Take Indy early @-4.5, line WILL move up...

[SBR Lou]

Indy -4.5 at Cleveland

There's little to no chance this line ever gets any better than -4.5 for Indy's side. If you wait before game time, you will at least be looking at -6.

We'll take a closer look at this one during the week but for now I'd recommend popping this one for the limit (with respect to your bankroll).

[nick2060]

yea indy should win this game, personally i try to stay away from betting indy though cause there's no way i think they lose this game cause im a fan, but keep in mind jamal lewis and that up the middle run game, and a good TE are very vital parts in beating the cover 2 and i jus wouldnt be suprised if indies defense made this game all too interesting

[SBR Lou]

yea indy should win this game, personally i try to stay away from betting indy though cause there's no way i think they lose this game cause im a fan, but keep in mind jamal lewis and that up the middle run game, and a good TE are very vital parts in beating the cover 2 and i jus wouldnt be suprised if indies defense made this game all too interesting

Don't overanalyze. I am feeling well about this pick as I wouldn't select it otherwise. Let's review the most recent weeks where I've advised taking Indy, (excluding the ML picks in their scrimmages with Houston).

1.) Indy on road vs Pittsburgh, #1 defense. I am laughed at and flamed repeatedly, Indy wins SU.
2.) Indy on road vs SD. I am laughed at and flamed repeatedly and told I'm disagreeing with the market, Indy wins SU.

See a pattern here? Obviously my interpretation of this Indianapolis team has me in the black while everyone else is playing musical chairs with opinions that move with the wind.

[Robust]

Don't overanalyze. I am feeling well about this pick as I wouldn't select it otherwise. Let's review the most recent weeks where I've advised taking Indy, (excluding the ML picks in their scrimmages with Houston).

1.) Indy on road vs Pittsburgh, #1 defense. I am laughed at and flamed repeatedly, Indy wins SU.
2.) Indy on road vs SD. I am laughed at and flamed repeatedly and told I'm disagreeing with the market, Indy wins SU.

See a pattern here? Obviously my interpretation of this Indianapolis team has me in the black while everyone else is playing musical chairs with opinions that move with the wind.

not trying to pick a fight, but i do recall you on indy when they lose SU

Robust

[SBR Lou]

not trying to pick a fight, but i do recall you on indy when they lose SU

Robust

Not every week was a winner but I'm well in the black backing Indy. They did lose against GB and Titans most recently, but each week aside from that I've had ML. Remember their blowout win vs Ravens? Another solid spot. The wins more than make up for the losses with proper bankroll management.

[Robust]

fair enough..

and btw.. i believe the line will come to -3.. might be off, but these two teams are pretty well matched up.. and Cle will pull all the stops after a terrible loss with only 6 pts on the board..

not saying Ind loses (haven't done the work).. but now is the time to take Cle if someone is out there that likes them now.

Robust

[nick2060]

robust, you think the line is gonna move down, or you think the game is gunna be a field goal game?

Indy and the pats are coming back to their old ways of JUST WINNING and doing nothing but, at least thats how the media is making them out to be, which means the public are most likely gonna jump back on these 2 teams, unless its RLM i definitely dont see the line coming down

[Robust]

I believe the line will go down to -3... IND -3, CLE +3

And since cleveland it at home, I expect a huge rush on the line.. wouldn't surprise me if it went down even less (remember the public just saw them beat the Bills.. so they will rush in.. except those that love manning of course.. lol)

is Quinn in for this game? (like i said, no research yet)

Robust

[SBR Lou]

robust, you think the line is gonna move down, or you think the game is gunna be a field goal game?

Indy and the pats are coming back to their old ways of JUST WINNING and doing nothing but, at least thats how the media is making them out to be, which means the public are most likely gonna jump back on these 2 teams, unless its RLM i definitely dont see the line coming down

Precisely why it makes sense to take it now before the public realizes who is playing who. Got to stay ahead of the curve on this stuff.

[SBR Lou]

Quinn done for the year

There will be no more quarterback controversy in Cleveland this season.

Browns quarterback Brady Quinn is done for the year after doctors revealed that the break to his right index finger has gotten worse since he's tried to play through the injury.

Get it while it's hot?

[SBR Lou]

Bump for Hoopster.

[w9ii9]

There is news of Brady Quinn, there could be bad weather, and there could be Bob Sanders news. So it is possible that the line could move somewhere.

[SBR Lou]

There is news of Brady Quinn, there could be bad weather, and there could be Bob Sanders news. So it is possible that the line could move somewhere.

Ok fair enough, but this line was moving regardless of if each member of Cleveland had their dog run over prior to Sunday. This has Colts blowout written all over it.

[bigboydan]

I really like the Browns in this game. Indy is just a bad team this year and has been winning via smoke and mirrors lately.

[bostonbasher]

I really like the Browns in this game. Indy is just a bad team this year and has been winning via smoke and mirrors lately.

Where do you come up w/ the shit that you type,I always think your joking or some 11 yr old who never watched or played a sport in their life.

Im so glad you "really like the browns", that puts Indy in as a lock

Please explain how they are a bad team, they have Peyton who is still 1 of the best, they had been missing their star RB(addai) who is key to the offense, w/ out a running game there is no PA or a threat of a run, also Bob Sanders who is just about the best Def player and biggest difference maker Ive ever seen hasnt been playing.

Also explain "winning via smoke and mirrors", do you even know what that means????

They just beat the chargers @ home and yes the chargers arent that good this yr, but they are the same team that beat the shit out of the jets on MNF and still have a potent offense w/ playmakers @ the skill postions.

