Report card time. Grade SBR A+ to F

[SBR_John]

And suggest what you would like to see added or improved.

[InTheHole]

I would pay 50 dollars a month to have my books integrated into SBR Odds where I could shop a line, click that line and place a wager without having to log into the book. One-click wagering. Is it doable?

[gm2022]

Give it an A in my book no problems, good contest, good info on games cant complain!

Maybe send JJ on another 2 day vacation again

[InTheHole]

If you can't do that...more female posters

[onthewhat]

I give SBR a B.

Contests, other than the upcoming team one are stupid. You have to make accounts at 5 books, give them all your information, and then get pounded up the ass with calls. I have recieved over 50 calls from Bookmaker since I signed up for them for the Poker Tournaments back in the summer.

Also, allowing some people to promote websites, while disallowing others, is complete amateurism that would be expected at EOG, not SBR. How JJGold can continually should rebate wager and blackdog, but me getting infractions for having an avatar of CW stiffs for "promoting other websites" is absurd and is a huge double standard.

Also Bet Phoenix being allowed to spam the players talk forum with their contests if you make an account with them, but every other person who does this gets send to promotional forum, is another conflict of interest that many people notice.

If it weren't for the great community of posters here, I wouldn't come here due to the blatant favoritism involed and the laughable terms of the contests. If you are lucky to win the contest, you only have to roll it over 5x!!!

[Tsoprano]

A-

We should be allowed to post stiff pictures from CW.

[zentiense]

A-

I love the spreadsheet option and remember a suggestion awhile ago about doing a spreadsheet tracker or thread displaying who's hot and who's not. A kind of "best of the last 10 plays" or something thereabouts. Or really anything that tracks people's plays and allows some sort of cross analysis/display. I always like to see who the top guys are picking and compare with others or myself -- as everyone, of course, does!

[durito]

Ganch A+
Justin A
Dozer A-
Willie Bee B
BBD F-

[capitalist pig]

Id like to see only books that cant get payouts delivered (regardless of method) in less that 5 business days have the A+ grade. There is no excuse to have a Fed Ex delivery of a cashiers check take 10-14 days.IMO if it takes 10-14 days via Fed Ex, thats at best a C book. After all, it pretty much all comes down to getting paid in a timely fashion.

As far as SBR goes a solid A.

later

[bigboydan]

Also Bet Phoenix being allowed to spam the players talk forum with their contests if you make an account with them, but every other person who does this gets send to promotional forum, is another conflict of interest that many people notice.

I'm flexible on top tier books promoting promos in the PT section, however I have to issue a formal warning type infraction to BetOT. Because they started going into other books thread topics trying to shill their own product. Now that's one thing I will not tolerate !!

[bigboydan]

BBD F-

Still mad at me for being a republican I see.

[onthewhat]

I'm flexible on top tier books promoting promos in the PT section

Bet Phoenix as a top tier book

[Mudcat]

For Sportsbook and Industry discussion - A

Beat The Prick contest - A-

Everything else - D




As for improvement suggestions . . . I dunno . . . I have pretty much given up. I am clearly not SBR's target audience. Well I'll harp on one thing: put picks in the relevant forums, not Player's Talk.

Actually here's something: when you have someone on IGNORE, make it so you can't see the titles of the threads they start or when their posts are quoted. Have a true IGNORE.

[SBR_John]

I would pay 50 dollars a month to have my books integrated into SBR Odds where I could shop a line, click that line and place a wager without having to log into the book. One-click wagering. Is it doable?

Yes it is. Will Gatten came up with the idea and laid out the plan. For a while we had a https secure server and a login box where you could login. It was a bit complicated because books use security measures to keep hackers out and we were caught in that net too often.

In the future we want a system that with one login you would have like a Quicken interface to manage funds and a one login where you could wager right off of SBR Odds.

[Scorpion]

A+

Top forum

[durito]

Id like to see only books that cant get payouts delivered (regardless of method) in less that 5 business days have the A+ grade. There is no excuse to have a Fed Ex delivery of a cashiers check take 10-14 days.IMO if it takes 10-14 days via Fed Ex, thats at best a C book. After all, it pretty much all comes down to getting paid in a timely fashion.

As far as SBR goes a solid A.

later

That would only leave Greek/BetJM for books that allow US customers.

[durito]

Still mad at me for being a republican I see.

It's the method not the result.

