Vegas Dave's NFL Picks Week 13 (Every Game w/ Write Up)

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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #1
    Vegas Dave's NFL Picks Week 13 (Every Game w/ Write Up)
    THE RECORD

    Last Week
    With the spread: 10 - 5 - 1 (.667)
    Without the spread: 9 - 7 - 0 (.563)
    ^^Philosophical Picks^^: 1 - 0 - 0 (1.000)

    Season
    With the spread: 92 - 80 - 3 (.535)
    Without the spread: 111 - 64 - 1 (.634)
    ^^Philosophical Picks^^: 13 - 5 - 0 (.722)

    THE PICKS

    * - Indicates Upset Pick
    ^ - Indicates Philosophical Pick

    THURSDAY

    Tennessee (-11.0) @ Detroit (+11.0)
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Tennessee (Win)
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Tennessee (Win)

    Seattle (+12.0) @ Dallas (-12.0)
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *Seattle (Loss)
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Dallas (Win)

    Arizona (+3.0) @ Philadelphia (-3.0)
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: ^Philadelphia (Win)
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: ^Philadelphia (Win)

    SUNDAY

    Carolina (+3.0) @ Green Bay (-3.0)
    There really isn't much more to this game than where it is being played. Green Bay is a totally different team at home; the defense plays better, the offense runs more seamlessly. And yes, you can say this about a lot of teams, but its pretty uncanny for the Packers; 3 - 2 at home with double digit wins over Indy and Chicago, 2 - 4 on the road with the two wins coming against lowly Detroit and Seattle. As for 8 - 3 Carolina, they are 6 - 0 at home and 2 - 3 on the road; and their 2 road wins came on a miracle play on the last play of the game against San Diego and an extremely ugly game against Oakland. Tack on Green Bay being furious about being embarrassed so badly on Monday night, and I think the choice is clear.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Green Bay
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Green Bay

    Indianapolis (-4.5) @ Cleveland (+4.5)
    One of two very scary philosophy picks for me Sunday, but the damn things are hitting over 70% this year, how can I turn my back on them? Indianapolis is surging after a slow start en route to 4 straight wins, and now they face a Cleveland Browns team that has been a mess all year. They can't defend against the pass or get pressure on the QB, which makes them a horrible mismatch against Indianapolis. Brady Quinn's season ending injury only adds insult to, well, injury. All this adds up to about 90% of bettors being on Indianapolis here, and Indianapolis has also been thrown into just about every parlay and teaser and exotic bet out there this week. Bookmakers haven't budged on the line, it should be Cleveland +6.0 by now, but it hasn't moved. They like something about this game. Maybe the team rallies to prove they aren't a one man team? Maybe its the fact that Indy's 4 wins have come by margins of 3, 4, 6, and 3? Whatever it is, I'll take the side I'm "not supposed" to take.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: ^*Cleveland
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: ^*Cleveland

    Baltimore (-7.0) @ Cincinnati (+7.0)
    When these teams meet up they generally play close games, so I really hate giving the home team 7 points here. But Baltimore is just too good on both sides of the ball for me to pick against them here. Cincinnati has played over their head in keeping losses close all year, but I can't figure out how they are going to not only stop Baltimore, but score as well. I'd need more than 7 points to take the Bengals here.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Baltimore
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Baltimore

    San Francisco (+6.5) @ Buffalo (-6.5)
    With a blowout victory over Kansas City, New York's forgotten team has ended their losing streak and somewhat gotten back into the thick of things. The AFC East appears to be a two horse race between the Jets and Patriots, but at 6 - 5 there is no reason for the Bills to roll over and give up on the season just yet. This is a very winnable game for them, and with the confidence boost of last week's road win, I think they tack on another easy win here.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Buffalo
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Buffalo

    Denver (+7.5) @ New York Jets (-7.5)
    If you thought Cleveland was tough to swallow, how hard is it to pick Denver this week? The Jets have won 5 straight, including 3 straight 30+ point efforts and wins on the road against New England and previously-undefeated Tennessee. Their 2nd ranked offense (PPG) goes against the Bronco's 28th ranked defense. The Bronco's 27th ranked rushing defense and 25th ranked passing defense will be ill-equiped to stop the Jets juggernaut offense. The Broncos have lost 4 of their last 6, including last week a home blowout loss to the Raiders. Isn't this a classic case of one team riding too high and the other team riding too low? Looks that way to me. And if you don't want to blindly follow my philosophy pick and want a concrete reason to like Denver, maybe the fact that they have the league's 3rd best passing attack and are going against the Jets' 26th ranked passing defense might make you see a shootout as a realistic possibility? Jets will likely win here, but I say they have their hands full this week.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: ^*Denver
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: New York Jets