[w9ii9]

Ok fair enough, but this line was moving regardless of if each member of Cleveland had their dog run over prior to Sunday. This has Colts blowout written all over it.

Yea, I believe you.

[hoopster42]

youre rite crazy, this line was moving regardless of the quinn injury, i'm gona wait and see if it gets to 6 or higher than i mite take my chances with a fired up derek anderson to play his best game since the giants game and lead the browns to the upset. the value on indy is gone

[hoopster42]

crazyL, will you be on the indy ml or will you give the pts since you think itll be a blowout? indy hasn't covered many as a fave this season. when i brought this up you a few weeks ago you told me that you take them on the ml as faves so it doesnt matter if they cover the line. do you also take them on the ml as dogs or do you take the pts? do you expect them to win every game so you just take every ml, or do you mix in spreads as well?

if you took them as ml fave against the bears, you probably are only break even at this pt or slightly up or down. -8 over the bears was a huge ml that you would have lose.

how many units, ml and spread combined, have you made on indy this yr? they havent exactly been a cash cow so i cant believe youve made very much

there are better teams to back out there

[rm18]

with Anderson in now this is a bad play

[hoopster42]

bumped for crazyL, answers to my queries, please

[hoopster42]

crazyL, will you be on the indy ml or will you give the pts since you think itll be a blowout? indy hasn't covered many as a fave this season. when i brought this up you a few weeks ago you told me that you take them on the ml as faves so it doesnt matter if they cover the line. do you also take them on the ml as dogs or do you take the pts? do you expect them to win every game so you just take every ml, or do you mix in spreads as well?

if you took them as ml fave against the bears, you probably are only break even at this pt or slightly up or down. -8 over the bears was a huge ml that you would have lose.

how many units, ml and spread combined, have you made on indy this yr? they havent exactly been a cash cow so i cant believe youve made very much

there are better teams to back out there

CrazyL, the silence is deafening my man

[DaChosen1FoSho]

i took them at -5. I think Indy wins by 8+. The Texans just beat them by 10. Anderson is in love with Braylon...who can't hold onto the ball this year. Too many damn 5 hour energy drinks get him all wired and jittery makes him drop all those damn passes.

I say in the end Jamal Lewis has a big game, but the cleveland secondary will get torched.

[spmurph]

The line screams bet Indy, however it hasn't moved. 93% of almost 35,000 bets placed are on Indy and the line has not budged. Trap??

[cocknocker]

I am on Cleveland in this game plus the points. Derek Anderson bounces back homies!

[hoopster42]

i have no play, but if forced to pick i go with browns +4.5 and i agree with cocknocker (strange alias, but anyway) that derek anderson will play well in his oppty to win back the loyalties of the cleveland fans

[Godzilla]

Indy should not be trusted

[SBR Lou]

crazyL, will you be on the indy ml or will you give the pts since you think itll be a blowout? indy hasn't covered many as a fave this season. when i brought this up you a few weeks ago you told me that you take them on the ml as faves so it doesnt matter if they cover the line. do you also take them on the ml as dogs or do you take the pts? do you expect them to win every game so you just take every ml, or do you mix in spreads as well?

if you took them as ml fave against the bears, you probably are only break even at this pt or slightly up or down. -8 over the bears was a huge ml that you would have lose.

how many units, ml and spread combined, have you made on indy this yr? they havent exactly been a cash cow so i cant believe youve made very much

there are better teams to back out there

I have picked my spots with Indy although I've been on the ML through their recent winning streak. I'm the worst person in the world with keeping records it's why I don't even bother, I use my spreadsheet sometimes but mostly with the contests ongoing etc I like to post in the forum when I have a play instead of writing it down for my own use. The forum is my sounding board.

I like the ML and side today, and it HAS indeed went up. -225 at Pinny now with a lean on -4.5, and -5 at other shops.

[losturmarbles]

the weather today bumped the spread back down, and the total

i say buy indy down to -3 at anything -150 or better and you should be okay.

[teaserpleaser]

Peyton should light up The Browns Defense... Browns still have a shit pass rush

[purecarnagge]

line is -5...alot of services on indy... so its getting pounded.

[johnnyvegass]

20 year browns season ticket holder here and i will be watching this bloodbath from home. The browns linebackers are AWEFUL and their secondary is worse. Half the team has quit and there is no way the Browns come within 10 points. 1st time in a while im laying a nickle against my browns. Hey money is money.

Colts 37
Browns 20

[dwaechte]

Browns are the play here IMO. I wanted to bet Indy but the numbers too strongly suggest Cleveland.

[Doc JS]

CrazyL,
We're an hour from kickoff and the line is still 4.5 at Bookmaker...

Doc

[St. Andrew]

20 year browns season ticket holder here and i will be watching this bloodbath from home. The browns linebackers are AWEFUL and their secondary is worse. Half the team has quit and there is no way the Browns come within 10 points. 1st time in a while im laying a nickle against my browns. Hey money is money.

Colts 37
Browns 20

HOLY SHIT....CLASSIC! LMAO!

Money is money, my man! Even if you have to bet against your own team.....nice, I like it.

[johnnyvegass]

HOLY SHIT....CLASSIC! LMAO!

Money is money, my man! Even if you have to bet against your own team.....nice, I like it.

Believe me it sickens me but after giving away 2 tickets to 2 bums outside cleveland stadium last week, that tells me we have hit rock bottom. The front office and management is comparable to a circus atmosphere.Lay the 5 1/2, BELIEVELAND~! pfffffffffttttttttt