Good news on Lattimore

Chi_archie · 10-28-12, 04:34 PM

did anyone anywhere report if he had an insurance policy for this kind of thing?

last-1-2-know · 10-28-12, 04:35 PM

if he does it won't be till 2014.....a dislocated knee is so severe that u could lose ur leg....kinda like a compound fracture......i assume the nerve and artery test show little or no damage for spurrier to even b able to say that.....but if there is even minimal nerve damage he is probably done....but even if he is able to come back physically....for a running back he may not be able to mentally over come that traumatic of an injury....we'll c....

The Giant · 10-28-12, 04:36 PM

This is good news?

TheCentaur · 10-28-12, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by last-1-2-know

but even if he is able to come back physically....for a running back he may not be able to mentally over come that traumatic of an injury....we'll c....

Agreed. Would be really hard to hit the hole hard after 2 bad knee injuries

tatommack · 10-28-12, 04:47 PM

i blew out my knee as a kid and i find it unbelievable these guys come back to play and at a high level like wills.

JayHorne3 · 10-28-12, 04:55 PM

Lifelong Gamecock fan here. I was at the game Saturday and this was one of those injuries that at the time looked as if Lattimore would never play football again. The way his leg just flopped around after he rolled over made me think it was an obvious break and seeing the knee on the side made me think about all the possible ligament damage. The entire stadium was somber even after the game because this is one of most favorite Gamecock football players in our history. Kid has done everything the right way. Always about the team, never about himself. Still hate to see the road he has to go through to get back. I know Spurrier said it was a dislocated knee, but I guess we will have to wait and find out the ligament damage before knowing how long it could take for a recovery. So under the circumstances, it is definitely good news.

InTheDrink · 10-28-12, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by last-1-2-know

if he does it won't be till 2014.....a dislocated knee is so severe that u could lose ur leg....kinda like a compound fracture......i assume the nerve and artery test show little or no damage for spurrier to even b able to say that.....but if there is even minimal nerve damage he is probably done....but even if he is able to come back physically....for a running back he may not be able to mentally over come that traumatic of an injury....we'll c....

you have no idea what youre talking about

a dislocated knee is the least harmful of the injuries people thought he could have sustained

i dislocated my knee playing baseball in high school and was back playing two weeks later...wasnt a severe dislocation like lattimore's was but it hardly destroys his knee

the real tell will be when they announce the ligament damage...supposed to come out tonight

tl;dr last 1 2 know is a dumbass

The Giant · 10-28-12, 05:00 PM

I tend to believe InTheDrink when it comes to medical examinations.

He is the head physician of Seaweed Nation.

last-1-2-know · 10-28-12, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

you have no idea what youre talking about

a dislocated knee is the least harmful of the injuries people thought he could have sustained

i dislocated my knee playing baseball in high school and was back playing two weeks later...wasnt a severe dislocation like lattimore's was but it hardly destroys his knee

the real tell will be when they announce the ligament damage...supposed to come out tonight

tl;dr last 1 2 know is a dumbass

actually, I'm not a Dr....and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night....but there is this thing called Google....and I can read....I don't know what kind of injury u had playing baseball....I would guess u may have had a dislocated kneeCAP....but even that injury can end ur season....but ur saying a dislocated knee is the least harmful injury???? LOL...wow...I mean...that is the stupidest thing I think I ever heard anyone say.....IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISLOCATE UR KNEE WITHOUT MAJOR LIGAMENT DAMAGE....it's more then just 1 or 2 ligaments being torn......u may be a PRO on SBR, but ur ignorance on being able to use the internet to research is a colossal indictment on ur true ignorance.... oh, and here are the links I referenced to form my opinion....

Dislocated Knee: Treatment, Recovery Time, Symptoms, Causes & Surgery

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/knee_dislocation/article_em.htm

A dislocated knee occurs when the bones that form your knee are out of place. Symptoms of a dislocated knee are severe pain in the knee, and sometimes no feeling below the knee. X-rays and other exams and tests diagnose a dislocated knee. A dislocated knee needs medical treatment depending on the injury, like relocation to pop the knee back in place or other procedures. Pain and swelling can be treated at home.

http://www.bachmd.com/Files/Kneedislocations.pdf

Seaweed · 10-28-12, 05:14 PM

Powderguy · 10-28-12, 05:14 PM

He won't ever be the same

mynameismud · 10-28-12, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Powderguy

He won't ever be the same

i concur. sad but true.

last-1-2-know · 10-28-12, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

did anyone anywhere report if he had an insurance policy for this kind of thing?