    New York Giants (-3.5) @ Washington (+3.5)
    This is just a gut feeling more than anything. The Giants have been near-invincible all season, and Washington hasn't looked sharp in over a month now. No real reason to give them much of a chance. But with Bradshaw and Jacobs both not healthy and the Giants in command at 10 - 1, I could see them letting up a little bit, even if only subconsciously. Washington meanwhile is still very much alive at 7 - 4, thanks to some impressive upsets and a few easy out-of-division games. The Giants have had a brutal stretch of games over their last 5; @PIT, DAL, @PHI, BAL, @ARI, and now a division rival this week? I think the Redskins are less bruised up and are poised to pull off the upset.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *Washington
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: *Washington

    New Orleans (+4.0) @ Tampa Bay (-4.0)
    Hard to pick against Drew Brees, and with Reggie Bush coming back, this incredible offense just got even better. But Tampa Bay's defense is ranked 3rd in points given up this season, and the passing defense is ranked 2nd best in the NFL. I'm a firm believer in taking defense over offense, even if the offense is simply amazing. If Brees can carve these guys up, look out for New Orleans down the stretch.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Tampa Bay
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Tampa Bay

    Miami (-9.0) @ St. Louis (+9.0)
    St. Louis is bad, awful, horrendous, etc. etc., but every dog has its day. The Rams have lost four straight games by 19+ points, and they are bound to string together a halfway decent game sooner or later. Miami has let bad teams stick around this season, and despite their fantastic year, they only have one double digit victory. St. Louis should lose, but I say they lose respectably this week.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *St. Louis
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Miami

    Atlanta (+4.0) @ San Diego (-4.0)
    Every week people keep saying THIS IS THE WEEK that San Diego gets things "back on track", but every week they are wrong. This might just be the week though. The fact that a 4 - 7 team that has shown nothing over the last 5 weeks (1 - 4 with a 1 point win over KC) is a favorite over a 7 - 4 team that has won 3 of their last 4 (Including tough New Orleans and Carolina) tells you which side bookmakers want you on. If San Diego can stop the run as well as they are capable of and pass the ball well, they should be able to win this game and cover the spread. It is about time they do.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: San Diego
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: San Diego

    Kansas City (+3.0) @ Oakland (-3.0)
    Kansas City is ripe for an upset, but I don't think it comes this week. Since waiving DeAngelo Hall, the Raiders defense has been clicking much better, and last week the offense finally woke up. Russell had a great game and McFadden had two TDs. This week McFadden and Fargas get the league's 2nd worst rushing defense, which should allow the Raiders to stay in their comfort zona and run the offense they want to. Tom Cable has done a good job getting the team to keep playing hard, and shockingly enough at 3 - 8 the Raiders are not totally out of the playoff hunt in the AFC West. I'm not saying they are going to make it; but they do have something to play for, and dare I say it, I think they pick up their second straight win this week.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Oakland
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Oakland

    Pittsburgh (+1.0) @ New England (-1.0)
    I've gone back and forth on this game a dozen times, but what it finally comes down to for me is the Pittsburgh defense. They are just so damn stingy. Yes Matt Cassell has come into his own and proven he can play good football at this level, but this is as tough of a defense as New England has faced. I think Roethlisberger can do enough in this game to get Pittsburgh the lead and then go into shutdown mode, which they can do as well as anyone. I'll take my chances on the Steelers "upset".
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *Pittsburgh
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: *Pittsburgh

    Chicago (+3.5) @ Minnesota (-3.5)
    Chicago matches up well against Minnesota. They have a great rushing defense, but they usually end up getting beaten by teams through the air. Minnesota's 26th ranked passing offense really isn't that capable of exploiting that weakness though. Minnesota meanwhile has a difficult time defending against the pass, and with Kyle Orton back, this could be trouble for Minnesota. I think the Bears get the win here.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *Chicago
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: *Chicago

