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  • bettilimbroke999
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-04-08
    • 13254

    #1
    Taking a much needed break from gambling
    Tired of betting coinflips and paying 10% extra when I lose on top of $50+ whenever I want to withdrawal. The only winners in sports gambling are those betting 50 bucks a game, they get all the entertainment of having money on the game with none of the stress of potentially losing big and ultimately they wind up at about the same place of right around dead even

    I've lost 3k in the last 3 weeks and it's just been retarded betting big and trying to guess whether a team will play well or badly on a particular game, truth is the spread generates a virtually coinflip situation except we get clipped for 10% more when we lose than we get paid when we win, pretty shitty deal
  • Nicky Santoro
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-08-08
    • 16103

    #2
    bettor, i am proud of you buddy. nothing wrong with a break.. your post was smack on.. it really is a coin flip and if you are just betting games based on your opinion and you are betting the general line.. AND... you are laying -110.. then bettor, i have one thing to say to you buddy, don't make this a break.. trust me man, make this a permanent break.. bettor, no bettor here who plays like this has any chance at all.. NOT A PRAYER.. you have a better chance at winning the power ball lottery than being an overall winner lifetime in gambling.. it's just not going to happen man.. it is IMPOSSIBLE to overcome these odds long term.

    i am going to be making a vid maybe this weekend on how to quit gambling for life while still having the gambling drug..it has worked with about 85% of my buddies that have tried it.. 3 have quit for life.. 8 have quit for 6 months to 3 yrs and 2 never stopped.. so it can be done.. you'll see...
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    • Deuce
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 01-12-08
      • 29843

      #3
      I give him a week. It's equivalent to heroine.
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      • bettilimbroke999
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-04-08
        • 13254

        #4
        Thanks Nicky I appreciate it, I really feel like a fukin idiot right now b/c I got 3k missing from my checking account and all I've got to show for it is 3 weeks of migraines, this isnt like heroin Deuce b/c at least heroin makes you feel good while you're blowin all your cash, betting big on NYG versus the Browns then losin by 30 points just makes you want to slam your head against the wall, you can chase the high of winning with 50 dollar bets, no need to put yourself through hell by betting big on -110 coinflips
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        • Deuce
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 01-12-08
          • 29843

          #5
          Venditto will tell you how it is pal. He is down 30k.
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          • Masu485
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-14-08
            • 7700

            #6
            teasers teasers teasers! the lines are so sharp, so so sharp. taking a teaser is the ONLY way to go, especially with NFL, BECASUE the lines are so sharp.

            for example: you made money whether you teased the cards with the over, the 49ers with the under, cards with the under, and 49ers with the over. all possibilities gave you the win if you played a 7pt teaser.

            teasers work wonders in NFL. at least this season i've noticed.
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            • Masu485
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-14-08
              • 7700

              #7
              wise to take a break, maybe start off on the new year? but first gather some funds, and find a book with reduced juice please! no one should be betting at -110
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              • donjuan
                SBR MVP
                • 08-29-07
                • 3993

                #8
                teasers teasers teasers! the lines are so sharp, so so sharp. taking a teaser is the ONLY way to go, especially with NFL, BECASUE the lines are so sharp.

                for example: you made money whether you teased the cards with the over, the 49ers with the under, cards with the under, and 49ers with the over. all possibilities gave you the win if you played a 7pt teaser.

                teasers work wonders in NFL. at least this season i've noticed.
                This is kinda funny because certain subsets are great for NFL teasers, except those subsets have run incredibly cold this year. If you're betting +EV teasers, you are almost certainly down for the year so far on NFL teasers.

                wise to take a break, maybe start off on the new year? but first gather some funds, and find a book with reduced juice please! no one should be betting at -110
                If I can get +4 -110 and Pinnacle has +3 -105, which would you prefer?
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                • Nicky Santoro
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-08-08
                  • 16103

                  #9
                  Originally posted by donjuan
                  This is kinda funny because certain subsets are great for NFL teasers, except those subsets have run incredibly cold this year. If you're betting +EV teasers, you are almost certainly down for the year so far on NFL teasers.



