Not the first time this has happened. Many of us have been on the wrong side of this type of thing a few times. And for significant money. I learned a while ago to never, ever count money posted up at a book as my money until its in my pocket.
Betislands handled this horribly and even if everyone got paid tomorrow, their word cant be trusted.
But I do have one question. Is Dudley Dawson officially done at SBR? He shilled so hard for these shit bags, has he even responded? I've been at work all say and am not reading the last 450 posts to find out.
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CollegePro
SBR MVP
02-23-09
4006
#1403
Ok..so Jon is that with BI anymore!! so why the penetrate was Ryan keep telling everyone that he is waiting to hear back from Jon?? WTF???
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wtt0315
SBR Hall of Famer
01-18-07
8037
#1404
Heres the thing they knew this all along. They didnt just find out he wasnt there. He hasnt been there in 3 weeks. Sbr should of know then something was not right
Originally posted by Bill Dozer
BetIslands was supposed to give us an update on their payouts Thursday and then asked for Monday. They haven't updated players or SBR. SBRforum took the banner above down. SportsbookReview has moved them from B to C. For those looking for Jon, he is no longer with BI. We are hoping mgt realizes that when there is an issue, they can't wait it out and hope for the best. We also hope they jump back in gear tomorrow and have a plan to update their users with.
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CollegePro
SBR MVP
02-23-09
4006
#1405
Originally posted by The Kraken
Not the first time this has happened. Many of us have been on the wrong side of this type of thing a few times. And for significant money. I learned a while ago to never, ever count money posted up at a book as my money until its in my pocket.
Betislands handled this horribly and even if everyone got paid tomorrow, their word cant be trusted.
But I do have one question. Is Dudley Dawson officially dine? He shilled so hard for these shit bags. Has he even responded? I've been at work all say and am not reading the last 450 posts to find out.
last time he post wa at around 5ish pm est... nothing since..
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SamDiamond
SBR Hall of Famer
10-19-12
6107
#1406
Here's your explanation boys:
Originally posted by Bill Dozer
BetIslands was supposed to give us an update on their payouts Thursday and then asked for Monday. They haven't updated players or SBR. SBRforum took the banner above down. SportsbookReview has moved them from B to C. For those looking for Jon, he is no longer with BI. We are hoping mgt realizes that when there is an issue, they can't wait it out and hope for the best. We also hopful they jump back in gear tomorrow and have a plan to update their users.
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Frogger
SBR Sharp
04-17-10
382
#1407
Originally posted by boeing power
Rating Change: BetIslands12.17.2012 (10:34 PM CST)
BetIslands Sportsbook downgraded from B to C
Unreal.... I posted on post #1367 that they should lower from B to C and they already had done that 4 minutes ago. Guess I should have checked but wow.
You all like to bash SBR and this and that, but there is no other forum that compares to SBR and until there is SBR has my respect. No need for an SBR post when they made the downgrade statement. That says it all.
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allabout the $$$
SBR Hall of Famer
04-17-10
9843
#1408
Originally posted by wtt0315
Heres the thing they knew this all along. They didnt just find out he wasnt there. He hasnt been there in 3 weeks. Sbr should of know then something was not right
i could swear he was posting here within the last 2 weeks
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cloverfield
SBR Wise Guy
12-24-10
862
#1409
Originally posted by RealSlimShady
Too bad it happened to you, Tracer.
You're a street smart guy who knew trouble was brewing right away and got bashed for posting it.....
Looks like I owe an apology to RealSlim
Earlier in this thread I said it was over-reacting(which it usually is) and while this is yet to finally play out...the writing is on the wall.
I reserve the right to smack RealSlim if this is overblown though...
My apologies RealSlim
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wtt0315
SBR Hall of Famer
01-18-07
8037
#1410
yes, but they knew what was going on last week when the problems started and they did nothing. I am pretty sure a lot of people deposited last week and that could of been stopped. They should of been proactive and no reactive to everyones comments to downgrade.
Originally posted by Frogger
Unreal.... I posted on post #1367 that they should lower from B to C and they already had done that 4 minutes ago. Guess I should have checked but wow.
You all like to bash SBR and this and that, but there is no other forum that compares to SBR and until there is SBR has my respect. No need for an SBR post when they made the downgrade statement. That says it all.
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hawley
SBR Posting Legend
05-10-10
14270
#1411
wow.
this is brutal.
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ttrace35
SBR Posting Legend
09-30-10
10828
#1412
Originally posted by CollegePro
Ok..so Jon is that with BI anymore!! so why the penetrate was Ryan keep telling everyone that he is waiting to hear back from Jon?? WTF???
He was fukking lying to you bro. What dont you understand? Are you hard headed of something?
