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  • englishmike
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    • 06-19-08
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    #1
    Ricky Hatton-Pauli Malignaggi, HBO 10.00est
    Been looking for some sort of angle on this fight and can't get away from the fact the dog seems to be overpriced at anything between +200 & +225.

    Hatton has fought once in a year since being dismantled by Floyd Mayweather and that was an unimpressive points win over Juan Lazcano, a fight in which he lacked timing and speed, and whilst I wouldn't say he looked disinterested in that, he did look pretty frustrated at times.

    He's has had problems making the weight and the only reason I can see that Malignaggi is the price he is is because he's got no punch, if he wins it's got to be on points and given the fact Hattons a brawler it's debateable whether it gets that far.

    That's the downside, the upside is Malignaggi has lost only once in his career, to the great Miguel Cotto, and for smallish stakes you could do a lot worse than take the dog. I'm on at
    +225 with Bet365
  • yurboy
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    • 06-11-08
    • 48

    #2
    malignaggi is the bet


    i know paulie doesnt hit hard at all but dont count out a malignaggi knockout, hatton has a glass jaw
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    • Matt Rain
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      #3
      Hatton by decision +111. This will be like Calzaghe-Jones, except not as lopsided. 116-112 type of UD
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      • englishmike
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        #4
        Originally posted by Matt Rain
        Hatton by decision +111. This will be like Calzaghe-Jones, except not as lopsided. 116-112 type of UD
        I definetly wouldn't put you off that because Hatton will be doing all the point scoring work but If it goes that far I just wonder if the dog might prove the stronger from six onwards because of Hattons weight issues.
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        • Matt Rain
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          #5
          Originally posted by yurboy
          i know paulie doesnt hit hard at all but dont count out a malignaggi knockout, hatton has a glass jaw
          I'll book that bet. Paulie couldn't knock down the ref with a sucker punch.
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          • Matt Rain
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            #6
            Mike, Paulie is certainly a good small play at this price, but the fact is that he lost against the only big name he's ever fought. He nearly dropped a decision to journeyman Lovemore N'dou in his last fight. He's a crafty guy with a good defense, but Hatton will not be backing down 1 second during the fight. Ricky doesn't mind taking blows while he comes forward, and since Paulie can't punch for shit, PM won't be able to keep him at a safe distance.
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            • englishmike
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              #7
              Originally posted by Matt Rain
              Mike, Paulie is certainly a good small play at this price, but the fact is that he lost against the only big name he's ever fought. He nearly dropped a decision to journeyman Lovemore N'dou in his last fight. He's a crafty guy with a good defense, but Hatton will not be backing down 1 second during the fight. Ricky doesn't mind taking blows while he comes forward, and since Paulie can't punch for shit, PM won't be able to keep him at a safe distance.
              That's a pretty accurate summary. I suppose the way I'm looking at is, if Paulie can get to the sixth it will mean he's taken Hattons best shots and at that point the weight issues might become a factor. The reason he's the only play for me is because Hatton at -275 is unplayable at that price in my eyes.
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              • Matt Rain
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                #8
                I think it's hilarious that Pinny has +230 for Paulie straight up and only +300 for a decision. I've never seen that small of a difference.
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                • woodg8
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                  • 06-21-08
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                  #9
                  Hatton on points
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                  • flyingillini
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                    • 12-06-06
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                    #10
                    Hatton seems to easy at his price.
                    המוסד‎
                    המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                    • englishmike
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by woodg8
                      Hatton on points
                      You shoud be in bed you fukkin degenerate.
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                      • Matt Rain
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                        #12
                        I agree that playing Hatton straight up is a no-go at this price.

                        Either way, let's hope for a good fight. GL with your bet, sir.
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                        • pavyracer
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                          • 04-12-07
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                          #13
                          I'd bet the white guy out of these two for the max.
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                          • englishmike
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Matt Rain
                            I agree that playing Hatton straight up is a no-go at this price.

                            Either way, let's hope for a good fight. GL with your bet, sir.
                            Likewise.
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                            • Matt Rain
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              I'd bet the white guy out of these two for the max.
                              Paulie is white. Hatton is neon white.
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                              • woodg8
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                                • 06-21-08
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by englishmike
                                You shoud be in bed you fukkin degenerate.
                                I have no money on this, I just wanna see Ricky knock out that cocky queer faced cunt.
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                                • englishmike
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by woodg8
                                  I have no money on this, I just wanna see Ricky knock out that cocky queer faced cunt.
                                  Wow, Woody, why don't you tell us what's on your mind pal?

