Oklahoma Opens -7 at Pinny?????????????????

[laxdjock]

+7 was really tempting....but I haven't a chance to really break down this game, so I passed. I may stick with the O/U.

[Panic]

First it was, Kansas will beat Tech in Kansas. Tech whips their ass. Next it was, Texas will crush Tech. Tech beats Texas in Lubbock....score much closer than the game actually was. Next it was OSU will take Tech out. Tech crushes them by 35+. Now there's OU and people still want to believe Tech is overrated. Becareful. I wouldnt go betting my lifesavings on the Sooners here. Tech is the best team in the nation right now. I would love to see a Florida/Tech match up in the NC.

[Lout84]

If Oklahoma beats Tech and OSU, then Oklahoma would for sure goto the Big 12 Championship, and if they beat Missouri in the Big 12 Championship, there is no way they don't go to the National Championship. You can not send Texas to the National Title game when they didn't even win their own Conference. Same thing happened last year with Georgia. If Oklahoma beats Tech, OSU, and Missouri to finish their season, I don't care if Texas does have the tie-breaker between them, OU is going to the Nat'l Championship.

[Trey333]

OU at home.. Love their record at home with Stoops at the helm. The odds are in Oklahoma's favor. -6 at home is a gift. Texas Tech went in to Overtime with Nebraska in Lincoln.. they are not nearly as dominant on the road.

My question is, will a win over Texas Tech catipult Oklahoma over Texas in the BCS standings? If not, how about a win over Texas Tech then Oklahoma St in back to back weeks? I think we could be looking at a Florida vs. Oklahoma national championship.

Lout,
I really haven't seen much from TTU on the road either, and I don't think thy will play as well on grass or be as in-sync on offense in front of a hostile crowd. Oklahoma is a tough team to beat at home, going 42-1 in Norman since 2002. The lone loss was the freak upset by TCU to open 2005.

Oklahoma will not catapult by Texas with a win here, as Texas has faced a much tougher schedule (#1 SOS to OU's 54) and Texas has a sizable lead in the computers and the human polls. And when you think about the human polls, they will look at Texas coming a dropped INT before the final circus catch with 1 second left at TTU from being undefeated, whereas OU got a sound beating by UT on a neutral field for its loss.

[Dbldown11]

First it was, Kansas will beat Tech in Kansas. Tech whips their ass. Next it was, Texas will crush Tech. Tech beats Texas in Lubbock....score much closer than the game actually was. Next it was OSU will take Tech out. Tech crushes them by 35+. Now there's OU and people still want to believe Tech is overrated. Becareful. I wouldnt go betting my lifesavings on the Sooners here. Tech is the best team in the nation right now. I would love to see a Florida/Tech match up in the NC.

I personally never said that Texas would beat Tech on the road, and I deffinately didnt say it about OK St....

So it's not just the people that thought theyd lose before....it's those people plus a bunch more. They are going on the road to face the best team in the Big 12 IMO....and it's a team that almost never loses at home

[Panic]

Tech has beaten OU 2 out of the last 3 times they have played. Now, granted, they haven't done it in Norman, but this is a much better team than Leach has had in the past....actually it is probably the best team he's ever had. This team plays defense. If OSU couldnt score on them, Kansas couldnt score on them, and the Longhorns couldnt score on them til late....then I see Oklahoma having problems as well. On the other side...OU defense sucks ass...Tech is gonna have a field day.

[Trey333]

If Oklahoma beats Tech and OSU, then Oklahoma would for sure goto the Big 12 Championship, and if they beat Missouri in the Big 12 Championship, there is no way they don't go to the National Championship. You can not send Texas to the National Title game when they didn't even win their own Conference. Same thing happened last year with Georgia. If Oklahoma beats Tech, OSU, and Missouri to finish their season, I don't care if Texas does have the tie-breaker between them, OU is going to the Nat'l Championship.

I wouldn't say that at all. I still think Texas goes to th BigXII championship in that scenario and see no reason why they wouldn't. They will be higher than OU in the BCS and that is the tiebreaker. The only way OU gets past UT in the BCS is if UT loses to TAMU.

[Dbldown11]

Tech has beaten OU 2 out of the last 3 times they have played. Now, granted, they haven't done it in Norman, but this is a much better team than Leach has had in the past....actually it is probably the best team he's ever had. This team plays defense. If OSU couldnt score on them, Kansas couldnt score on them, and the Longhorns couldnt score on them til late....then I see Oklahoma having problems as well. On the other side...OU defense sucks ass...Tech is gonna have a field day.

First of all Kansas blows ass....so lets not use them as an example haha....Secondly their defense is gonna have a much harder time against Oklahoma considering they wont have all that crowd noise to help (which makes a BIG difference). I think Oklahoma is the best team overall in the Big12 without question. Texas Tech has had two big victories in a row at home.....it's gonna be hard to play a third straight HUGE game, especially with this one coming on the road against the toughest home team you could possibly find.

