Pacers/raptors Game Note.

onacloud · 10-31-12, 11:09 AM

Jonas Valanciunas will be guarding Roy Hibbert

Pacers can survive without Granger

Justin3587 · 10-31-12, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by onacloud

Jonas Valanciunas will be guarding Roy Hibbert

Pacers can survive without Granger

I took the Raptors.

Luckycharms2012 · 10-31-12, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Justin3587

I took the Raptors.

So did i......lol

And heavy....

Chi_archie · 10-31-12, 11:17 AM

dats big

Steelers3091 · 10-31-12, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Justin3587

Granger is out. bet accordingly.

You must not know who Gerald Green is. He is subbing Granger and did you forget about the rest of the team?

Tofudog · 10-31-12, 11:21 AM

Bargnani was sent home yesterday with flu-like symptoms saying "he just didn't have any bounce" and they will see how he is today and whether he will play. Gerald Green is a decent replacement for Granger too. This is also a chance for him to show his stuff. Wouldn't be surprised to see a highlight reel dunk or two

Justin3587 · 10-31-12, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Steelers3091

You must not know who Gerald Green is. He is subbing Granger and did you forget about the rest of the team?

I know who he is. I don't know who YOU are.

HoulihansTX · 10-31-12, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Tofudog

Bargnani was sent home yesterday with flu-like symptoms saying "he just didn't have any bounce" and they will see how he is today and whether he will play. Gerald Green is a decent replacement for Granger too. This is also a chance for him to show his stuff. Wouldn't be surprised to see a highlight reel dunk or two

Is there a bigger biatch in the NBA?

secueritae · 10-31-12, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Luckycharms2012

So did i......lol

And heavy....

What happened to the Pacers being the

of the century???

teeder · 10-31-12, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Is there a bigger biatch in the NBA?

I knew Bargnani would be on the shelf before the season even started, but I figured it would be his calf injury recurring. I guess he's saving that one for next week. The guy's a waste of height.

Gonz312 · 10-31-12, 12:19 PM

If Green can be anywhere near as productive as he was towards the end of last season...pacers will be fine in this one. It doesnt take much to replace Granger, just grab a guy whos going to take the most ill timed outside jumpers and youve got your guy.

killersweet · 10-31-12, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Is there a bigger biatch in the NBA?

Such a baby. GM’s fault. He coddled the guy for years. </SPAN>

killersweet · 10-31-12, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by onacloud

Jonas Valanciunas will be guarding Roy Hibbert

Pacers can survive without Granger

If Hibbert can get Jonas in to foul trouble, then he can go off. But Jonas is a decent defender for a 'rookie'

benjy · 10-31-12, 12:45 PM

So many new bodies on the Raps it'll likely take them a while to "gel", if they ever do.

I like the Pacers here.

neverstoppers23 · 10-31-12, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by onacloud

Jonas Valanciunas will be guarding Roy Hibbert

Pacers can survive without Granger

I am taking the raptors, line is at 1 now. I would of probably bet the raptors ml if it was bigger, if granger was playing.

neverstoppers23 · 10-31-12, 12:46 PM

Jonas Valanciunas fyi great pick for rookie of the year

mbo4422 · 10-31-12, 01:09 PM

Raptors are good at home. I think they win this straight up. I like how they played in the preseason.

King Swizz · 10-31-12, 02:21 PM

Star Player Rule

Pacers for me

Regul8er · 10-31-12, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by mbo4422

Raptors are good at home. I think they win this straight up. I like how they played in the preseason.

Good at home? When in 2002??

pologq · 10-31-12, 03:17 PM

even without granger i thought this line would be bigger so i think the play is the raptors

neverstoppers23 · 10-31-12, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by King Swizz

Star Player Rule

Pacers for me

um. what?

gdel · 10-31-12, 03:49 PM

Hibbert/West vs Valuncunias/Bargnani

I just think Pacers have to much of an advantage down low for them to lose this game, even with Granger out. Lowry will be the x-factor in this game but I think Hill can handle him.

BigDaddy · 10-31-12, 03:52 PM

it was already reflected in the line

Luckycharms2012 · 10-31-12, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by secueritae

What happened to the Pacers being the

of the century???