Most if not all college FB players that are projected to be in the draft obtain career ending type insurance....that is normal....given he has already sustained a major injury last year he most def. got that insurance....and it's not just if u can't play again....it is also against possible lost income due to a drop in draft status......i.e. Willis Mcgahee...I believe he was able to collect 2 mill. even though he got drafted and is still playing.....

theAkathist · 10-28-12, 05:25 PM

if he does ever play a down in the nfl draft he went from a 1st rnd pick to 7th

also scar rule doesnt allow insurance policy (for non-amateur gain, nfl)

TheCentaur · 10-28-12, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by last-1-2-know

Most if not all college FB players that are projected to be in the draft obtain career ending type insurance....that is normal....given he has already sustained a major injury last year he most def. got that insurance....and it's not just if u can't play again....it is also against possible lost income due to a drop in draft status......i.e. Willis Mcgahee...I believe he was able to collect 2 mill. even though he got drafted and is still playing.....

Interesting. Who pays the insurance? Can't be the family. The school? Is it paid once a contract is signed? Seems really risky for the insurance company especially with an LSU player

Chi_archie · 10-28-12, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by last-1-2-know

Most if not all college FB players that are projected to be in the draft obtain career ending type insurance....that is normal....given he has already sustained a major injury last year he most def. got that insurance....and it's not just if u can't play again....it is also against possible lost income due to a drop in draft status......i.e. Willis Mcgahee...I believe he was able to collect 2 mill. even though he got drafted and is still playing.....

no I think willis had to forgo collecting on it if he wanted to make a comeback and enter the draft

last-1-2-know · 10-28-12, 05:36 PM

hummmm

last-1-2-know · 10-28-12, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by last-1-2-know

Interesting. Who pays the insurance? Can't be the family. The school? Is it paid once a contract is signed? Seems really risky for the insurance company especially with an LSU player

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taken from....http://www.piu.org/disability-plans/...nsurance-plans

ur welcome....

InTheDrink · 10-28-12, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by last-1-2-know

actually, I'm not a Dr....and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night....but there is this thing called Google....and I can read....I don't know what kind of injury u had playing baseball....I would guess u may have had a dislocated kneeCAP....but even that injury can end ur season....but ur saying a dislocated knee is the least harmful injury???? LOL...wow...I mean...that is the stupidest thing I think I ever heard anyone say.....IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISLOCATE UR KNEE WITHOUT MAJOR LIGAMENT DAMAGE....it's more then just 1 or 2 ligaments being torn......u may be a PRO on SBR, but ur ignorance on being able to use the internet to research is a colossal indictment on ur true ignorance.... oh, and here are the links I referenced to form my opinion....

Dislocated Knee: Treatment, Recovery Time, Symptoms, Causes & Surgery

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/knee_dislocation/article_em.htm

A dislocated knee occurs when the bones that form your knee are out of place. Symptoms of a dislocated knee are severe pain in the knee, and sometimes no feeling below the knee. X-rays and other exams and tests diagnose a dislocated knee. A dislocated knee needs medical treatment depending on the injury, like relocation to pop the knee back in place or other procedures. Pain and swelling can be treated at home.

http://www.bachmd.com/Files/Kneedislocations.pdf

let's think about what the alternatives were dipshit

did you think he skinned his knee?

the options that have been bandied about were compound fracture and tearing his knee to shreds....in fact if your head wasn't busy being stuck in your ass you'd have heard some people wondering if he would walk without a limp again

yes it's least harmful of the possibilities, hence this is great news

and i suppose the fact that his head coach said he'll play again is lost on you

Chi_archie · 10-28-12, 06:01 PM

In the early part of the fourth quarter during the 2003 Fiesta Bowl National Championship Game, McGahee suffered an injury after catching a screen pass from Dorsey. He was immediately hit by Buckeye safety Will Allen, bending his left knee backwards and causing tears of the ACL, PCL, and MCL. Prior to getting hurt, he had rushed for 67 yards and a touchdown, as Miami would lose the game in double-overtime, 31–24. This injury required several surgeries and extensive rehabilitation before he would be able to play again. At the season's end, McGahee announced he would not collect on a $2.5 million insurance policy he had taken out before the Championship game, and therefore would enter the 2003 NFL Draft.

