My 2000th post - why your write ups are all total bs

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  • mathdotcom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-08
    • 11689

    #1
    My 2000th post - why your write ups are all total bs
    Example:

    Team A vs. Team B
    My pick, Team A ML -110

    Player 1 for Team A has never lost to an Eastern conference team on a Tuesday.
    [This statistic is obviously meaningless, but what about stats about Team A's record vs. Team B over the past 10 years. Wtf does a game 10 years ago mean today?]

    Player 2 for Team A will be eager to make up for his poor performance.
    [Okay. Or maybe his poor performance is because he sucks and will suck again tonight.]

    Players 3 and 4 for Team A have chemistry.
    [This is a favorite of Vegas Dave. Look at his writeup on Capitals/Kings game today, he uses it for almost all of his reasons for his bet]

    Player 5 always does well in <City of Team B>.
    [For one, this could just be randomness. For another, it inevitably refers back to my first point, that games from previous years are essentially irrelevant]


    If you're going to post a write-up, talk about information that you think has not already been included in the line. The fact that Team B just plain sucks is already included in the line. If you don't have information that wouldn't be included in the line, then you're just paying juice on a coin flip. This is known as "being a moron".
  • onthewhat
    Restricted User
    • 05-14-08
    • 15411

    #2
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    • mathdotcom
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-24-08
      • 11689

      #3
      I'm sure you could all add 100 more examples of this writeup stupidity.
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      • flyingillini
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 41219

        #4
        המוסד‎
        המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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        • Nicky Santoro
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-08-08
          • 16103

          #5
          even if you know 1,353 things about a game.. and you think you have an advantage, keep dreaming.. no matter how good a team is or how bad a team is.. the spread makes it 50-50.. it's like handicapping a flip of a coin and trying to think about what next flip will be.. ok, heads has been hot of late, yet tails has won the last 2 flips, however, heads is 22-5 in its last 27 flips, but heads is also 6-0 in spins that were taken place following 2 straight tails.. so i love heads on next spin..

          and that is basically what a write up is worth.. zilcho.. i dont care how much you know, the line is already applied into it.. that's why spread is there, to make it 50-50. so even if heads is hot and all and you think heads is the good bet.. its 50-50 no matter what..

          write ups are silly.. and waste of time..
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          • gordon gekko
            SBR MVP
            • 05-01-08
            • 2842

            #6
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            • Panic
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-06-08
              • 10367

              #7
              I dont do write ups or any of that sh!t. Mainly because I'm not talented enough. But, we are on a gambling forum, what else would you have posters do after they make a pick? Or should there be no pick threads with no write ups also? That would be pretty funny on a gambling forum. It would be like going to a workout forum and saying dont post any workout routines.
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              • flyingillini
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-06-06
                • 41219

                #8
                Originally posted by Panic
                I dont do write ups or any of that sh!t. Mainly because I'm not talented enough. But, we are on a gambling forum, what else would you have posters do after they make a pick? Or should there be no pick threads with no write ups also? That would be pretty funny on a gambling forum. It would be like going to a workout forum and saying dont post any workout routines.
                Exactly!
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                • mathdotcom
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-24-08
                  • 11689

                  #9
                  A better analogy would be someone on a politics forum saying Obama will win because his last name has fewer letters than McCain's does.

                  The uncertainty inherent in betting markets is not witnessed in working out forums.

                  I have no problem with people posting picks or saying their pick is because of a gut instinct. But don't pretend like it's a science and you derived a proof that the probability of one team beating the spread is > 50% (or should I say 52.4%).
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                  • rjt721
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-06-07
                    • 7929

                    #10
                    Nice. A write-up on why write-ups suck.
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                    • reno cool
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-02-08
                      • 3567

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mathdotcom
                      Example:

                      Team A vs. Team B
                      My pick, Team A ML -110

                      Player 1 for Team A has never lost to an Eastern conference team on a Tuesday.
                      [This statistic is obviously meaningless, but what about stats about Team A's record vs. Team B over the past 10 years. Wtf does a game 10 years ago mean today?]

                      Player 2 for Team A will be eager to make up for his poor performance.
                      [Okay. Or maybe his poor performance is because he sucks and will suck again tonight.]

                      Players 3 and 4 for Team A have chemistry.
                      [This is a favorite of Vegas Dave. Look at his writeup on Capitals/Kings game today, he uses it for almost all of his reasons for his bet]

                      Player 5 always does well in <City of Team B>.
                      [For one, this could just be randomness. For another, it inevitably refers back to my first point, that games from previous years are essentially irrelevant]


                      If you're going to post a write-up, talk about information that you think has not already been included in the line. The fact that Team B just plain sucks is already included in the line. If you don't have information that wouldn't be included in the line, then you're just paying juice on a coin flip. This is known as "being a moron".
                      well said. wannabe professional handicappers should consider your post.
                      bird bird da bird's da word
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                      • VegasDave
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-03-07
                        • 8056

                        #12
                        Is this why you dislike me so much?

                        Write-Ups are very easy to ignore... usually easy to identify from the thread title. Skip over them.

                        I think its sad that discussion about why a game is or is not a good bet is looked at as a bad thing on a GAMBLING FORUM.
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