I won't lie, i was trying to get the line juiced up for myself so i can bet on the Raptors. I'm from Toronto, i know this team, Raps roll tonight easy.....lol

Luckycharms2012 · 10-31-12, 05:12 PM

Why the Raptors win

1. Lowry- Playing like a top 10 PG, big time defender.
2. Val- Rookie center, LOVES to be physical, loves to grab boards and play D. The kid has a ton of energy will out hustle Hibbert for sure,
Val had Amare and Kurt Thomas ready to fight him because he was so aggressive and energetic with his skinny elbows...lol
3. Fields- Playing well.
4. Depth- Raptors have THREE players in Jose Calderon,Amir Johnson and Klezia who started last year coming off the bench, along with Terrence Ross and Lucas, Alan Anderson and Ed Davis.
5. Coaching- Dwayne Casey has vastly improved the Raptors intensity and D.

I've been watching the Raptors for years and they've always sucked but NOW they finally got some D at the two most important positions, PG and C, and they have a bench now too...they will be a playoff team and they should FOR SURE FOR SURE be able to beat Indiana without Granger at HOME in the ACC. I put $100 on Raptors ML.

You mad bro · 10-31-12, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Luckycharms2012

Why the Raptors win

1. Lowry- Playing like a top 10 PG, big time defender.
2. Val- Rookie center, LOVES to be physical, loves to grab boards and play D. The kid has a ton of energy will out hustle Hibbert for sure,
Val had Amare and Kurt Thomas ready to fight him because he was so aggressive and energetic with his skinny elbows...lol
3. Fields- Playing well.
4. Depth- Raptors have THREE players in Jose Calderon,Amir Johnson and Klezia who started last year coming off the bench, along with Terrence Ross and Lucas, Alan Anderson and Ed Davis.
5. Coaching- Dwayne Casey has vastly improved the Raptors intensity and D.

I've been watching the Raptors for years and they've always sucked but NOW they finally got some D at the two most important positions, PG and C, and they have a bench now too...they will be a playoff team and they should FOR SURE FOR SURE be able to beat Indiana without Granger at HOME in the ACC. I put $100 on Raptors ML.

both teams play some sort of defense in this game ... maybe low scoring? avoiding it

Luckycharms2012 · 10-31-12, 05:19 PM

Raptors are a high scoring team. Raptors are not a good team to take at the half, they start slow but make great 2nd half adjustments and come back for the win. Raps will score more than 90 too many shooters. Even if Andrea gets it rolling, David West won't step out of the paint to D his shot. Raps have a lot of mis-matches and they have the coaching needed to exploit it.

SteelRain · 10-31-12, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Luckycharms2012

I won't lie, i was trying to get the line juiced up for myself so i can bet on the Raptors. I'm from Toronto, i know this team, Raps roll tonight easy.....lol

then you would know the raps are notorious for late 4th Q collapses

You mad bro · 10-31-12, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Luckycharms2012

Raptors are a high scoring team. Raptors are not a good team to take at the half, they start slow but make great 2nd half adjustments and come back for the win. Raps will score more than 90 too many shooters. Even if Andrea gets it rolling, David West won't step out of the paint to D his shot. Raps have a lot of mis-matches and they have the coaching needed to exploit it.

if granger was playing itll be a different story ... without him idk about indy ... no one on the pacers last year averaged 13 pts a game but granger .. not sure

gojetsgomoxies · 10-31-12, 05:21 PM

did grainger being out move this line since the open? or just a big line movement with granger news before that?

mbo4422 · 10-31-12, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Regul8er

Good at home? When in 2002??

sorry meant to say this pre-season. they didn't lose a game at home in the pre-season. I know it is just pre-season but they looked good at home and i think they are going to have a lot of support this season since there is no hockey.

Luckycharms2012 · 10-31-12, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by SteelRain

then you would know the raps are notorious for late 4th Q collapses

The Raptors are notorious for a lot of things but this is a new season with a new PG and C. PG play is very important, Kyle Lowry is miles ahead of jose in both D, play calling, controlling tempo and aggressiveness. Val is a REAL CENTER, Andrea is nowhere near Vals BIG MAN IQ, Val does everything i've wanted to see from our starting 5. For the first time in years i'm watching the Raptors and i feel they have a certain amount of confidence and control over the game i haven't seen since VC was here.. I say this years Raptors team shatters all the trends of years past.

Luckycharms2012 · 10-31-12, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by gojetsgomoxies

did grainger being out move this line since the open? or just a big line movement with granger news before that?

The line moved because of action, since yesterday it was confirmed Granger was out.

Luckycharms2012 · 10-31-12, 05:34 PM

Raptors by 10.

If Pacers struggle its a blowout. Demar has been talking shit saying Raptors get no respect, he said earlier they were fired up looking to make a statement this year, everyone is healthy and they had a good preseason. Raps win.