27 Dead in elementry school shooting this morning

[opie1988]

instead of calling this guy a monster and wishing him eternal life in hell why dont you try to figure out why he did it


he was an outsider, ostracized by society which is what drove him insane

many studies refer to the devastating psychological and physical effects that occur from being socially isolated, not to mention that people that are socially isolated usually experience some form of bullying at school or the workplace which takes a big toll on you psychologically

read up on all the shootings, its always the same guy 'smart but solitary'

it was not entirely this guys fault, its society's, its the crappy world we live in


I really hope that all the parents that lost kids were NRA members

You are one sorry motherfukker to say something like that. My only wish is that you weren't such a sorry scumbag pussy and would reveal your location. I'd love to go to wherever you are and kick your fukkin teeth in, you scumbag motherfukker.

These poor people just had their entire worlds ripped apart at the hands of some cokksukkin coward. And you have the gall to insult them?

I could give a fukk if that cowardly little fukk that killed all those innocent babies was picked on when he was a kid. What the fukk does that have to do with murdering 20 little kids who have their whole lives ahead of them?

Anyone who would possibly defend ANYTHING done by that piece of shit is one sorry excuse of a human being.

Fukk you.

[Smoke]

[PAULYPOKER]

instead of calling this guy a monster and wishing him eternal life in hell why dont you try to figure out why he did it


he was an outsider, ostracized by society which is what drove him insane

many studies refer to the devastating psychological and physical effects that occur from being socially isolated, not to mention that people that are socially isolated usually experience some form of bullying at school or the workplace which takes a big toll on you psychologically

read up on all the shootings, its always the same guy 'smart but solitary'

it was not entirely this guys fault, its society's, its the crappy world we live in


I really hope that all the parents that lost kids were NRA members

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[seaborneq]

Why is there no mention of the actual teacher who was murdered in the classroom? Since it obviously was not the shooters mother. Why the delay in the teacher in the room?

[itchypickle]

instead of calling this guy a monster and wishing him eternal life in hell why dont you try to figure out why he did it


he was an outsider, ostracized by society which is what drove him insane

many studies refer to the devastating psychological and physical effects that occur from being socially isolated, not to mention that people that are socially isolated usually experience some form of bullying at school or the workplace which takes a big toll on you psychologically

read up on all the shootings, its always the same guy 'smart but solitary'

it was not entirely this guys fault, its society's, its the crappy world we live in


I really hope that all the parents that lost kids were NRA members

Being an outsider is NO excuse, penetrating Mark Cuban was a nerd and was bullied growing up - look at his path. Thats just one example but its one of millions....being bullied or having some sort of adversity growing up is what makes you a better person as you get older.

This evil act lands squarely on the assshole who did it's shoulder....period.

[mynameismud]

I don't even understand how someone thought this would be a good idea. This is so beyond messed I want to call you a liar even though I don't think you are. So if you're an adult who dies overseas in Iraq, even if you just hang yourself for example, you get the dignified response of someone from your family member's employer showing up at your house to inform you of the news in person, accompanied by psych help. If you're a parent whose child attends a K-4 school where a mass murder just took place you have to go play matchie and if you're the odd man out you lose??? That's fukking twisted as fukk.

Humans have figured so much shit out. And magically all of the powerhouse first world countries band together when one is in crisis or has been attacked. It's beautiful how much brotherhood we all show then. But realistically humans are our own worst enemies. And we attack each other from within. Terrorists and whomever else could throw so many horrors at us but we'll still suss out a way to bring each other down somehow from inside. Even those sick 9/11 fukks didn't go to a school and target kids. This guy had already killed his mother... so let's go slaughter her class???? Maybe we should think about that the next time we want to throw out a racial slur.

wish i was lying about the facts. several witnesses recalled the horror which was the way they found out their kids werent coming home. the story gave me serious chills when i first heard it.