    MONDAY

    Jacksonville (+3.0) @ Houston (-3.0)
    Man, these games look so much better when they are scheduled during the preseason. Jacksonville was supposed to be a playoff threat; instead, they are simply an afterthought at this point. Houston isn't great, but they have an outstanding passing game that should be able to light Jacksonville up; and I just haven't seen any life out of them this year, making them impossible to back. Wouldn't have guessed the Texans would be favored or I'd be taking them way back when, but here we are.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Jacksonville
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Jacksonville

    Good luck this week
  • InTheHole
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-28-08
    • 15243

    #2
    I am on Denver and NewEngland...hope you Jets prediction regarding the ML but not the spread works out...would love to see them pick up the W and me pick up the cash. Good Luck
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    • Tsoprano
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 04-14-08
      • 26374

      #3
      Denvers getting blown out tomorrow.
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      • InTheHole
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-28-08
        • 15243

        #4
        Originally posted by Tsoprano
        Denvers getting blown out tomorrow.
        You have a lot of faith in farberbeans don't you? Pick-6...what makes you think he's changed...Denver can score, they're good on the road and the Jet's are set up perfectly to make errors and keep this one close. Mark my words.
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        • InTheHole
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-28-08
          • 15243

          #5
          You nailed this one head on...they dont even have to play the game.

          "Denver (+7.5) @ New York Jets (-7.5)
          If you thought Cleveland was tough to swallow, how hard is it to pick Denver this week? The Jets have won 5 straight, including 3 straight 30+ point efforts and wins on the road against New England and previously-undefeated Tennessee. Their 2nd ranked offense (PPG) goes against the Bronco's 28th ranked defense. The Bronco's 27th ranked rushing defense and 25th ranked passing defense will be ill-equiped to stop the Jets juggernaut offense. The Broncos have lost 4 of their last 6, including last week a home blowout loss to the Raiders. Isn't this a classic case of one team riding too high and the other team riding too low? Looks that way to me. And if you don't want to blindly follow my philosophy pick and want a concrete reason to like Denver, maybe the fact that they have the league's 3rd best passing attack and are going against the Jets' 26th ranked passing defense might make you see a shootout as a realistic possibility? Jets will likely win here, but I say they have their hands full this week.
          PICK WITH THE SPREAD: ^*Denver
          PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: New York Jets"
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          • reno cool
            SBR MVP
            • 07-02-08
            • 3567

            #6
            I like Denver, and you wont hear me say this often.
            bird bird da bird's da word
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            • MexicanStallion
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-08-08
              • 20429

              #7
              Goodluck this week. I am planning on going with Pitt tomorrow as well. One question though. In your record for games without spread, wouldn't your tie be a loss?
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              • cap
                SBR Hustler
                • 11-15-08
                • 79

                #8
                Giants are on fire they gonna roll over the redskins.
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                • Sforz
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-07-08
                  • 2221

                  #9
                  Go get'em Dave!!!!

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                  • VegasDave
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-03-07
                    • 8056

                    #10
                    7 - 7 so far... good ol' fashion .500. Philosophy Picks 3 - 0 though!

                    Originally posted by MexicanStallion
                    Goodluck this week. I am planning on going with Pitt tomorrow as well. One question though. In your record for games without spread, wouldn't your tie be a loss?
                    Nice win on Pitt

                    In response to your question, I have seen it marked as a loss in some circles. In my opinion, it is a push/tie. If you disagree, feel free to add it into my loss column on your own, I won't stop you .
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                    • MexicanStallion
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-08-08
                      • 20429

                      #11
                      Originally posted by VegasDave
                      7 - 7 so far... good ol' fashion .500. Philosophy Picks 3 - 0 though!



                      Nice win on Pitt

                      In response to your question, I have seen it marked as a loss in some circles. In my opinion, it is a push/tie. If you disagree, feel free to add it into my loss column on your own, I won't stop you .