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bubba
SBR MVP
09-29-05
2432
#1413
Originally posted by allabout the $$$
i could swear he was posting here within the last 2 weeks
jon last emailed me about 9 days ago (last saturday). as recently as this weekend I was told by betislands staff to email jon with a specific question of mine.
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ttrace35
SBR Posting Legend
09-30-10
10828
#1414
Originally posted by RealSlimShady
Too bad it happened to you, Tracer.
You're a street smart guy who knew trouble was brewing right away and got bashed for posting it.....
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lewsparks77
SBR Hustler
12-14-12
56
#1415
so what books are left?
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boeing power
SBR Hall of Famer
03-23-10
9698
#1416
Originally posted by Frogger
Unreal.... I posted on post #1367 that they should lower from B to C and they already had done that 4 minutes ago. Guess I should have checked but wow.
You all like to bash SBR and this and that, but there is no other forum that compares to SBR and until there is SBR has my respect. No need for an SBR post when they made the downgrade statement. That says it all.
Don't give SBR any good guy awards just yet.
If sweeper and tracer knew bet islands was crumbling you have to think SBR knew.
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davidson1023
SBR Rookie
04-17-12
2
#1417
So Jon is gone...who is running the book and who is responsible for the balances? Jon was the GM, not the owner...why is everyone sure that no one will be paid ever?
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Miz
SBR Wise Guy
08-30-09
695
#1418
Bookmaker, 5 dimes. that's about it. Maybe Heritage.
Originally posted by lewsparks77
so what books are left?
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RealSlimShady
SBR Hall of Famer
12-24-07
6249
#1419
Originally posted by cloverfield
Looks like I owe an apology to RealSlim
Earlier in this thread I said it was over-reacting(which it usually is) and while this is yet to finally play out...the writing is on the wall.
I reserve the right to smack RealSlim if this is overblown though...
My apologies RealSlim
Nothing to apologize for.
I just thought that their actions(or lack of), plus excuses made it seem like a book in trouble. At that point, I said a balance there was worth about 25c on the dollar. In my mind, there was about a 75% chance they would go out of business.
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hawley
SBR Posting Legend
05-10-10
14270
#1420
Days like this make me thankful for having access to every book around.
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wtt0315
SBR Hall of Famer
01-18-07
8037
#1421
according to my info the owner/invester left a couple weeks ago so i am not so sure they have anyone
Originally posted by davidson1023
So Jon is gone...who is running the book and who is responsible for the balances? Jon was the GM, not the owner...why is everyone sure that no one will be paid ever?
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Footballtime
SBR MVP
01-20-10
3229
#1422
Wonder if my NFC to win the super bowl play will be paid? Fuking scary shit here boys......... If i dont get paid somehow,( I dont care if bill Dozier and SBR John) Send me my money. I will not be reupping my Pro application. Actually they should be here now for the Pros, Even if its only to chat back and forth with the people that have questions, Someone should be interating with the Pros from SBR. Being a Pro entitles us to think SBR has our backs, especially since they get a % of deposits or losses however it goes. Nice job here to both BI and SBR, but i honestly think 1 is dead(BI) and SBR wont be far behind, actually SBR may not die, but there wont be to many Pros after this shit.............
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CollegePro
SBR MVP
02-23-09
4006
#1423
Originally posted by davidson1023
So Jon is gone...who is running the book and who is responsible for the balances? Jon was the GM, not the owner...why is everyone sure that no one will be paid ever?
Because everyone @ betislands lies.. and they simply do not have funds to pay all of us... and now Jon is not there anymore, who are csr reps will be talking with regarding on the payouts?? NOBODY. Ryan told me he will be in the office tomorrow morning @ 9am est to pick up the phone.. but i have feeling nobody will pick up their phone tomorrow morning.
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Miz
SBR Wise Guy
08-30-09
695
#1424
Originally posted by CollegePro
Because everyone @ betislands lies.. and they simply do not have funds to pay all of us... and now Jon is not there anymore, who are csr reps will be talking with regarding on the payouts?? NOBODY. Ryan told me he will be in the office tomorrow morning @ 9am est to pick up the phone.. but i have feeling nobody will pick up their phone tomorrow morning.
You are correct. Tomorrow = Today. No reason to think there will be any progress
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PAYTON20
SBR Hall of Famer
02-02-10
5217
#1425
Damn this is unreal.
Once again SBR caught desperate for advertisement money so much so that they're willing to let their members take it in the ass and lose thousands.
Not a good look
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lewsparks77
SBR Hustler
12-14-12
56
#1426
how do you get an invite from heritage?
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Mikeyanks23
SBR MVP
11-30-10
4517
#1427
Originally posted by CollegePro
Because everyone @ betislands lies.. and they simply do not have funds to pay all of us... and now Jon is not there anymore, who are csr reps will be talking with regarding on the payouts?? NOBODY. Ryan told me he will be in the office tomorrow morning @ 9am est to pick up the phone.. but i have feeling nobody will pick up their phone tomorrow morning.