[Chi_archie]

instead of calling this guy a monster and wishing him eternal life in hell why dont you try to figure out why he did it


he was an outsider, ostracized by society which is what drove him insane

many studies refer to the devastating psychological and physical effects that occur from being socially isolated, not to mention that people that are socially isolated usually experience some form of bullying at school or the workplace which takes a big toll on you psychologically

read up on all the shootings, its always the same guy 'smart but solitary'

it was not entirely this guys fault, its society's, its the crappy world we live in

there is some discussion to be had on the beginning of your post......

-people do need to vent their anger first of course, we all deal with shocking tragic news differently.

the last part of your post, is not worthy of response. although i'm sure you'll get many threats to come meet you and split your dome

the last part of your post that I quoted...

"it was not entirely this guys fault....."

99.99999999% that crazy kid's fault .000000000001 society's fault

[mynameismud]

there is some discussion to be had on the beginning of your post......

-people do need to vent their anger first of course, we all deal with shocking tragic news differently.

the last part of your post, is not worthy of response. although i'm sure you'll get many threats to come meet you and split your dome

the last part of your post that I quoted...

"it was not entirely this guys fault....."

99.99999999% that crazy kid's fault .000000000001 society's fault

thats being generous.

[opie1988]

thats being generous.

No, its being stupid.

This wasn't some 12 year old that was abandoned by his parents. He was 20 years old. Basically a grown man.

Plenty old enough to know what he was doing. Placing any of the blame on society is simply a cop out.

[No coincidences]

Wonder what kind of video games and movies they'll find in this kid's room.

You mix mental illness with the shit these kids are exposed to and desensitized from these days and it can become a lethal concoction.

[mynameismud]

No, its being stupid.

This wasn't some 12 year old that was abandoned by his parents. He was 20 years old. Basically a grown man.

Plenty old enough to know what he was doing. Placing any of the blame on society is simply a cop out.

it was a facetious statement. meaning poster way too generous letting the killer off with .000000000001%

[King Mayan]

The say Adam was autistic.

[opie1988]

it was a facetious statement. meaning poster way too generous letting the killer off with .000000000001%

I know. I wasn't referring to you.

I was referring to anyone that would assign blame anywhere but exactly on the killer.

[TxAaron]

PaulyPoker and SportsMushroom, you are two dumb fuckk pieces of shit. Even to insinuate that a child murdering psycho has any sort of excuse for committing such a crime is fukking sickening.

You fukkin libtard hippies need to get real, I wouldn't donate a penny to send this sick fukk to a mental institution, but I would spend my hard earned .223 bullets lining them up and cutting them in half with my AR15.

[itchypickle]

No, its being stupid.

This wasn't some 12 year old that was abandoned by his parents. He was 20 years old. Basically a grown man.

Plenty old enough to know what he was doing. Placing any of the blame on society is simply a cop out.

Don't you find it ironic that the same people who wager $$ every week on people 20 years old and younger to make choices in stress in front of thousands of people and expect results, suddenly say "oh he's only 20, a child, didn't know its not proper to blow the head off of a 6 year old, its not his fault nobody took the time to tell him that"

[Chi_archie]

and cultural & racial identification by the 'public'

yes that is a very big part of it too, in the end it must come down to a bit of selfishness and anger at being sucked into a story that we feel could have happened to us. But we can be disconnected from some shit in India, Syria, or Africa.

[darkhat]

Obv the killer is to blame

And if he didn't have a gun would of used any means necessary,

[SportsMushroom]

What does the NRA have to do with this right now?

The kid lost it flipped out but you blame the NRA? Mind boggling

you are kidding right?

if it wasnt for the nra lobbyists guns would have been outlawed a long time ago


and dont give me that crap that the NRA feeds its flock of sheep about only criminals having guns


most shootings of this type are carried out by law abiding citizens who in a moment of insanity happened to have a gun lying around because the law permited them to

most of these people would not have a gun if it was illegal for them to do so


from my experience, in most countries were guns are illegal there are very few shootings, and most of those shootings are usually a mob/gang member shooting another mob/gang member. in other words those few shootings do not involve innocent civillians


go ahead, now counter my statements with your own*

*statements coming straight out of the why guns are cool handbook the NRA gives to its flock BAAAAAHH

[SportsMushroom]

are u serious?

get a grip pal

WOW

I cannot counter those arguments

nor can I match your wit and rhetoric

[Emily_Haines]

I know. I wasn't referring to you.