[SoonerGreg]

Lout,
I really haven't seen much from TTU on the road either, and I don't think thy will play as well on grass or be as in-sync on offense in front of a hostile crowd. Oklahoma is a tough team to beat at home, going 42-1 in Norman since 2002. The lone loss was the freak upset by TCU to open 2005.

Oklahoma will not catapult by Texas with a win here, as Texas has faced a much tougher schedule (#1 SOS to OU's 54) and Texas has a sizable lead in the computers and the human polls. And when you think about the human polls, they will look at Texas coming a dropped INT before the final circus catch with 1 second left at TTU from being undefeated, whereas OU got a sound beating by UT on a neutral field for its loss.

As a lifelong fan and graduate of Oklahoma University, I hope we do jump Texas. One thing you have to remember is that Texas has the #1 SOS because they have already played Texas Tech and Oklahoma St. OU's SOS will skyrocket after those two matchups. Also the Texas SOS will drop after they throttle A&M.

As far as the BCS goes, If Tech wins obviously they are in the Big XII Championship and probably a National Championship. If OU beats Tech and O-State there is a three way tie. Personally I think if OU doesn't beat Tech by at least 14 pts then Texas should stay ahead of OU. I think that might be enough to catapult the Sooners over the Longhorns.

[chucksmith]

As a lifelong fan and graduate of Oklahoma University, I hope we do jump Texas. One thing you have to remember is that Texas has the #1 SOS because they have already played Texas Tech and Oklahoma St. OU's SOS will skyrocket after those two matchups. Also the Texas SOS will drop after they throttle A&M.

As far as the BCS goes, If Tech wins obviously they are in the Big XII Championship and probably a National Championship. If OU beats Tech and O-State there is a three way tie. Personally I think if OU doesn't beat Tech by at least 14 pts then Texas should stay ahead of OU. I think that might be enough to catapult the Sooners over the Longhorns.

How in the hell do you figure OU should jump Texas? Did you forget what happened when the 2 teams met Oct 11? OU had their shot at Texas and did not get the job done. Live with it.

[SoonerGreg]

Tech has beaten OU 2 out of the last 3 times they have played. Now, granted, they haven't done it in Norman, but this is a much better team than Leach has had in the past....actually it is probably the best team he's ever had. This team plays defense. If OSU couldnt score on them, Kansas couldnt score on them, and the Longhorns couldnt score on them til late....then I see Oklahoma having problems as well. On the other side...OU defense sucks ass...Tech is gonna have a field day.

Wow, that's a bit bold. If you want to talk history, OU is 6-2 against Tech with Leech as the head coach. In 2005 the Sooners got hosed in Lubbock with a 2 pt lose as they stopped a Tech RB a full yard shy of the goal-line on the last play of the game. Even the announcers couldn't believe they officials ruled a TD. The 2007 game in Lubbock had Bradford getting knocked out of the game with a concussion on the Sooners first series of the game. They still only lost by 7 pt with the worst backup QB in the history of football running their offense.

Oklahoma has the most explosive offense in the nation. Consider this: Bradford leads the nation in Passing Efficiency and TDs despite only playing the 4th quarter in 4 games.

I wouldn't say the Sooners Defense sucks either. I think both teams have amazing Offenses. The Sooners D has better athletes and I think will be the difference. This sucker will definately be a high scoring affair.

[SBR_John]

Back to 6.5 to 7 at most places.

Texas TechOklahoma+6½ +105-6½ -115+6½ -110-6½ -110+6½ -110-6½ -110+7 -110-7 -110+6½ -110-6½ -110+6½ +100-6½ -120+7 -110-7 -110+7 -110-7 -110+6½ -110-6½ -110

[Panic]

This may be another ML game for me. Might just take Tech on the mL @ + 206

[SBR_John]

Tech put a lot of pressure on McCoy and if you recall one of the main keys to Texas beating OU was pressure on the QB.

I'd give the X's and O's to Tech. But this is college football on the main stage in Norman. Too much pressure for the Raiders. Ive decided I wont bet this game because Tech is dangerous even when way behind. If Tech can avoid the early mistakes and turnovers they may well win. If I had to bet this game I'd take Okla in the first half and Tech on the moneyline for the game.

[pavyracer]

I put a huge bet on Texas Tech +7. Stoops is a chronic underachiever.

[Panic]

The Tech ML is just to inviting in this spot. Norman is gonna be tough, but I think this Tech team has gotten over their big hurdle when they beat the Longhorns. Their offense is awfully tough to stop. In the last 5 games, OU is allowing 30+ points/gm. This Tech team should lay 45+ on them.

