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  • wantitall4moi
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    #106
    Originally posted by k13
    Pats were +3, +2.5 to Baltimore earlier this year.

    Why would books care if people buy points? That's for suckers anyway.
    A road game in the middle of the season where Balt was fighting for their lives in the play off hunt isnt the play offs.

    The ONLY reason Den would be a small dog is because books know Peyton manning is a bigger money sponge than brady.

    Big difference is Patriots WIN those games. Patriots as a dog are automatic money ATS. Not so great SU, just 500 but ATS they have only 1 loss.

    Books might try and pull a fast one and just make Pats +1 with big vig, throw out a 'safe' ML 2 days before the game and let it get slapped around a little bit, and hope, but I dont see it. That would be a big gamble on their part. A lot of people will bet Manning, but the BIG money will bet the Patriots in any dog capacity in the Play offs. Books have to factor that in.



    Denver has beaten one good team this year, and has been the benefactor of as easy a schedule as youll see next to whatever schedule Alabama has in the NCAA. We dont know really how good they are yet, they certainly havent proven anything to deserve the odds they have. While Pats arent exactly world beaters they have stepped up in a few big games and even had that SF laugher start to get close. THATS why patriots have to be respected. In a basically meaningless game where they were losing by 100 they scored so many points late people were actually thinking they could win it. Pats could have just mailed that game in, but they didnt. if they do that on a meaningless game against an NFC opponent what are they going to do in an AFC championship type game?
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    • PAULYPOKER
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      #107
      Originally posted by DaColts
      the year the colts won the super bowl the colts were the no. 1 D in the playoffs
      Well there you have it,

      No QB is Superman,

      You need Defense to win Championships....
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      • PAULYPOKER
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        #108
        Originally posted by frostno98
        The Public will go heavy on the Patriots moneyline, if they were to meet in Denver.

        The Public will blindly bet Brady for these reasons.

        Brady owns Manning in the Playoffs, but all those games except one were played in New England.

        Brady beat Manning 31-21 earlier this year at home.

        Brady destroyed Tebow 41-23 in Mile High, deceiving the public that Brady can win anywhere.
        Very sharp post for being a Broncos fan
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        • k13
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          #109
          Manning must be shaking in his boots at the thought of Brady coming to Denver and shitting on his face again.
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          • sarasmith
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            #110
            Originally posted by wantitall4moi
            A road game in the middle of the season where Balt was fighting for their lives in the play off hunt isnt the play offs.
            The pats played the ravens in week3! Please think about what you are saying before you type it.
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            • JustMike
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              #111
              Broncos. What do you think the line will be?
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              • PAULYPOKER
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                #112
                Originally posted by JustMike
                Broncos. What do you think the line will be?
                Pats@Broncos

                Broncos -2.5 -120 -3 +100
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                • sarasmith
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                  #113
                  For once I agree with Pauly
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                  • LeagueCapper
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                    #114
                    Brady is something like 10-4 all time against Manning. Your gonna give the Pats +money at Denver and not suspect the Pats to be pounded? I don't care that Manning is on the other side of the ball, your dreaming if you think the books will give the Pats +3.
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                    • PAULYPOKER
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                      #115
                      Originally posted by LeagueCapper
                      Brady is something like 10-4 all time against Manning. Your gonna give the Pats +money at Denver and not suspect the Pats to be pounded? I don't care that Manning is on the other side of the ball, your dreaming if you think the books will give the Pats +3.
                      Vegas will want the Pats to be pounded, Grasshopper............................. .
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                      • joeytunes
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                        • 12-29-10
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                        #116
                        Den -1 true line..
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                        • Big Bear
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                          #117
                          Originally posted by k13
                          You can get Denver to NOT win AFC (-175) right now. Which is a joke line btw.

                          Which means you get Pats AND Houston or Baltimore.
                          Where at ? That sounds good
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                          • k13
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                            #118
                            Originally posted by Big Bear
                            Where at ? That sounds good
                            5dimes
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                            • GP
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                              #119
                              It depends when they meet.

                              If NE travels to DEN for the Divisional Round, then the line will be DEN -3.
                              If NE travels to DEN for the Conference Championship, then the line drifts down to DEN -1 1/2.
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                              • frostno98
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                                #120
                                Jake Plummer was favored by -3.5 and -3 twice against Tom Brady in Denver in the 2005/2006 season. And Yes, Brady lost both time to Jake Plummer.
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                                • nvrlose37
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                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by frostno98
                                  Jake Plummer was favored by -3.5 and -3 twice against Tom Brady in Denver in the 2005/2006 season. And Yes, Brady lost both time to Jake Plummer.
                                  Brady I believe still has a losing record vs the Broncos, the only NFL team with that distinction. May have changed after the three straight losses though
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                                  • dodger33
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                                    #122
                                    Broncos -3
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                                    • Slimpickens
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                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by GP
                                      It depends when they meet.

                                      If NE travels to DEN for the Divisional Round, then the line will be DEN -3.
                                      If NE travels to DEN for the Conference Championship, then the line drifts down to DEN -1 1/2.
                                      Explain why. I dont get it.
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                                      • ThaTopMoron
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                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by k13
                                        Manning must be shaking in his boots at the thought of Brady coming to Denver and shitting on his face again.
                                        if the Broncos beat the Niners in the SB this guy might
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                                        • JMon
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                                          #125
                                          With everyone saying Denver's cupcake schedule, I did a quick opponents' record comparison vs. NE. Denver has had a slight easier schedule. Didn't have time to do every team, so don't know where the fall with other teams...