I was referring to anyone that would assign blame anywhere but exactly on the killer.

I blame the GOP

We would have had gun control already with out those losers

and the kids would be alive today.

[onacloud]

you are kidding right?

if it wasnt for the nra lobbyists guns would have been outlawed a long time ago


and dont give me that crap that the NRA feeds its flock of sheep about only criminals having guns


most shootings of this type are carried out by law abiding citizens who in a moment of insanity happened to have a gun lying around because the law permited them to

most of these people would not have a gun if it was illegal for them to do so


from my experience, in most countries were guns are illegal there are very few shootings, and most of those shootings are usually a mob/gang member shooting another mob/gang member. in other words those few shootings do not involve innocent civillians


go ahead, now counter my statements with your own*

*statements coming straight out of the why guns are cool handbook the NRA gives to its flock BAAAAAHH

Do more deaths occur from these shootings?

Or are more deaths from shootings having to do with gangs/drugs?

[PittsburghPlayer]

If any one here has a child and spends more than 2 minutes a day at this site while having the opportunity to spend time with them and you don`t, ...
You might have your priorities mixed up.
And if/when they grow up to have difficulties in life it will no doubt be the democrats fault or the republicans fault or anyones fault but your own.
We Americans are pussies, everything always someone else`s fault.

[hels]

It is sounding like we are on the nature vs. nurture argument right now.

No matter what you believe, you have to know that the shooter is 100% responsible for his own actions. If he walked into a mental health clinic and said, "I am thinking of killing my mother and shooting up a school." and the mental health clinic asked "Do you have money to pay for help?" and when he said he didn't they turned him away THEN we could begin to place blame elsewhere.

This individual was sick in the head and events/experiences/people in his life concocted something 99.99999% of us will never understand. Us SBR members discussing the events cannot lay blame on ourselves. What we can do is look to the future and try our best to never let massacres like this happen again.

[Boner_18]

you are kidding right?

if it wasnt for the nra lobbyists guns would have been outlawed a long time ago

Yes. Constitutional amendments are handed out like candy on Halloween.

The right to keep and bear arms is part of the fabric of this country as much as the right to free speach, religion, the bicameral congressional system etc. And anyone who says it is outmoded is crazy. The framers of the Constitution envisioned a country where no man need lay down to be trampled by his government and guns, even just the illusion of guns, the right to possess them are integral to protecting the freedom we hold so dear.

Tradegies like this one are indeed sobering and they make everyone take stock of what they hold dear. But as a real American, as a Constitutional Federalist I simply refuse to accept that taking away my 2nd amendment freedoms is worth these lives (if they even would be saved).

[SportsMushroom]

You are one sorry motherfukker to say something like that. My only wish is that you weren't such a sorry scumbag pussy and would reveal your location. I'd love to go to wherever you are and kick your fukkin teeth in, you scumbag motherfukker.

These poor people just had their entire worlds ripped apart at the hands of some cokksukkin coward. And you have the gall to insult them?

I could give a fukk if that cowardly little fukk that killed all those innocent babies was picked on when he was a kid. What the fukk does that have to do with murdering 20 little kids who have their whole lives ahead of them?

Anyone who would possibly defend ANYTHING done by that piece of shit is one sorry excuse of a human being.

Fukk you.

so what? if you kick my ass does that make you right? it just make you a caveman that cannot accept my point of view


and in case I did not make my point of view clear, I'll state it more clearly: people that defend gun laws are the lowest form of human being and they should be put down, and then the human race would me morally, ethically and intelectualy better off

[WvGambler]

so what? if you kick my ass does that make you right? it just make you a caveman that cannot accept my point of view


and in case I did not make my point of view clear, I'll state it more clearly: people that defend gun laws are the lowest form of human being and they should be put down, and then the human race would me morally, ethically and intelectualy better off

If you're going to reprimand someone due to intellect, at the very least, please spell your words correctly.