                                  I know there's no point in even asking this because you're a Spurs homer but what's your lean on the Blackburn game?
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                                  • RogueJuror
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                                    • 07-08-08
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                                    #18
                                    ok matty hatton by desicion

                                    im lost in his last fight but fuk it

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                                    • woodg8
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                                      #19
                                      I dunno, it's a tight one. Modric out, no creatvity in the team, Bale plays and he's never won in a Spurs kit. I'd say 1-1 or 2-1 Spurs.
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                                      • Matt Rain
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RogueJuror
                                        ok matty hatton by desicion

                                        im lost in his last fight but fuk it
                                        Let's do this, Rogatien.
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                                        • poetwarrior41
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                                          • 06-20-08
                                          • 963

                                          #21
                                          Here is a good writeup on the fight courtesy of www.fightjunkie.com

                                          HBO Predictions
                                          By Boxeo


                                          Saturday night showcases Ricky “ Hitman” Hatton’s (44-1, 31KO’s) quest to regain his place among the elite boxers in the 140-pound division when he squares off against slick boxer Paulie “Magic Man” Malignaggi, (25-1, 5KO’s) live from the MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, NV.

                                          Hatton was quickly installed as the clear betting favorite in the fight and the line has pretty much stayed steady with Hatton hovering around the –250 mark. Malignaggi supporters can grab the underdog money at +210. The O/U on the bout is set at 11.5 rounds, with the over coming in at -330 and the under at +270.

                                          Hatton by KO comes in at +380, while Hatton by decision will cost you -105. Malignaggi by KO hits the mark at +1316, and Malignaggi by decision lands at +282.

                                          Both fighters recently had less then spectacular outings in Manchester six months ago. Hatton squared off with veteran Juan Lazcano and Malignaggi traded leather with Lovemore N’dou for a second time.

                                          Neither fighter looked the part that their betting numbers suggested (Hatton was a –1250 favorite and Malignaggi was a -925 favorite) and both betting favorites were hurt in their respective bouts and struggled many times throughout the course of their contests.

                                          Obviously with Malignaggi fighting on the undercard of the Hatton showcase, the powers that be were setting the stage for the match-up that we will witness on Saturday night.

                                          However, after the dismal performances put forth by both fighters back in Manchester, many experts and fight fans alike feel neither fighter will ever again be able to seriously compete with the elite boxers in the division.

                                          After his poor showing against Lazcano, Hatton went out and hired Floyd Mayweather Sr. to help implement some type of defensive technique to his arsenal. As we all know, Hatton was never a defensive genius but his lack of punch resistance against Lazcano was shocking.

                                          Lazcano was a shell of his former self in that bout, but whenever he decided to let his hands go he could not miss his target. In fact, many people feel Hatton needed some hometown cooking from the referee to save him from being knocked out by Lazcano.

                                          Regardless if Hatton would have actually been stopped if not for the referee jumping in to stop the action and tie Ricky Hatton’s shoe, the fact remains Hatton realized that at this stage of his career he must implement some head movement to help avoid being hit so often.

                                          There are few better defensive teachers in the game then Floyd Mayweather Sr., but it will be interesting to see just what kind of teachings he was able to provide to an aggressive pressure fighter like Hatton.

                                          If Hatton could ever afford a lapse in defense it will be in this fight with Malignaggi. With only five stoppage wins in twenty-five victories, I think it’s safe to say Malignaggi does not carry a punch with him inside the ring.

                                          Malignaggi’s game is to hit and not get hit; yet recently he has been less and less sound defensively. His recent showing against N’dou is a perfect example of how he is taking more and more flush shots and being forced to dig down deep and come back from being hurt.

                                          Although Malignaggi has shown a solid chin (he took an absolute beating against Cotto and went 12) his game has never been about taking punishment and fighting through adversity.

                                          Malignaggi blames most of his sub-par performances on very brittle hands. It is not uncommon for him to hurt or break his hands when he steps inside the ring.

                                          There is no question that Malignaggi should be commended for fighting through such pain and continuing to win, but you have to wonder how long he can keep winning against top-notch competition when he enters the ring with such a huge liability.

                                          The biggest problems I can envision for Hatton in this fight is the movement of Malignaggi and the conditioning of the "Hitman".

                                          It’s no secret Hatton balloons way up in weight in between fights and this fight is no exception. In fact, in recent photos Hatton appears severely weight drained and all of the years of draining his body to make weight will undoubtedly catch up to him. The question is… will it be Saturday night?

                                          I think Hatton’s saving grace in this fight may be the lack of punching power from Malignaggi. Sure, the “Magic Man” may outbox him for several rounds, but Hatton will not be absorbing thunderous shots that break his body down.

                                          I think the absolute worst-case scenario for Hatton is a close decision loss. Fight fans and most judges love that aggressive posture that Hatton puts on. The biggest Malignaggi fans on the planet are the folks that suffer from insomnia!

                                          In all seriousness, I only see Malignaggi giving Hatton trouble on the outside. Although Malignaggi likes to think of himself as a defensive master, the truth of the matter is the kid gets hit a lot.

                                          It will not be a contest if Hatton is allowed to get close and maul him to death. Malignaggi simply does not have the physical strength or punching power to discourage Hatton in an inside fight.

                                          Malignaggi’s only hope to win this fight is to peck and move and try to get the nod on the judge’s cards.