                  If I can get +4 -110 and Pinnacle has +3 -105, which would you prefer?
                  donny, why do you have to be a smart ass for and show up the kid?? you know what he means when he says not to play at a -110 book.. how often are you going to see in NFL a +3 -05 vs a +4 -10??? come on man...
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                  • pat venditto
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-07-07
                    • 14347

                    #10
                    donjuan teach me how to win in the sports betting market.
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                    • donjuan
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-29-07
                      • 3993

                      #11
                      donny, why do you have to be a smart ass for and show up the kid?? you know what he means when he says not to play at a -110 book.. how often are you going to see in NFL a +3 -05 vs a +4 -10??? come on man...
                      Ever had an account at SIA?
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                      • donjuan
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-29-07
                        • 3993

                        #12
                        Pat,

                        What would you like to know?
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                        • pat venditto
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-07-07
                          • 14347

                          #13
                          Teach me the ways. When to bet? How much to bet?Why am I always barreled in?
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                          • donjuan
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-29-07
                            • 3993

                            #14
                            When to bet: when you have an edge.

                            How much to bet: Kelly criterion.

                            Why you're always barreled in: no idea.

                            Check out a few of Ganchrow's posts on Kelly, watch and make sure you understand the concepts in Justin's videos and you'll be off to a good start. And of course line shopping is extremely important.
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                            • gm2022
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-28-08
                              • 4128

                              #15
                              Good to hear bettilimbroke999 I took a break 3 weeks ago for 5 days and it has helped me out a bunch. Taking a good week break here and there always helps! GL see ya soon
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                              • bettilimbroke999
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-04-08
                                • 13254

                                #16
                                Originally posted by gm2022
                                Good to hear bettilimbroke999 I took a break 3 weeks ago for 5 days and it has helped me out a bunch. Taking a good week break here and there always helps! GL see ya soon
                                Thanks man appreciate it, I hope you guys hit every bet you make but just remember to practice good MM so an unlucky cold streak doesn't cremate your bankroll, keep this shit fun and entertaining and you will enjoy the game win or lose
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                                • crisp
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-02-08
                                  • 1377

                                  #17
                                  i've noticed that when i bet big my bets tend to lose and when i bet small i hit like 70% or something crazy like that.
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    Mikey stick to betting $50 a game and have fun

                                    Mikey I have lost houses, sold my great body, lost my magnavox tv which I love, lost my xbox and play station, lost most of grandma's inheritance and my stamp collection because of gambling.

                                    I thought I was outsmarting the linesman and was wrong. Mikey I am still betting trying new things all the time and trying to beat -110. I know it is almost impossible but still trying.

                                    Never look at stats, I do so much better betting on feel.
                                    '
                                    Good Luck Pal
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                                    • bigugly
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-04-08
                                      • 1329

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by donjuan
                                      When to bet: when you have an edge.

                                      How much to bet: Kelly criterion.

                                      Why you're always barreled in: no idea.

                                      Check out a few of Ganchrow's posts on Kelly, watch and make sure you understand the concepts in Justin's videos and you'll be off to a good start. And of course line shopping is extremely important.
                                      Would you EVER recommend betting half kelly?
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                                      • rynop123
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-02-07
                                        • 443

                                        #20
                                        Why doesn't everyone just bet the opposite of what you think...Come out a winner in the long run...

                                        Sounds stupid but has worked for me for the last year....Crazy Stuff
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                                        • Nicky Santoro
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-08-08
                                          • 16103

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by rynop123
                                          Why doesn't everyone just bet the opposite of what you think...Come out a winner in the long run...

                                          Sounds stupid but has worked for me for the last year....Crazy Stuff
                                          it wouldn't work.. they'd still lose. it's not that he can't pick games, it's the -110.. so whether anyone fades him and then this guy still hits 50% or even 49%, they would all still lose..

                                          it's not that he can't pick the games, it's the -110 that kills every player.
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                                          • rynop123
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-02-07
                                            • 443

                                            #22
                                            I assume

                                            I guess the only way to fix that problem is betting with friends and not getting screwed on the juice
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                                            • fiveteamer
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 04-14-08
                                              • 10805

                                              #23
                                              sports gamblers complain about juice, try betting horses, they take on avg 25% away on every bet. Impossible to beat that.
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                                              • ZBOIZ
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-22-08
                                                • 21464

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                Tired of betting coinflips and paying 10% extra when I lose on top of $50+ whenever I want to withdrawal. The only winners in sports gambling are those betting 50 bucks a game, they get all the entertainment of having money on the game with none of the stress of potentially losing big and ultimately they wind up at about the same place of right around dead even

                                                I've lost 3k in the last 3 weeks and it's just been retarded betting big and trying to guess whether a team will play well or badly on a particular game, truth is the spread generates a virtually coinflip situation except we get clipped for 10% more when we lose than we get paid when we win, pretty shitty deal
                                                I have two games for you tonight my friend!!!