[EaglesPhan36]

Another classy move. This one from English Soccer players ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-clubs-pay-tribute-162000151--sow.html

[PAULYPOKER]

PaulyPoker and SportsMushroom, you are two dumb fuckk pieces of shit. Even to insinuate that a child murdering psycho has any sort of excuse for committing such a crime is fukking sickening.

You fukkin libtard hippies need to get real, I wouldn't donate a penny to send this sick fukk to a mental institution, but I would spend my hard earned .223 bullets lining them up and cutting them in half with my AR15.

The problem you'll have executing that plan is the next Adam Lanza will have already committed the tragic act and most likely be deceased as well by the time you or anyone for that matter realizes he was capable of something of this magnitude for the simple fact society ignores/pushes away the mentally ill instead of helping or hospitalizing them.................

Instead the mentally ill get thrown in jail on taxpayers money only to be released a short time later in far worse mental shape than they actually were before entering the SYSTEM..................

[SportsMushroom]

Yes. Constitutional amendments are handed out like candy on Halloween.

The right to keep and bear arms is part of the fabric of this country as much as the right to free speach, religion, the bicameral congressional system etc. And anyone who says it is outmoded is crazy. The framers of the Constitution envisioned a country where no man need lay down to be trampled by his government and guns, even just the illusion of guns, the right to possess them are integral to protecting the freedom we hold so dear.

Tradegies like this one are indeed sobering and they make everyone take stock of what they hold dear. But as a real American, as a Constitutional Federalist I simply refuse to accept that taking away my 2nd amendment freedoms is worth these lives (if they even would be saved).

bullshit. why do you need a gun? the right to bear arms was put in place when america was like the wild west. Nowadays the US has a police force and army, they dont need you sir, even if the US was invaded you are gonna be cowaring in your basement waiting it out

and how can you imply that this tragedy could not have been prevented and not feel ashamed? what are the two most used excuses but gun nutjobs?

1. if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns

this kid was not an outlaw, he was a law abiding citizen and he would not have a gun to do what he did if it was illegal

2. people can protect themselves from a shooter if they have a gun

who was going to have a gun at a school, are you kidding me? even if you were there and you had a gun, by the time you realize what had happened everything would have been over with and you'd either be dead, hiding behind the water cooler or trying to unbutton your holster

[Trident]

Tradegies like this one are indeed sobering and they make everyone take stock of what they hold dear. But as a real American, as a Constitutional Federalist I simply refuse to accept that taking away my 2nd amendment freedoms is worth these lives (if they even would be saved).

It's really a shame that you weren't the first one taken out by this nut job.

[SportsMushroom]

If you're going to reprimand someone due to intellect, at the very least, please spell your words correctly.

ah the ol' 'I dont have any good points to make so I will insult your grammar' comeback, nicely done sir


oh and here's my response, how well can you spell in your 3rd language while typing at 60 words a minute? you jackass

[rfr3sh]

Pauly is right..mushroom has a point
opie is an idiot

[WvGambler]

ah the ol' 'I dont have any good points to make so I will insult your grammar' comeback, nicely done sire


oh and here's my response, how well can you spell in your 3rd language while typing at 60 words a minute you jackass

First I was complaining about your spelling. Now your punctuation also comes into question. Sire?

[PittsburghPlayer]

This thread is awesome. More hate and anger on top of yesterdays killings. Sad that in this nation we do not have the right or freedom to just ignore those we disagree with.
I am not suggesting to never disagree with someone, but eventually we all at one time or another need to be the bigger man and shut the fukk up.

[rfr3sh]

PaulyPoker and SportsMushroom, you are two dumb fuckk pieces of shit. Even to insinuate that a child murdering psycho has any sort of excuse for committing such a crime is fukking sickening.

You fukkin libtard hippies need to get real, I wouldn't donate a penny to send this sick fukk to a mental institution, but I would spend my hard earned .223 bullets lining them up and cutting them in half with my AR15.

why any person living in a civilized country would need a gun like that is beyond me