                                          If you follow my writings you know I absolutely hate leaving any fight in the hands of the three blind mice at ringside. If you are backing Malignaggi you are doing just that and should seriously look at taking him by decision if the odds permit it.

                                          In my opinion, I don’t see Malignaggi being able to keep Hatton off of him for the entire night. Now there is talk from Hatton about using his boxing skills and this and that, but if he chooses to try and outbox Malignaggi he deserves to lose. His aggressive, pressure style is just what the doctor ordered for this one.

                                          Boxeo: 1.00 Units On Hatton By KO {+380}
                                          Krakrabbit: 3.15 Units On Hatton By Decision {-105}
                                          Grass Hopper: 1.00 Units On Malignaggi {+240} (Vegas Odds)
                                          Doody: 1.00 Units On Hatton By KO {+380}
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                                          • englishmike
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                                            #22
                                            Thanks Poet, good stuff.
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                                            • Matt Rain
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                                              #23
                                              Good amount of resistance at Pinny - I put in two max bets that knocked the odds from +111 to +105, but it was quickly kicked back up. Now up to +120.

                                              Money coming in on the Hatton by KO prop.

                                              Wish I'd waited before pulling the trigger.
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                                              • poetwarrior41
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                                                • 06-20-08
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                                                #24
                                                Any of you guys notice that in the Kirkland Vs Vera fight, that Kirkland has a female trainer? I think this is the first time i have ever seen that before? In the boxing world you figure it wouldnt be easy for her to get fighters. This Kirkland kid must be a free thinker with an open mind, i applaud him for being a pioneer in choosing a female trainer. Any of you guys ever seen a female trainer before?
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                                                • englishmike
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                                                  #25
                                                  Could be related Poet...
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                                                  • Panic
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                                                    #26
                                                    I wanna see her pick him up at the end of the fight when he wins.
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                                                    • poetwarrior41
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                                                      • 06-20-08
                                                      • 963

                                                      #27
                                                      She is a boxer as well, here is her bio.

                                                      Ann Wolfe (born January 17, 1971) is a female boxer who holds 8 world titles, four different weight classes simultaneously. Wolfe is regarded by many within the sport as the hardest puncher in women's boxing.

                                                      Ann made her professional debut by beating Brenda Lee Bell by a four round decision. Her first loss came four fights later, when she was knocked out in three rounds by veteran and future world champion Valerie Mahfood. She beat Vienna Williams by a ten round decision to win her first world title, the IFBA Jr. Middleweight title. Ann beat Gina Nicholas by knockout in three to win the vacant WIBA Light Middleweight title. She then proceeded to beat Shirvelle Williams by knockout in one round on a non title bout. Next was the vacant IFBA world Super Middleweight title, which she picked up by knocking out Marsha Valley in six rounds. She and Valley fought again, this time with the vacant WIBC's version of the title, and Wolfe won by knockout in round ten. She avenged her defeat against Mahfood by taking the NABA world Super Middleweight title from her with a ten round decision.
                                                      On May 8, 2004, she surpassed Henry Armstrong's record of three world titles at the same time in different weight classes, by gaining the IBA world Light Heavyweight championship, knocking out the defending champion, former NCAA basketball star Vonda Ward, at one minute and 8 seconds of round one. Ward was taken to the hospital in serious condition due to damage to her neck and head she recuperated. Television commentators, including former world Lightweight champion Sean O' Grady, called this "the greatest knockout in women boxing's history". Wolfe retained her title in a rematch with Valley, by a sixth round knockout. On July 19,2005, Wolfe defeated Monica Nunez by a seventh round knockout in Lula, Mississippi. On August 20, she defeated Valerie Mahfood by a ten round decision.
                                                      Ann Wolfe's record stands at 24 wins and 1 loss, with 16 wins by knockout
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                                                      • maniac0201
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                                                        • 09-16-08
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                                                        #28
                                                        This stream is working pretty good.

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                                                        • poetwarrior41
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                                                          • 06-20-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          Can you believe the balls on Hatton to wear that fat suit into the ring. I never have seen anything like this before.
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                                                          • Matt Rain
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                                                            #30
                                                            LOL @ Hatton's Fatman suit.
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                                                            • Matt Rain
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                                                              #31
                                                              Oy, Paulie's about to go to sleep. He was badly hurt in the 2nd.
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                                                              • englishmike
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                                                                #32
                                                                The fatman thing is a dig at everyone who has said he's a fatboy, just his sense of humour really, he's a genuine guy and still plays darts for his local pub team paying £2 to play, he's no different to you or I.
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                                                                • maniac0201
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                                                                  • 09-16-08
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  No way Paulie lasts 12 rounds.
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                                                                  • Matt Rain
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Yeah Mike, he's been mocking his weight swings for several fights now. I vaguely remember the first time he wore his "Fatton" shirt, I think it was against Tszyu.

                                                                    He doesn't look the same person at all when he balloons up between fights. He must gain something like 40-50 pounds.
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                                                                    • RogueJuror
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                                                                      • 07-08-08
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      how's it going poet man? how is LA treatin ya?

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