraphrasing: "its the guns that bother ppl, once there are guns involved there will be a very stiff sentence, the law is tired of guns, see plaxico burress case for reference"

i really wish ppl would stop trying to defend this guy. he got away with murder 14 yrs ago, now he got a stiffer sentence than what he probably should have according to most ppl, i say the hell with him, he shouldve rotted in jail for the murders but got lucky with a stupid jury in the murder trial, now he got what he deserved before, the irony is, getting away with murder made him feel above the law so he kept pushing his limits, and you can see what happened.

to hell with oj simpson, he is complete garbage

[EBSB52]

amazing, to say or imply oj is a genius or anything remotely near that is hilarious.

he is a sociopath,thinks he is above the law, and just plain stupid.

i hope we never hear about him again, but i dont think this is possible.

Right on all accounts, but the justice system is a process, a process that wasn't followed.

[EBSB52]

roger cossack, lawyer and legal consultant for espn said, and i am paraphrasing: "its the guns that bother ppl, once there are guns involved there will be a very stiff sentence, the law is tired of guns, see plaxico burress case for reference"

i really wish ppl would stop trying to defend this guy. he got away with murder 14 yrs ago, now he got a stiffer sentence than what he probably should have according to most ppl, i say the hell with him, he shouldve rotted in jail for the murders but got lucky with a stupid jury in the murder trial, now he got what he deserved before, the irony is, getting away with murder made him feel above the law so he kept pushing his limits, and you can see what happened.

to hell with oj simpson, he is complete garbage

This is convoluted and partially right, partially wrong.

1) i really wish ppl would stop trying to defend this guy.


- No one I hear/read is defending him. I can't see him being defended either.

2) he got away with murder 14 yrs ago, ...


- Yes, of course.


3) ...now he got a stiffer sentence than what he probably should have according to most ppl...


- I don't think his sentence is unfair based upon the convictions, it's the process at which they arived at the convictions I have an issue with.


4) ...i say the hell with him, ...


- Yes.


5) ...got lucky with a stupid jury in the murder trial...


- No, he got lucky with stupid cops and a great defense team, as well as having the trial in Calif didn't hurt either.


6) ...now he got what he deserved before,...


- OK, but they are different issues, so maybe in a carma sense, but not in a legitimate judicial sense.


7) ..the irony is, getting away with murder made him feel above the law so he kept pushing his limits,...


- Absolutely, the book he did is all the evidence you need of that, as well there are mountains more evidence.


8) ...and you can see what happened.


Yes, he was denied 6th Amendment basic rights by having a partial jury not composed of a variety of people of his peers, meaning a random selection of races, ages and both genders.

I hope he gets a new trial and this time it be from an impartial jury; if he walsk he walks, if he gets convicted, so be it.

Don't be surprised if he gets a new trial.