                                          Opponents' 2012 record and teams record vs. 2012 playoff teams

                                          Denver

                                          108-117 (.480) - oppt record
                                          *2-3 vs. 2012 playoff teams

                                          NE

                                          112-111-2 (.502) - oppt record
                                          *3-3 vs. 2012 playoff teams
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                                          • LT Profits
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                                            #126
                                            As of right now, Denver -2.5
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                                            • Slimpickens
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                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by JMon
                                              With everyone saying Denver's cupcake schedule, I did a quick opponents' record comparison vs. NE. Denver has had a slight easier schedule. Didn't have time to do every team, so don't know where the fall with other teams...

                                              Opponents' 2012 record and teams record vs. 2012 playoff teams

                                              Denver

                                              108-117 (.480) - oppt record
                                              *2-3 vs. 2012 playoff teams

                                              NE

                                              112-111-2 (.502) - oppt record
                                              *3-3 vs. 2012 playoff teams
                                              I know Ive been saying this for the past 2 months. Wasnt many easier schedules this year than the Patriot, if any.
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                                              • LT Profits
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                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by JMon
                                                With everyone saying Denver's cupcake schedule, I did a quick opponents' record comparison vs. NE. Denver has had a slight easier schedule. Didn't have time to do every team, so don't know where the fall with other teams...

                                                Opponents' 2012 record and teams record vs. 2012 playoff teams

                                                Denver

                                                108-117 (.480) - oppt record
                                                *2-3 vs. 2012 playoff teams

                                                NE

                                                112-111-2 (.502) - oppt record
                                                *3-3 vs. 2012 playoff teams
                                                SOS per Sagarin. Colts, Bengals, Houston and Atlanta had it easy too

                                                Arizona Cardinals =22.76( 1)
                                                San Francisco 49ers =22.48( 2)
                                                St. Louis Rams =22.38( 3)
                                                Detroit Lions =21.89( 4)
                                                Seattle Seahawks =21.76( 5)
                                                New York Giants =21.61( 6)
                                                New Orleans Saints =21.18( 7)
                                                Minnesota Vikings =21.16( 8)
                                                Dallas Cowboys =21.13( 9)
                                                Chicago Bears =21.07( 10)
                                                Green Bay Packers =20.94( 11)
                                                Carolina Panthers =20.87( 12)
                                                Philadelphia Eagles =20.65( 13)
                                                Washington Redskins =20.52( 14)
                                                Tennessee Titans =20.18( 15)
                                                New York Jets =20.17( 16)
                                                Tampa Bay Buccaneers =19.88( 17)
                                                Jacksonville Jaguars =19.84( 18)
                                                Buffalo Bills =19.71( 19)
                                                Baltimore Ravens =19.16( 20)
                                                Denver Broncos =19.11( 21)
                                                New England Patriots =19.07( 22)
                                                Oakland Raiders =18.91( 23)
                                                Atlanta Falcons =18.82( 24)
                                                Kansas City Chiefs =18.75( 25)
                                                Cleveland Browns =18.74( 26)
                                                San Diego Chargers =18.59( 27)
                                                Pittsburgh Steelers =18.47( 28)
                                                Houston Texans =18.39( 29)
                                                Miami Dolphins =18.37( 30)
                                                Cincinnati Bengals =17.49( 31)
                                                Indianapolis Colts =17.14( 32)
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                                                • PAULYPOKER
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                                                  #129
                                                  Pittsburgh Steelers = 5th easiest scedule in league and still not make playoffs,GTFO!

                                                  If Haley is still Off. Cor. next season Steelers won't
                                                  make playoffs again...........


                                                  Get rid of this 1960's offensive style freak already!
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                                                  • JMon
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                                                    #130
                                                    Ty LT
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                                                    • dynamite140
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                                                      #131
                                                      Denver -1.5
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                                                      • Goat Milk
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                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                        Vegas will want the Pats to be pounded, Grasshopper............................. .
                                                        No they don't.Books don't gamble on games like that. They adjust lines to get even money on both side and collect the juice and they win regardless of the result.

                                                        you know nothing about the gambling industry. books gamble 1% of the time.
                                                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                        • Goat Milk
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                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by nvrlose37
                                                          Is reggie wayne a HOF receiver either? And Denver has a rush game, Colts never did.
                                                          reggie wayne is most definitely a hof receiver. not even a question.

                                                          let's think who manning had on defense, most guys in their primes.

                                                          freeny, mathis, bathea, marlin jackson, bob sanders, raheem brock, bracket, nick harper, kelvin hayden,

                                                          that's a good defense. not to mention the guy had a number of great rbs, 2 hall of fame receivers, a great tight end, and one of the best o lines in thte league and one of the best coaches in the league too.

                                                          Denver has good defensive pieces but they are weak in the secondary and look at their offense. It's not even good. Who do they even have? No bodies.

                                                          Pats D is better than it's been in 5 years. Offense better than it's been since the 18-1 Pats team. Brady gets up to play when he's playing against Manning. So those stats you cited Frost don't mean shit.

                                                          Zookyouk, Tebow won 1 playoff game I thought, then got dick smacked by the Patriots in the next game.
                                                          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                          • Goat Milk
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                                                            #134
                                                            My projected line is Denver -1 if they play in Denver.
                                                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                            • GamblerSpirit
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                                                              #135
                                                              K13 is right about something. The nfc west this year is impressive.
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