InTheDrink · 10-28-12, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

In the early part of the fourth quarter during the 2003 Fiesta Bowl National Championship Game, McGahee suffered an injury after catching a screen pass from Dorsey. He was immediately hit by Buckeye safety Will Allen, bending his left knee backwards and causing tears of the ACL, PCL, and MCL. Prior to getting hurt, he had rushed for 67 yards and a touchdown, as Miami would lose the game in double-overtime, 31–24. This injury required several surgeries and extensive rehabilitation before he would be able to play again. At the season's end, McGahee announced he would not collect on a $2.5 million insurance policy he had taken out before the Championship game, and therefore would enter the 2003 NFL Draft.

i wonder if there was a small window of time to collect and had he collected i assume he'd have had to pay it back...so why not just grab it when you can? i guess he was making a statement to say he definitely was going to make it back by doing so...

last-1-2-know · 10-28-12, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by last-1-2-know

if he does it won't be till 2014.....a dislocated knee is so severe that u could lose ur leg....kinda like a compound fracture......i assume the nerve and artery test show little or no damage for spurrier to even b able to say that.....but if there is even minimal nerve damage he is probably done....but even if he is able to come back physically....for a running back he may not be able to mentally over come that traumatic of an injury....we'll c....

Originally posted by InTheDrink

you have no idea what youre talking about

a dislocated knee is the least harmful of the injuries people thought he could have sustained

i dislocated my knee playing baseball in high school and was back playing two weeks later...wasnt a severe dislocation like lattimore's was but it hardly destroys his knee

the real tell will be when they announce the ligament damage...supposed to come out tonight

tl;dr last 1 2 know is a dumbass

Originally posted by InTheDrink

let's think about what the alternatives were dipshit

did you think he skinned his knee?

the options that have been bandied about were compound fracture and tearing his knee to shreds....in fact if your head wasn't busy being stuck in your ass you'd have heard some people wondering if he would walk without a limp again

yes it's least harmful of the possibilities, hence this is great news

and i suppose the fact that his head coach said he'll play again is lost on you

OK...I included the total of our back and forth....U have resulted to name calling which is unnecessary...what's wrong....u mad bro? Or are u just an angry person...I don't know U but like I said earlier....the more u post the more ignorant u sound....if u follow our dialogue and READ all that was posted....ur last comment of " did you think he skinned his knee?" doesn't make any sense....

1st....in my first post I was explaining how a dislocated knee ISN'T a minor injury and he is lucky cause that injury is so severe sometime amputation is required...and permanent nerve damage is also likely possible....and yes if he is able to physically play again (which i think is a premature assumption) he might not be able to overcome the mental aspect of his injury.....

that's when u busted in with ur ignorant statement of a dislocated knee IS NOT that major of an injury....
I think ur exact words were "a dislocated knee is the least harmful of the injuries people thought he could have sustained"
then u went on to say how u dislocated ur knee in HS...but was able to play soon there after....which is so outrageous it's laughable, but really sad...

Then I respond to ur ignorance with medical insight and even list sorces (for ur enlightenment)....now ur trying to flip it on me that I am minimizing this injury.....wow.

U said...."...the options that have been bandied about were compound fracture and tearing his knee to shreds...." EXACTLY.....those two options are EQUALLY SEVERE....compound fracture.....AND...."tearing his knee to shreads" which is aka...KNEE DISLOCATION!!!! Like I said it is impossible to have a knee dislocation w/o 3-4 ligaments being shreaded...

So, IT IS NOT the least harmful of the possible injuries he could have had(like the compound fracture he could have lost his leg with this injury due to artery damage if medical attention wasn't immediately ava.)....it is 1 of the 2 possible worst injuries he could have had.....