[Dbldown11]

......if you're gonna take Tech it should deffinately be + the points. Have you seen Oklahoma's home record since Stoops has coached there???? Theyve lost twice.........

+206 isnt nearly enough for a ML bet with those kinda stats

[Panic]

Took Texas ML against OU. Took Tech ML against Longhorns. Gotta do it here as well. Just to much value. Anytime you can grab a team like this @ 200+, you gotta take it.

[Dbldown11]

yeah that's true too....I'd say goodluck....but im probably gonna be on OK - the points haha

[Panic]

Either way it comes out, should be a good game. If you're around for the game thread, I'll see ya there.

[SoonerGreg]

How in the hell do you figure OU should jump Texas? Did you forget what happened when the 2 teams met Oct 11? OU had their shot at Texas and did not get the job done. Live with it.

I said if OU dominates the same Tech team that beat Texas, then OU should jump Texas since all three teams would have only one loss against each other. If you watched the game on Oct 11th, you noticed OU had the lead until late in the 4th. It was a great game, unfortunately my Sooners were on the wrong side.

[Dbldown11]

Soonergreg while I agree with you that OU is the best team in the Big12 a home victory over Tech....should not be valued as heavily as the neutral field victory texas had over OU...Nor should Techs home win over texas be valued as heavily as texas's neutral field victory over OU

[SBR_John]

This is a great thread. I agree totally with Dbldown but thats just not the way it works, too bad for the longhorns. Texas could sneak in if Okla wins ugly by a few points. The humans in the human polls will have a tough time putting OU above Texas. Its not a slam dunk.

Panic makes the point that OU's defense is allowing 30+ points a game recently. As I said earlier this is one of the main capping keys to the game imo. OU's pass rush is only average. Tech's pass rush is very good. Texas beat OU with basically a good pass rush snuffing out 2nd half critical drives.

But all the X's and O's tend to give way in these huge games to a pumped up home team that has been there before, as in every year. Stoops is a great coach and this is one of the most difficult fields in the country. I'd say the Rose Bowl with USC is the only better home field advantage.

[JoshW]

I don't even need to bet money on this to get up for this game. Should be great, I am pulling for tech.

[guru-t]

I know its a high# but im taking the over!I got it at 76

[yisman]

spread closed at the same Oklahoma -7, by the way.

[The Seer]

This is a great thread. I agree totally with Dbldown but thats just not the way it works, too bad for the longhorns. Texas could sneak in if Okla wins ugly by a few points. The humans in the human polls will have a tough time putting OU above Texas. Its not a slam dunk.

Panic makes the point that OU's defense is allowing 30+ points a game recently. As I said earlier this is one of the main capping keys to the game imo. OU's pass rush is only average. Tech's pass rush is very good. Texas beat OU with basically a good pass rush snuffing out 2nd half critical drives.

But all the X's and O's tend to give way in these huge games to a pumped up home team that has been there before, as in every year. Stoops is a great coach and this is one of the most difficult fields in the country. I'd say the Rose Bowl with USC is the only better home field advantage.

you said it above.

[yisman]

I just think it's funny that JJ thought it was an outrageous line and it closed on the exact same number.

RLM, though. The public was on TT and the sharps were on OU.

[SoonerGreg]

Anyone that looked at these two teams play should have seen this coming.

[Lout84]

I had OU in this one. Didn't expect a huge blowout, but I did think OU would cover comfortably. Now, I bring the question up again.. how high does OU jump in the BCS after this BLOWOUT win? I think they will jump Florida.. and I think they will jump Texas after they beat OSU next week. Oklahoma and Florida in the Nat'l Championship is my prediction.

[apk2k6]

They better not jump Florida.....

Florida has beaten 2 teams in the top 6 at the time. Also, Oklahoma lost to Texas. It should be Alabama, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma.

Gators beat Alabama in the SEC championship and play a Big 12 team for the BCS Title. Depends how Oklahoma plays against Ok. State next week

[yisman]

^ agreed. Florida should have been #2, not Texas Tech.

Florida is the best team in the country. They haven't been getting enough credit.

[SoonerGreg]

They better not jump Florida.....

Florida has beaten 2 teams in the top 6 at the time. Also, Oklahoma lost to Texas. It should be Alabama, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma.

Gators beat Alabama in the SEC championship and play a Big 12 team for the BCS Title. Depends how Oklahoma plays against Ok. State next week

I don't have a problem with you saying they shouldn't jump Florida but your reasoning is flawed. Oklahoma has played a much tougher schedule than Florida. They have already played 4 teams with at least 10 wins and another one next week. Oklahoma did lose to Texas but the Gators lost at home to Ole Miss.
I would rank them 1)Alabama 2)Florida 3)Oklahoma 4)Texas 5)USC.

[yisman]

^ same here