Can I Get A SBR Millionaire Scientist In Here For The Late NBA Game....

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  • Cloak & Dagger
    SBR MVP
    • 11-15-07
    • 4781

    #36
    LAL/CHI 2nd HALF UNDER 102

    good "luck" cooler
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    • Cloak & Dagger
      SBR MVP
      • 11-15-07
      • 4781

      #37
      Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
      Wow. You are retarded.
      I put up another play scientist

      use your cooling powers and hope for me to lose!

      I dont think so though

      I feel "lucky" tonight

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      • MonkeyF0cker
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-12-07
        • 12144

        #38
        Wow. You actually made a +EV middle. Congratulations.
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        • MonkeyF0cker
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 06-12-07
          • 12144

          #39
          That's a perfect example of a +EG wager that didn't hit. It doesn't make it the wrong play, however. Assuming you bet the same amount on each play @ -110, you were ~32% for a 20:1 payoff. Good bet.
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          • Cloak & Dagger
            SBR MVP
            • 11-15-07
            • 4781

            #40
            Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
            That's a perfect example of a +EG wager that didn't hit. It doesn't make it the wrong play, however. Assuming you bet the same amount on each play @ -110, you were ~32% for a 20:1 payoff. Good bet.
            2nd half went over by 6 points

            I was unlucky on the 2nd half bet but I dont bet many units on halftime wagers
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            • MonkeyF0cker
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-12-07
              • 12144

              #41
              If you bet the same amount on both plays when you try to middle like that, all you have at risk is the juice from the possible losing wager. To make it simple, assume -110 and you wager $110 on the o202 and $110 on the u102. Each point in the total in between 202 and 219 is the total of a game roughly 2% of the time. So basically, you are risking only the $10 in juice on a possible losing ticket for a roughly 32% chance to middle and win $200. This is simplified but it is the basic premise behind the calculations. If you make that same play at every opportunity, you WILL make money long term (and quite a bit).
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              • Cloak & Dagger
                SBR MVP
                • 11-15-07
                • 4781

                #42
                Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                If you bet the same amount on both plays when you try to middle like that, all you have at risk is the juice from the possible losing wager. To make it simple, assume -110 and you wager $110 on the o202 and $110 on the u102. Each point in the total in between 202 and 219 is the total of a game roughly 2% of the time. So basically, you are risking only the $10 in juice on a possible losing ticket for a roughly 32% chance to middle and win $200. This is simplified but it is the basic premise behind the calculations. If you make that same play at every opportunity, you WILL make money long term (and quite a bit).
                I will respect your angles

                as long as you respect mine

                some nice information you just posted and I look forward to implementing it into my wagering some time in the near future
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                • MonkeyF0cker
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-12-07
                  • 12144

                  #43
                  That doesn't even include the possible push for one of the totals...
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                  • Cloak & Dagger
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-15-07
                    • 4781

                    #44
                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                    That doesn't even include the possible push for one of the totals...
                    for the record....I wasent saying that using math to find an edge was a bad thing

                    you need every edge you can get in this game

                    I was offended by the slamming of my "luck" angle

                    my angle involves no science or math

                    I hope you see where I was coming from monekyf0cker

                    one thing I will take from our conversations today here on SBR is I will make it a point to involve a little math and science into my grand wagering scheme

                    and it if returns dividends....ill be sure to stop buy and give you props

                    stay up
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                    • MonkeyF0cker
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-12-07
                      • 12144

                      #45
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                      • donjuan
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-29-07
                        • 3993

                        #46
                        If you bet the same amount on both plays when you try to middle like that, all you have at risk is the juice from the possible losing wager.
                        I haven't done the calcs to see if this is actually +EG but I'm fairly certain this isn't optimal unless the 2H bet is +EV or EV-neutral.
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