THE GOOD NEWS SPURRIER WAS TALKING ABOUT WASN'T RELATED TO WHICH INJURY HE HAD......it had to due with the initial prognosis that he SHOULD be able to play football again....which I agreed that IF he is able to play football again that is GREAT NEWS (if he can overcome the mental aspects of recovery)......BUT I will say that I think the initial prognosis is MAYBE a little premature and obviously isn't conclusive....only time will tell AFTER multiple surgeries it there is lasting nerve damage....which if there is..that is where he will walk with a limp or have minimal function....only time will tell....I pray he has full recovery.

last-1-2-know · 10-28-12, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

In the early part of the fourth quarter during the 2003 Fiesta Bowl National Championship Game, McGahee suffered an injury after catching a screen pass from Dorsey. He was immediately hit by Buckeye safety Will Allen, bending his left knee backwards and causing tears of the ACL, PCL, and MCL. Prior to getting hurt, he had rushed for 67 yards and a touchdown, as Miami would lose the game in double-overtime, 31–24. This injury required several surgeries and extensive rehabilitation before he would be able to play again. At the season's end, McGahee announced he would not collect on a $2.5 million insurance policy he had taken out before the Championship game, and therefore would enter the 2003 NFL Draft.

yea, read that too...I must have gotten him confused with someone else...I swear I heard someone collecting despite entering the NFL....anyway, I think it all depends what is written into the policy....some may have that attachment and some may not....

Ernie Mccracken · 10-28-12, 06:50 PM

Joint injuries are brutal and stay with you forever. That's the truth that no one really wants to admit. Some come back better than others, and some guys are good enough at to play at 75% of what they used to be, but that injury is for life.

dice · 10-28-12, 07:02 PM

My prayers are with Lattimore on a quick recovery. He is one heck of a running back. Was it Willis McGahee or Frank Gore who had a similar injury while in college? Both succeeded in the NFL.

Chi_archie · 10-28-12, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

i wonder if there was a small window of time to collect and had he collected i assume he'd have had to pay it back...so why not just grab it when you can? i guess he was making a statement to say he definitely was going to make it back by doing so...

I think the insurance policy was crafted in a way to say that he had an injury which prevented him from playing and being drafted.

so he either had to settle for 2.5 and not enter the draft or work his ass off and enter the draft.

he made the right choice...

last-1-2-know · 10-28-12, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by dice

My prayers are with Lattimore on a quick recovery. He is one heck of a running back. Was it Willis McGahee or Frank Gore who had a similar injury while in college? Both succeeded in the NFL.

It was Mcgahee with the serious knee injury in the championship game against Ohio St......but Gore did have 2 ACL injury on different legs...and he is doing great....but what Lattimore had is way worst then Gore and even Mcgahee.....so, I'm sure many prayers are with him.

eastern2 · 10-28-12, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by dice

My prayers are with Lattimore on a quick recovery. He is one heck of a running back. Was it Willis McGahee or Frank Gore who had a similar injury while in college? Both succeeded in the NFL.

Gore had a bad one too but it's willis that got jacked up like latt did

theAkathist · 10-28-12, 09:12 PM

lattimor is finished he has a piece of spaghetti for a right leg and its spurriers fault for calling the wrong play

GWOZOZO · 10-28-12, 09:21 PM

Latt's injury looked worst than Willi's. I hope he makes it back. Must hurt more spiritually. He did everything he had to do after the first injury, only to suffer a worst injury this season. I hope he's the kind of guy to whom football isn't the end all be all. Then he can focus on moving on without football

crustyme · 10-28-12, 09:29 PM

reminded me of this......

GWOZOZO · 10-28-12, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by crustyme

reminded me of this......

omfg!

Jimmy0607 · 10-28-12, 10:34 PM

Cadillac Williams blew both of his knees and came back , hopefully Lattimore can do the same

Hotdiggity11 · 10-28-12, 10:40 PM

Yup, it's great that he can come back or most people who go through this are never the same [Don't take the exception as the rule]. He definitely lost any chance of being a 1st or 2nd rounder.