[SBR_John]

Ganch A+
Justin A
Dozer A-
Willie Bee B
BBD F-

even gets the minus sign after his F??? Haha good one!

[capitalist pig]

That would only leave Greek/BetJM for books that allow US customers.

Exactly, if they can do it why cant the others.

later

[ertl09]

SBR = A

Contest are great. Yes you have to roll them over 5X but big deal, its free money. I've seen other forums and wouldn't want any other place to post except here.

[durito]

Exactly, if they can do it why cant the others.

later

It's all about banking relationships and finding processors that fly under the radar. They obviously have the in Jamaica.

I seriously doubt if it was that easy to accomplish that places like WSEX wouldn't have done it already.

All of these A+ still payout to customers outside the USA in a matter of hours usually.

[bbyhill]

A - top forum.Would like to see some horse racing contest.have a way to keep track of our wagers.

[Dark Horse]

Sportsbook info and help with solving problems: the best by far.

SBR Odds: excellent.

Contests. Why so many? Throw all that money in one big pile, and let's play for some 25 or 50K prizes.

Forum: Pretty much a lost cause, quality wise. I would like the freedom to put moderators on ignore (if you're going to have non-industry types like Crazyl in there).

MySBR. Too messy to use.

[accuscoresucks]

willie bee/f
the prick/a
crazyl/c

[gm2022]

Sportsbook info and help with solving problems: the best by far.

SBR Odds: excellent.

Contests. Why so many? Throw all that money in one big pile, and let's play for some 25 or 50K prizes.

Forum: Pretty much a lost cause, quality wise. I would like the freedom to put moderators on ignore (if you're going to have non-industry types like Crazyl in there).

MySBR. Too messy to use.

25k prizes people would be out to kill others lol!

[Matt Rain]

BBD F-

Agree with this. Someone should tell Dan that there's simpler ways to generate page views than to troll everyone and every subject imaginable.

[InTheHole]

Yes it is. Will Gatten came up with the idea and laid out the plan. For a while we had a https secure server and a login box where you could login. It was a bit complicated because books use security measures to keep hackers out and we were caught in that net too often.

In the future we want a system that with one login you would have like a Quicken interface to manage funds and a one login where you could wager right off of SBRLines.

Without a doubt a billable service. I think you could generate a heavy profit from the books as well (they would have to pay a fee to be included in the line-up)...I'm not sure SBR has a mission statement but obviously one goal would be to promote player well-being hence a book would have to exemplify such a mission in the way they do business with their customers (i.e. B+ or better)

[Dark Horse]

BBD and Willie are cool. They have proven their worth for years. I couldn't care less about BBD's strange political views, because he's right on top of things with book info.


MIA: Ganch. Hardly been around since Vegas...

[SBR_John]

zentiense & bbyhill - a new wagertacker website is in full development.

bbyhill - Yes I agree on the horse racing. We will get on that and have something very good by racing season.

Dark - Yep agree the contests need some reorganization. That is in the works to greatly improve the ease of use and interface and make them simplier. We can't make one big contest unless we can find a book willing to plop down a slug. Its a lot easier to sell more small ones but I hear ya. The best year was when we gave away a new Harley.

Dark I like the idea of putting anyone including a mod on ignore. I didnt know you couldnt. Its a players forum and if a player doesnt want to see posts from a mod he shouldnt have to.

[mtneer1212]

I give SBR an A-.... some of the contests need to be better defined rules-wise, and sometimes I get sick of the 500 CW threads a day, which is a result of the people who frequent SBR, not SBR themselves.

One improvement suggestion -- move DacVietBet's picks to the front page handicapping page so that we can all fade them..... I do not believe he is a bad handicapper, I just think he is a mush.

[jjgold]

I give it an A-

I think it will be a full A in like 4-6 more months

SBR has already knocked out most forums and line services

[purecarnagge]

The double standards are amazing... They need to stop..I understand different moderators have different views on things but the double standards are just that and that's not fair.

That and books need to be accountable for there actions. Bookmaker the calling... even after you ask them to stop... other books that do other shady things.

For the most part SBR ratings is great, and generally pretty spot on. A and B books are pretty safe and C and below, well why are you playing there anyways... But some of the A's aren't A's for service etc...

[daggerkobe]

SBR_Lines A
SBR_Contests A
BBD A
CrazyL A
Dozer A
SBR_reviews A
SBR_forum A..... falls short of A+ due to racists hijacking every thread and turning it into a race war.