USC is really gonna beat Notre Dame?

[SamDiamond]

USC is the best team in the country when they want to be. I think they show up for Notre Dame.

Based on what? Who the hell have they beaten?

[SBR_John]

Won't need to score 30 with Kiffin and mini Sanchez at QB

I respect USC especially in the Coliseum and double especially as a rare home dog. But I don't think this is a good matchup at all. They haven't played a good defense since Moby Dick was a minnow. They have a bunch of 1st rounders but they don't play hard nose football. I think ND brings it and forces them into mistakes.

[pokernut9999]

just like john, we'll use bookmaker and 5dimes as the offical lines.

agreed?

works for me

[Vegas39]

I respect USC especially in the Coliseum and double especially as a rare home dog. But I don't think this is a good matchup at all. They haven't played a good defense since Moby Dick was a minnow. They have a bunch of 1st rounders but they don't play hard nose football. I think ND brings it and forces them into mistakes.

Was my point too I expect they pick off Barkley a few times and Kiffins will go for it on 4th down on own side of field at least once

[SBR_John]

For the record I say it opens at ND -2 and toggles between -2.5 and -3 until kickoff.

[iifold]

I respect USC especially in the Coliseum and double especially as a rare home dog. But I don't think this is a good matchup at all. They haven't played a good defense since Moby Dick was a minnow. They have a bunch of 1st rounders but they don't play hard nose football. I think ND brings it and forces them into mistakes.

We all know there will be mistakes, and dumb decisions by Kiffin, but there will also be big plays by USC...

And ND drives that end in field goals...

[Vegas39]

USC defense can't even hold UCLA

[pokernut9999]

USC defense can't even hold UCLA

Yet favored on their field , my point exactly.

[iifold]

USC defense can't even hold UCLA

Who's offense is better UCLA or ND??

[GOIRISH]

william walters in 3......2......1.......

[Vegas39]

Blocked FG

[wantitall4moi]

they have to favor USC because retards keep betting them, just like the lakers. Fools still keep betting them.

Books make enough money as it is with the bad lines why make them any better? USC got destroyed today, I was the only guy with my local (who is in L.A.) to take UCLA, he gave me +200 ML just so he could balance off some of the action he had on USC.

I get numbers 2 points sometimes better on Lakers opponents because he is always 70-30 at least. Basically he is laying off his shit with me, I have even had a couple other guys call me looking to see if I would take an opposite side. How many guys have had bookies call THEM? Not many I bet.

Books can only do so much they have to guess what bettors are going to do, sometimes theyre right sometimes their wrong.

ND at USC I figure they throw up a punt number of USC -1, when the actual number should really be Notre Dame -3. But I wouldnt be surprised to see USC close close to a FG favorite.

[SamDiamond]

william walters in 3......2......1.......

Will's alright but I'm thinking there isn't enough booze to drown his sorrows after watching that.

It's official. UCLA has done found themselves a footbaw coach.

And that's scares Kiffin to death.

[SamDiamond]

Sidenote.

Barkley's shoulder.

This game may not get on the board til Tuesday.

[SBR_John]

I only saw Wake past mid field twice the whole game. Lookin forward to next week.

[Vegas39]

Sidenote.

Barkley's shoulder.

This game may not get on the board til Tuesday.

What will line be with no Barkley

[wantitall4moi]

These USC kids quit after the second loss theyre all getting agents and jockying for draft postiotns now, thats why college football is a joke and the whole "the whole season is aplay off' is a laugh. No it sint teams with guys who can play in the NFL pretty much quit after their first loss because they know their odds of getting a glass trophy are zero. It doesnt matter ot most of them anyway.

Barlkey is actually worse than Lienhart because Lienhart came back but didnt completely destroy the fantasy that he was an NFL QB. Barkley has shown he isnt even a good college QB.

All those USC Qbs all the wya from Palmer to Sanchez all had one thing in common dominant play makers on both sides of the ball making them look better than they are. Look at these stiffs once they hit the NFL. Palmer is the only one that was half way decent, but he was also head and shoulders better than the other guys who followed him.

Sanchez is a frigging joke and if anyone but that fat clown was coaching the Jets he wouldnt have started past game 3.

[paranoyd androyd]

Again ......Notre Dame will not be favored over USC on the road.


They can and may blow them out but will not be favored.

and, again, notre dame will be a 3 or 4 pt favorite. stop being stupid.

[SamDiamond]

and, again, notre dame will be a 3 or 4 pt favorite. stop being stupid.

THIS. ND will absolutely be the favorite.

[LT Profits]

Notre Dame -2.5

[Slimpickens]

If Barkley plays USC will absolutely be favored in this spot and they should be. Notre Dame will finally get exposed for the fraud they are.

[Vegas39]

If Barkley plays USC will absolutely be favored in this spot and they should be. Notre Dame will finally get exposed for the fraud they are.

Sure kid

[Walulu]

I hope ND isnt favored. Give us some bulletin board material.

[LT Profits]

If Barkley plays USC will absolutely be favored in this spot and they should be. Notre Dame will finally get exposed for the fraud they are.

ND will absolutely be a small favorite, that does not mean that USC won't blast them. It is two different subjects.

[Slimpickens]

ND will absolutely be a small favorite, that does not mean that USC won't blast them. It is two different subjects.

I understand that they are 2 different matters. Has the line been posted throughout the year anyone know? Some books have lines for some expected big games before and throughout the season.

[LT Profits]

Sagarin had ND -4 neutral before today. It will probably be -5 after today.

[Slimpickens]

Hmm, I dunno I will believe it when I see it. USC athletes are so superior to ND its not funny.

[SBR_John]

It would be unsettling to have the 3rd ranked team, and possibly the number 1 ranked team the way these two games are going, to be a dog to an unranked opponent. I would venture that even a 3rd ranked team has never been a dog to an unranked team.

[GOIRISH]

Hmm, I dunno I will believe it when I see it. USC athletes are so superior to ND its not funny.

Serious question, are you fukkin retarted?

[pokernut9999]

It would be unsettling to have the 3rd ranked team, and possibly the number 1 ranked team the way these two games are going, to be a dog to an unranked opponent. I would venture that even a 3rd ranked team has never been a dog to an unranked team.

Looks like they may be the #1 ranked team

[pokernut9999]

Would be shocked if K ST comes back

[SBR_John]

Baylor can give up tons of points(see Bay vs WV). Not over but K St needs to score before halftime.

[Slimpickens]

Serious question, are you fukkin retarted?

Are you? What are you talking about? You line up both squads offensive and defensive starters, your saying that ND has better athletes? Thats rediculous.

[Walulu]

Are you? What are you talking about? You line up both squads offensive and defensive starters, your saying that ND has better athletes? Thats rediculous.

I believe he's saying there isn't really a difference between the two. Both teams have equally good athletes. One appears to be better coached than the other though. But yeah, let's say lineup those defenses side by side and see who is better.

[billysink]

Are you? What are you talking about? You line up both squads offensive and defensive starters, your saying that ND has better athletes? Thats rediculous.

That has about as much to do with the final score of a game as a rerun of Mary Fukkin Poppins.

I thank the big fella every day for bettors like you.