Should Chauncey Billups be consider one of the best guard ever?

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  • datek23
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-08-06
    • 667

    #1
    Should Chauncey Billups be consider one of the best guard ever?
    I say yes. He never turns over the ball and slows the game down . Too many big time shots over the years. Very physical and fast, using his strengh to push around other guards. His stats are not the best but hey he wins.
    11
    YES, Hey he wins pretty much wherever he goes
    0%
    5
    NO, his stats do not match up to other guards
    0%
    6

    The poll is expired.

  • Kingctb27
    SBR MVP
    • 07-16-08
    • 2258

    #2
    Very under-rated player, IMO. It's not all about how many points you score to win games. Ast/TO ratio is key and also defense is very key as well. I would take him over a guy like Nash (who has two MVP's) who can't play defense to save his life, that is for certain.
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    • datek23
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-08-06
      • 667

      #3
      good assessment. He is money!!!

      Originally posted by Kingctb27
      Very under-rated player, IMO. It's not all about how many points you score to win games. Ast/TO ratio is key and also defense is very key as well. I would take him over a guy like Nash (who has two MVP's) who can't play defense to save his life, that is for certain.
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      • SBR Lou
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-02-07
        • 37863

        #4
        I made a thread about this a while ago.

        Personally, I think the guy may very well be the best player of all time.
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        • datek23
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-08-06
          • 667

          #5
          Whenever I see a ESPN rank them poll of the greatest guards ever, Chauncey Billups has always been on their rank em poll for the last 4 or 5 years. People might rank him low on the near bottom but hey it is a previlage to be on a ESPN all time great poll no matter if you are near the bottom or top. However this is about 2-3 years ago. I am sure he will move up the rankings now. He kinda reminds me of a Joe Dumars, did not have the best stats but made it to the Hall of Fame on first ballot.

          Originally posted by CrazyL
          I made a thread about this a while ago.

          Personally, I think the guy may very well be the best player of all time.
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          • durito
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-03-06
            • 13173

            #6
            I used to go watch Chauncey play at George Washington High School around 1995-96. He was so ****ing good then. I remember when he shocked everyone by committing to Colorado. It was thought that he had them on the list just as a courtesy and that he was going to UNC or Kansas.
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            • datek23
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 01-08-06
              • 667

              #7
              Lets not get carried away with him being the best player of all time. I must admit he is the most physical guard probably of all time but far from the best player. He is the best at the half court game and slowing the tempo of the game down to his team advantage. Very good at wearing out other guards by bullying them He reminds me of a Pitbull bully that does not back down!!!.

              Originally posted by CrazyL
              I made a thread about this a while ago.

              Personally, I think the guy may very well be the best player of all time.
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              • daggerkobe
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-25-08
                • 10744

                #8
                No. Not even top 10 greatest.
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                • MJFtheGenius
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 05-31-07
                  • 7257

                  #9
                  He is right on the edge of top ten point guards
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                  • louisvillekid
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-14-07
                    • 9263

                    #10
                    i wouldn't say greatest, or be on a list of greats. If you want to say in the past 10 years, he might be a top 20. now don't get me wrong, he is a solid guard, does all the intangibles, but won't ever get the credit of high profile guards that are in the lime light.

                    Originally posted by durito
                    I used to go watch Chauncey play at George Washington High School around 1995-96. He was so ****ing good then. I remember when he shocked everyone by committing to Colorado. It was thought that he had them on the list just as a courtesy and that he was going to UNC or Kansas.
                    I remember when i played in a fantasy league with a bunch of guys i worked with, we had a draft at some guys house the year he was a rookie, we each had to have 2 rookies on our roster, i remember when i took him, over some other big name rookies and people were making fun of me. well they turned out to be right, i thought because Pitino was at Boston he would use him. didn't use him so much, but he still turned out to be the type of NBA guard i thought he could be, just not at Boston.
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82882

                      #11
                      All these are better than Billups:

                      Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Baron Davis.
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                      • daggerkobe
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-25-08
                        • 10744

                        #12
                        Billups was a journeyman (5 teams in 7 seasons) that found a niche with the Pistons. I have a hard time putting him in the same league with Magic, Isiah, DJ, Payton, Stockton, and other greats.
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                        • Wilforth
                          Restricted User
                          • 05-10-08
                          • 16309

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          All these are better than Billups:

                          Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Baron Davis.
                          What's your criteria?
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                          • pavyracer
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-12-07
                            • 82882

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Wilforth
                            What's your criteria?
                            Draft pick order.
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                            • Kingctb27
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-16-08
                              • 2258

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              All these are better than Billups:

                              Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Baron Davis.
                              Fiction. Baron Davis is a chucker and isn't in his league. Nash plays absolutely no defense. Kidd and him are neck and neck, but Billups has the ring.

                              Deron and Paul too young to call.
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                              • SBR Lou
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-02-07
                                • 37863

                                #16
                                Originally posted by louisvillekid
                                now don't get me wrong, he is a solid guard, does all the intangibles, but won't ever get the credit of high profile guards that are in the lime light.
                                In other words, because ESPN hasn't force-fed you him he'll never be worthy of being mentioned as one of the all time greats at his position?
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  I would say a top 15 type player

                                  He is no Jason Kidd
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                                  • louisvillekid
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-14-07
                                    • 9263

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CrazyL
                                    In other words, because ESPN hasn't force-fed you him he'll never be worthy of being mentioned as one of the all time greats at his position?
                                    for me personally, i think he is a solid guard and one of the top 20 to play his position in the past decade. But he is not ever going to be on my list of top 20 for All-Time.

                                    now for the masses. because like i said , he is not a high profile player, isn't "Marketed", you will probably never see him ranked in mags or tv as being one of the all-time greats.

                                    that's just how i see it.
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                                    • datek23
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-08-06
                                      • 667

                                      #19
                                      What do those players have? All of players are good but they do not have the winning attitude Billiups has. Billiups pushes all those guards around. Deron Williams and Chris Paul are good but have never won nothing.
                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                      All these are better than Billups:

                                      Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Baron Davis.
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                                      • datek23
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-08-06
                                        • 667

                                        #20
                                        I just looked at Billiups stats and they are average at best. Best his winning and popularity will make him to the hall of fame. Joe Dumars did not hall of fame numbers but made it to the Hall of Fame on first ballot because his winning and stop Jordan early in his career.

                                        Originally posted by datek23
                                        What do those players have? All of players are good but they do not have the winning attitude Billiups has. Billiups pushes all those guards around. Deron Williams and Chris Paul are good but have never won nothing.
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