                                                Take the Over in the LAKERS AND DALLAS GAME!!

                                                And take Duke -23
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                                                • Nicky Santoro
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-08-08
                                                  • 16103

                                                  #25
                                                  ryan, that is a great way to do it, but just be prepared to lose your friends..i've made tons of enemies from this and it is only natural when you mix betting money and friends.

                                                  fiver buddy, i know.. and people will still say that they can make money in horses..lol.. fiver,i have yet to meet a long term winner in horses. and i know lots of friends here in montreal that play horses only. and they are all broke today..
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                                                  • bettilimbroke999
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-04-08
                                                    • 13254

                                                    #26
                                                    At -110 you need to hit around 53% just to break even in the long-run, that sucks, the only option is to play at matchbook where 51% (avg line of -101 and 2% comm on winnings) will break you even, the prob is the spread is designed to create a coinflip situation, so you're basically either winning or losing on luck, I've been red hot picking nothing but winners and ice cold picking nothing but losers b/c ultimately you don't know how a team is going to play during a particular game, they could play better or worse than avg, could have better or worse breaks than the other team, big penalties in their favor or against them, there are too many variables to determine one particular game. I've won the last 3 yrs in NFL by picking around 57% winners, this year the numbers are balancing out and I'm picking around 30% winners, in the long-run you can't beat the spread a high enough percentage of the time to overcome the vig and get any real return on your investment, so why bet big, simply bet 50 bucks a game and get the fun of gambling and you can enjoy your bet win or lose without the stress of losing big money, since you're probably going to lose money and at best if you're lucky make only a very small percentage profit why would anyone ever bet big?
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                                                    • fiveteamer
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-14-08
                                                      • 10805

                                                      #27
                                                      Nicky, there are some whales who get MASSIVE rebates who make money on horses, that is the only way.

                                                      Guys like me just burn up their bankroll.

                                                      Like jj says, horses are a donation.

                                                      Why do I play? Because it is fun, I have been going to the track since I was a little boy with my father, I can't give it up, so it is a recreational activity for me.
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                                                      • bettilimbroke999
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-04-08
                                                        • 13254

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                        sports gamblers complain about juice, try betting horses, they take on avg 25% away on every bet. Impossible to beat that.
                                                        Agreed, I put horse racing/dog racing on par with the slots, virtually zero chance to win in the long-run
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                                                        • bettilimbroke999
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-04-08
                                                          • 13254

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                          I have two games for you tonight my friend!!!

                                                          Take the Over in the LAKERS AND DALLAS GAME!!

                                                          And take Duke -23
                                                          Sounds like good plays but unfortunately I finished burning my account balances last night on MNF (took Cards - 6 1/2 1st half and first play of the game was a kickoff TD by SF, one of worst teams in the league), then after seeing the incredibly high scoring 1st half I took over 23 1/2 2nd half and they had the ball 1st and goal on the 3 in 4 down territory and couldn't score which finished the emptying of my matchbook account
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                                                          • Kargo
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 10-29-08
                                                            • 126

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                            Tired of betting coinflips and paying 10% extra when I lose on top of $50+ whenever I want to withdrawal. The only winners in sports gambling are those betting 50 bucks a game, they get all the entertainment of having money on the game with none of the stress of potentially losing big and ultimately they wind up at about the same place of right around dead even

                                                            I've lost 3k in the last 3 weeks and it's just been retarded betting big and trying to guess whether a team will play well or badly on a particular game, truth is the spread generates a virtually coinflip situation except we get clipped for 10% more when we lose than we get paid when we win, pretty shitty deal
                                                            Nothing wrong with taking a break, but like you say, the $50 game bettors are the ones who get the fun, so why go for the $1k a week ? All you have to do is make a budget for gambling that will not give you migranes if you lose it and most imortant, respect it, never go over it !
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