Baseball HOF vote at 2PM

No coincidences · 01-09-13, 12:37 PM

I'd like to see Biggio get in just to stick it to the 'roiders.

High3rEl3m3nt · 01-09-13, 01:17 PM

Bonds deserves to get in. Think about it, this whole era was riddled with steroids and there's no telling who "sinned" but managed to escape the media's hitlist. This is a tough class and I'd like, for personal reasons, to see Edgaaaaarrrrrr make the cut. Loved watching this guy hit and I was fortunate to have attended his retirement ceremony at Safeco. Is Mike Piazza really deserving?? Roger Clemens should get in. Good list all-around...or maybe I'm finally getting old enough to know and have watched everyone being nominated. Yikes.

SamDiamond · 01-09-13, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt

Bonds deserves to get in. Think about it, this whole era was riddled with steroids and there's no telling who "sinned" but managed to escape the media's hitlist. This is a tough class and I'd like, for personal reasons, to see Edgaaaaarrrrrr make the cut. Loved watching this guy hit and I was fortunate to have attended his retirement ceremony at Safeco. Is Mike Piazza really deserving?? Roger Clemens should get in. Good list all-around...or maybe I'm finally getting old enough to know and have watched everyone being nominated. Yikes.

No doubt about it. Bonds would have been a LOCK even if he hadn't juiced. And, I'm pretty sure if those guys were upfront and honest about it-----the issue would have blown over for them. But the lying, and the denials is what is going to doom their chances.

I see Bonds gettin in, in say 10 years. Same with Roger. The writers will punish them no doubt.

King Mayan · 01-09-13, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I'd like to see Biggio get in just to stick it to the 'roiders.

Biggio had the "Roided-look"..

99% he took shots to the ass.

greenhippo · 01-09-13, 01:47 PM

The killer B's should make it. Piazza a top 5 catcher all time should make it.

Vegas39 · 01-09-13, 02:01 PM

No one got in

PhillyFlyers · 01-09-13, 02:03 PM

No one eligible this year is worthy.

daneault23 · 01-09-13, 02:03 PM

Lol first time since 1996

SamDiamond · 01-09-13, 02:04 PM

Anyone know what % Bonds got?

Vegas39 · 01-09-13, 02:04 PM

Biggio 39 votes short

daneault23 · 01-09-13, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by SamDiamond

Anyone know what % Bonds got?

Think it said 36.2%

SamDiamond · 01-09-13, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by daneault23

Think it said 36.2%

Wow. That's low.

I thought he would be in the 50's.

Bonds may not get in until he reaches the veteran's committee.

daneault23 · 01-09-13, 02:09 PM

Clemens got 37% so not much more than Bonds did

Vegas39 · 01-09-13, 02:11 PM

ttwarrior1 · 01-09-13, 02:15 PM

bagwell was clearly a juicer even if he never got caught

dale murphy and jack morris belong in

So they didn't voter certain guys in because they didn't have the stats of the steroid era guys, but then don't put in the steroid era guys. Make up your minds voters.

SamDiamond · 01-09-13, 02:16 PM

Thanks for posting that Vegas.

I was hoping for Jack Morris, but I guess that 3.90 ERA is hanging there.

And Dale Murphy. Always liked him.

greenhippo · 01-09-13, 03:08 PM

Biggio makes it next year, Bagwell next year or the next. Good enough for a Houston fan.

ttwarrior1 · 01-09-13, 03:12 PM

anyone with a brain knows bagwell was juicing even if he never got caught

boondoggle · 01-09-13, 03:42 PM

You youngsters never saw Dale Murphy play...amazing that he is not in the hall...the steroid peeps should not be allowed in the hall.

koz-man · 01-09-13, 03:43 PM

Sammy Sosa 12.5%
Palmeiro 8.8%
McGwire 16.9%

these guys bounced in their 1st year of eligibility...(less than 5%)
Loften, S Alomar, Franko, Wells, Finley, Green, plus many more

Edgar Martinez (35.9%) no love for the full time DH

koz-man · 01-09-13, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by boondoggle

You youngsters never saw Dale Murphy play...amazing that he is not in the hall...the steroid peeps should not be allowed in the hall.

I agree. Not the best numbers.
2111 Hits, 398 hr, 1266 rbi, 265. ba, 346. obp, 469 slg, 815 ops

But he was the 'Braves' in the 80's

Dutch · 01-09-13, 06:07 PM

You guys think Frank Thomas gets in?

Pluthero · 01-09-13, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by ttwarrior1

anyone with a brain knows bagwell was juicing even if he never got caught

Anyone with a brain knows your opinion is worthless.

gryfyn1 · 01-09-13, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by koz-man

I agree. Not the best numbers.
2111 Hits, 398 hr, 1266 rbi, 265. ba, 346. obp, 469 slg, 815 ops

But he was the 'Braves' in the 80's

Murphy wouldn't be a terrible inclusion, hi peak from 80-87 was great 284/374/517 140OPS+ 264HR/128SB over 1227 Games and decent defense, his biggest negative was how far he fell and how fast his decline was.

Jack Morris' support baffles, and Lofton, who I would consider borderline HOFer only got 3% is amazing.

Andy117 · 01-09-13, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Pluthero

Anyone with a brain knows your opinion is worthless.

Even so, he's actually right with this one.

Pluthero · 01-09-13, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Andy117

Even so, he's actually right with this one.

I get the suspicion; he had muscles. But unless someone comes forward with evidence or another player accuses him of anything, he's clean in my book. He's never been accused, didn't show up in the Mitchell report, and never failed a drug test (that we know of). Can we at least stick to "innocent until circumstantial evidence assumes guilty"?

Sportswriters that get all holier than thou piss me off. I think two guys actually voted for Morris and no one else. That guy should've been off the ballot 10 years ago. And, yes, I did see game 7 of the '91 series.

InTheDrink · 01-09-13, 10:30 PM

lee smith continues to get jobbed

comparable numbers to three closers in already and pitched in wrigley and the cubs for several years

15805 · 01-10-13, 12:15 AM

Griffey Jr. most feel he didn't juice he should be eligible soon a sure 1st ballot guy, along with Maddox!