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ttrace35
SBR Posting Legend
09-30-10
10828
#1428
Originally posted by ttrace35
Everybody always pays. Until that 1 day when they dont.
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rm18
SBR Posting Legend
09-20-05
22291
#1429
Anyone want to buy my account? all I got is futures I'll take SBR points on the dollar
GameDateUser/PhoneDate PlacedSportDescriptionRisk/WinTicket#:18884203
Dec 24 04:00 PM
ANNIE / 4460Nov 06 02:17 AM
PROP
2012/13 NCAA BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP - ODDS TO WIN
[18636] NORTH CAROLINA ST ML+1300
300 / 3900
Ticket#:18884204
Dec 31 04:00 PM
ANNIE / 4460Nov 06 02:17 AM
Losing bet erased to Preserve Embarassment
200 / 5000
Ticket#:18884205
Dec 31 05:00 PM
ANNIE / 4460Nov 06 02:17 AM
TNT
2012 - 13 NBA ATLANTIC DIVISION - ODDS TO WIN
[16902] BROOKLYN NETS ML+450
200 / 900
Ticket#:18884206
Dec 31 04:58 PM
ANNIE / 4460Nov 06 02:17 AM
MU
STRAIGHT BET
[16844] MAGIC RSW u23½-115
(MAGIC RSW vrs MAGIC RSW)
230 / 200
Ticket#:18890761
Dec 31 02:30 PM
INTERNET / -1Nov 07 11:25 AM
PROP
CBB 2012/13 ACC CONFERENCE - ODDS TO WIN
[18709] NC STATE +175
100 / 175
Ticket#:19094198
Jan 07 05:30 PM
INTERNET / -1Nov 20 01:56 PM
PROP
2012 - 2013 BCS CHAMPIONSHIP - ODDS TO WIN
[17801] ALABAMA -185
185 / 100
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cloverfield
SBR Wise Guy
12-24-10
862
#1430
Originally posted by RealSlimShady
Nothing to apologize for.
I just thought that their actions(or lack of), plus excuses made it seem like a book in trouble. At that point, I said a balance there was worth about 25c on the dollar. In my mind, there was about a 75% chance they would go out of business.
Cheers!
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Mikeyanks23
SBR MVP
11-30-10
4517
#1431
00 / 3900 Ticket#:18884204 Dec 31 04:00 PM ANNIE / 4460Nov 06 02:17 AM Losing bet erased to Preserve Embarassment
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Footballtime
SBR MVP
01-20-10
3229
#1432
So what happens to the contest they ran? i think 1st was suppose to receive a Free TV and some other decent prizes. Anyone get paid or hear anything on these prizes?
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The Kraken
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-25-11
28918
#1433
Originally posted by PAYTON20
Damn this is unreal.
Once again SBR caught desperate for advertisement money so much so that they're willing to let their members take it in the ass and lose thousands.
Not a good look
I've been as critical at SBR and John at times as anyone but I think you're slightly out of line, Payton. Up until this incident, BI had paid the bills and deserved the B rating they were given. They told everyone and SBR that payments would go out today and given their track record were given the benefit of the doubt. And they lied. Yes, lied. They knew the payments weren't going out today.
However upon learning they didn't pay, SBR swiftly took down their banner and downgraded them. What else can SBR do?
I think SBR has done fine here. As for their absence in this thread, it seems they're as in the dark as the rest of us and thats understandable. SBR isn't the problem. Betislands is the problem. Keep perspective here.
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wtt0315
SBR Hall of Famer
01-18-07
8037
#1434
alright guys time for bed. Hopefully will wake up tommorow and this was a bad dream, but instead i will probably dream of spankies cat and wake up tommorow to the same ole shit. Hopefully sbr will figure out a way to make someone pay something but we will see.
gl everyone
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wtt0315
SBR Hall of Famer
01-18-07
8037
#1435
i am glad they finally did but i am pretty sure they knew about the changes last week actualy i know because i know sbr contacted them..
But it doesnt matter either way now. Hopefully people get paid.
Originally posted by The Kraken
I've been as critical at SBR and John at times as anyone but I think you're slightly out of line, Payton. Up until this incident, BI had paid the bills and deserved the B rating they were given. They told everyone and SBR that payments would go out today and given their track record were given the benefit of the doubt. And they lied. Yes, lied. They knew the payments weren't going out today.
However upon learning they didn't pay, SBR swiftly took down their banner and downgraded them. What else can SBR do?
I think SBR has done fine here. As for their absence in this thread, it seems they're as in the dark as the rest of us and thats understandable. SBR isn't the problem. Betislands is the problem. Keep perspective here.