                      Thanks for the response, just asking. I pick every game without spread and marked mine as loss since I actually didn't call a tie? Just curious about it. Congrats on the philosophy picks I went with your side on those and won today. Can't argue about your record on those
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                      • pat venditto
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-07-07
                        • 14347

                        #12
                        7-8 burried
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                        • VegasDave
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-03-07
                          • 8056

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pat venditto
                          7-8 burried
                          Originally posted by pat venditto
                          Guranteed winners on the ml Rangers/Suns/Ravens/Lakers
                          Ravens -300 (Win 1.00)
                          Lakers -900 (Win 1.00)
                          Suns -450 (Lose 4.50)
                          Rangers -210 (Lose 2.10)

                          I have a bad day at one game under .500 but go 3 - 0 on my best plays, and you feel the need to call me burried?
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                          • reno cool
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-02-08
                            • 3567

                            #14
                            At least we agreed on our Denver winner. And my guess is you'll be 8-8 after tomorrow.
                            bird bird da bird's da word
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                            • UntilTheNDofTimE
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-29-08
                              • 9285

                              #15
                              dont listen to pat that guy is a true idiot
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                              • jackpot269
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-24-07
                                • 12842

                                #16
                                Dave how strong do you feel about Jax tonite?
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                                • VegasDave
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-03-07
                                  • 8056

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jackpot269
                                  Dave how strong do you feel about Jax tonite?
                                  Not that strong, because Jacksonville (a lot like San Diego) is such an anomaly that I can't help but believe they are going to pull a good effort out every now and then. That said, I do think Houston is the right side here.
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                                  • STEELCURTAIN3288
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-26-06
                                    • 1090

                                    #18
                                    Dave,
                                    I feel the same way about Jax!!!! Are you on the over or under I am leaning under myself thanks and good luck to you!!!!
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                                    • VegasDave
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-03-07
                                      • 8056

                                      #19
                                      Can't outplay a team this bad and let them stick around in the NFL, it is a bad recipe...

                                      Hope this is an exception.
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                                      • VegasDave
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-03-07
                                        • 8056

                                        #20
                                        8 - 8, 3 - 0 on my best plays, I guess I can live with that.
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                                        • Victor
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 11-11-08
                                          • 93

                                          #21
                                          thanks for the picks..... I hope they'll work for me.....as for Giants and Titans match I'm picking both of them as they rules the charts
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                                          • Chi_archie
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-22-08
                                            • 63172

                                            #22
                                            Dave,

                                            Suggestion for ya

                                            for next year or the rest of this year...why don't you have a sub-category of games you WOULD bet on if you were betting..... or a top 2-4 plays every week...

                                            would be an interesting experiment

                                            I mean, no one bets all 13-16 NFL games every week... there are alot of tough games that a savy capper would stay the heck away from....

                                            Now I think there is a good chance that over time the winning percentages would be pretty close.... Which would lend credence to the idea that gambling is just a coin flip anyways....

                                            Next NFL season I might start a season long thread where a group of posters agree to post their opinions on every NFL game and then post which games they are actually putting money on....

                                            if you got 10 posters that is 250-ish games for a total of 2,500 picks and another 500-ish "real" picks...would just be a start and small sample size, but I bet that the percentages would be pretty close come season's end..
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                                            • VegasDave
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-03-07
                                              • 8056

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                              Next NFL season I might start a season long thread where a group of posters agree to post their opinions on every NFL game and then post which games they are actually putting money on....
                                              Good luck finding a group of posters that agree to spend hours capping every single game (even the ones with little to no edge) and actually do detailed write-ups supporting their picks on every single one, all while getting paid nothing to do so.

                                              I do it this way because this is something that I think is kind of cool. When people post their best bets for Sunday, many of them post either a) Just the pick, b) The pick and scream ITS A LOCK, c) The pick and tell you you are a moron if you don't take it.

                                              Yes, I could just do write ups on only my philosophy picks, and I'd be hitting 76.5% NFL this year (and those are what I'd be betting, hitting comfortably over 60% on them last 4 years), but instead I think its cool to do every game, no matter how hard it is. Because if I'm a bettor that likes a game and wants a second opinion on it, I can always open this thread and find a second opinion. What your best bets for the week are might be totally different then someone else's, but you can both come here.

                                              I personally think its a good asset to the board. I have seen a few people pick every game ATS, but I haven't seen anyone else pick every game ATS, with write-ups on every one, for free. Have you?
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                                              • gm2022
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-28-08
                                                • 4128

                                                #24
                                                3-0 on best plays is a nice week!
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